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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: eliyahu on May 22, 2015, 02:09:04 AM
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news from A-EON via facebook (https://www.facebook.com/AEonTechnologyLtd):
A-EON Technology acquires Ringhio Messaging System
Cardiff, 21st May 2015
As part of our strategic alliance with ACube srl we are pleased to announce that we have purchased the exclusive rights to the Ringhio messaging system from its developer Max 'm3x' Tretene.
As part of the agreement Max has granted A-EON Technology a worldwide, exclusive, perpetual and irrevocable licenses to develop, publish and distribute Ringhio for the Classic and Next-Generation Amiga operating systems. Also included in the agreement is the exclusive ownership to all source code and binaries and the right to use the Ringhio name in all product marketing, promotion and branding of the Classic AmigaOS and Next-generation AmigaOS versions.
Ringhio is the advanced system wide messaging and notification system developed by Max for AmigaOS 4.1. Ringhio, which has has been in development since 2009, is Italian word for “growl” and in many ways it is similar to the OS X application of the same name. With the Ringhio server running, registered applications can inform the user via notifications displayed in a small pop-up box on the Workbench that a particular event has occurred.
These are sometimes called Ringhio messages because the server provides means through which the messages are communicated visually (in other words, Ringhio handles the actual display of messages sent by the Application Library).
The Ringhio message window is very similar to an info requester, only it does not require user interaction. The message is displayed for a short while then disappears. The short-lived pop-up notification window is displayed on the Workbench informing the user, for example, that an e-mail was received, a new tune was loaded for playback in TuneNet, or a program is being installed by AMIstore.
A-EON Technology has commissioned Max to create a new AmigaOS 4.1 version to add new capabilities and features. Plans for a Classic AmigaOS version are also in the works. On finalising the agreement with A-EON Technology, Max said, “I am very excited to work with A-EON for the benefit of AmigaOS software enhancements and securing Ringhio's future development". Matthew Leaman added, “It is a pleasure to work with Max, who is a long established, experienced and respected Amiga developer. We are looking forward to the progressive new features that Ringhio will offer for all of A-EON's software catalogue”.
note: the full press release is available here (http://www.a-eon.com/PDF/News_Release_Ringhio.pdf).
-- eliyahu
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that sounds pretty cool.
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Looking forward fo the 68k version. Sounds good.
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Looking forward fo the 68k version. Sounds good.
and whats that good for? im must say i hate these annoying popups, while im doing something im not in mood to be interrupted with. most they carry with is advertising content, or whatever is not particularly essential...
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Maybe it can be a programmable inter-process notification system to compliment IP communication?
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and whats that good for? im must say i hate these annoying popups, while im doing something im not in mood to be interrupted with. most they carry with is advertising content, or whatever is not particularly essential...
Well, on the contrary, I would love to have pop up notifications when:
-An antivirus ends its scanning or finds virii
-The tcp-ip stack gets online and is ready to be used
-One of my disks is almost full
-cd/dvd burning is complete
-An application crashes
-A rendering is complete
But then, if you are just not used to multitask under AmigaOS, you wont probably apreciate this.
Anyway, it is your choice.
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This is a good thing to have a standard event driven notification system. Hopefully this could be standardised across all Amiga NG os
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Well, on the contrary, I would love to have pop up notifications when:
-An antivirus ends its scanning or finds virii
-The tcp-ip stack gets online and is ready to be used
-One of my disks is almost full
-cd/dvd burning is complete
-An application crashes
-A rendering is complete
But then, if you are just not used to multitask under AmigaOS, you wont probably apreciate this.
Anyway, it is your choice.
im used to multitask on any computer i have but i prefer not to have popup messages while i lets say am playing an online game or watching video. anyway im not convinced by your example use cases, there is no virus on amiga worth to have scanner running in the background, the tcp stack is fine when run once and its gui application is enough to tell me if it is online or not. i dont need notification for it. same for cd burning, whoever still does that in the usb stick era, an application is enough to handle it. what concerns app crashing, amiga has guru mediation or third party systems to to take care of this, like smart crash. and i prefer to check if my render is complete after im finished with other tasks.
honestly, maybe notification can have some advantages for complex systems like windows or linux, but average amiga user would probably consider it a part of what he calls "bloat". and i might agree here.
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@wawrzon
You're not being forced to use it. Even if it was on your system you can turn it off in the prefs or delete the whole lot.
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@wawrzon
You're not being forced to use it. Even if it was on your system you can turn it off in the prefs or delete the whole lot.
even simpler solution is just skip on it all together. right.
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It sounds like it would be useful to people who are online a lot. Others would have zero use for it.
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Nice move :)
As I worte in the other thread, some people just want to complain. :p
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Nice move :)
As I worte in the other thread, some people just want to complain. :p
im not holding you back. you may go and buy a system that pops up requesters on your computer if you want. fine. its a free world;)
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im not holding you back. you may go and buy a system that pops up requesters on your computer if you want. fine. its a free world;)
The important subtlety if RingHio notifications is that they are *not* requesters, they require no interaction, if you ignore them they go away. The most useful case I have for them is notification of emails arriving in YAM.
Second most useful is completion of a project compileing.
You can however click on them and be taken straght to the app that was notifying you.
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and whats that good for? im must say i hate these annoying popups, while im doing something im not in mood to be interrupted with. most they carry with is advertising content, or whatever is not particularly essential...
I'm also not a fan, especially where they're abused (avast antivirus, adobe reader, system update notifications every time you logon...)
Thankfully Adobe doesn't support Amigalikes, we don't use antivirus etc.
Stripped of the abuse, and offered in a user configurable way (as you'd expect with Amiga software), I've actually come to like Magicbeacon (the MorphOS equivalent notification system by Geit), despite my initial misgivings about whether I wanted or had use for it.
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Why is this not part of the OS?
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even simpler solution is just skip on it all together. right.
I think you'll find my post does cover that option already.
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Why is this not part of the OS?
Because then you may not have an easy way to turn it off. lol.
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I'm also not a fan, especially where they're abused (avast antivirus, adobe reader, system update notifications every time you logon...)
With Ringhio you can disable notifications on a per-application basis, so if something is spamming you it's easy to stop it.
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With Ringhio you can disable notifications on a per-application basis, so if something is spamming you it's easy to stop it.
That's good to hear (although i'd personally like the option of whitelisting - ban all except as specified).
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I suppose that they need the Application.library then which AFAIK is not available for Amiga.
I wonder how many part of the AmigaOS 4.x is own by individuals.
Kamelito
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The security system for my office uses several dozen IP cameras, a server to run the application, and a NAS for storage. It uses those type of "no user interaction required" pop-up notifications to alert "camera such-and-such has detected motion". For me as the IT guy, it's annoying as heck whenever I need to go on there to configure something. However if we paid a guy to sit there and monitor those all day long, I can see where they'd be very helpful. So, good luck with the software! :)
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Why is this not part of the OS?
Ringhio has always been part of OS4 (since OS4.1 update 1, according to Wikipedia).
Varthall