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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 05, 2015, 07:33:55 AM
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Installation of AmigaOS Workbench 3.9, web tools, and Boing Bags 1-4.
This was good practice. I was really tired when I made these videos and made some really dumb noob mistakes, like forgetting to check "bootable" when I prepped my new CF card. Also I ramble *a lot*. I should probably reshoot this without so much screwing around. Oh well, grab a cup of coffee of three (or five), and enjoy! ;)
Part 1:
http://youtu.be/SCMw8bStvG4
Part 2:
http://youtu.be/ufCuW--Q2nA
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Seriously, I ramble a lot. If I ever make any more videos like this, I'll at least pause recording every time the machine is rebooting, or copying a lot of files, so I don't feel like I have to talk through all that sh*t, haha. :lol:
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Seriously, I ramble a lot. If I ever make any more videos like this, I'll at least pause recording every time the machine is rebooting, or copying a lot of files, so I don't feel like I have to talk through all that sh*t, haha. :lol:
Was an interesting watch Mike! Nice set-up too.
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Cool vidoes Mike. I like your desk/bench as well. Wish I had the room for something like that. What's with all those monitors, spares?
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Seriously, I ramble a lot. If I ever make any more videos like this, I'll at least pause recording every time the machine is rebooting, or copying a lot of files, so I don't feel like I have to talk through all that sh*t, haha. :lol:
You could always cut the reboots out add the audio aftewards. You could type up a script so you can edit down the number of words and make it more concise.
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You could always cut the reboots out add the audio aftewards. You could type up a script so you can edit down the number of words and make it more concise.
That's an excellent idea! Obviously I was kind of "winging it". ;)
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Cool vidoes Mike. I like your desk/bench as well. Wish I had the room for something like that. What's with all those monitors, spares?
Thanks! Yes, I run the IT department for my company, you never know when you're going to need spare parts. The way people like to break things around here... Aaah! :p
Edit: added a few pictures of our typical workstation setups for your amusement. ;)
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That's an excellent idea! Obviously I was kind of "winging it". ;)
Probably wouldn't have thought of it myself without reading your self review.
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Edit: added a few pictures of our typical workstation setups for your amusement. ;)
Nice! Now I see why you had so many monitors ;)
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Nice vids Mike! I keep wondering how in the world I'll be able to create that Emergency Boot Disk when I go to install OS3.9 with my Blizzz 060 on an IDE Buddha Flash card with a clean CF card! :confused:
BTW, when do you sleep?
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Nice vids Mike! I keep wondering how in the world I'll be able to create that Emergency Boot Disk when I go to install OS3.9 with my Blizzz 060 on an IDE Buddha Flash card with a clean CF card! :confused:
BTW, when do you sleep? :angry:
Does the Buddha auto-detect? Can HDToolbox see it without running any additional patches or drivers? You may need to put them on the disk, if it does.
The first Emergency Boot Disk I created was on a plain system just running a fresh install of 3.1, and it worked fine. Of course I couldn't find that disk last night (probably formatted something else over it a while ago), so I made the new one. I thought it was interesting (and kind of neat) that it copied the rtg.library and Spectrum settings directly from my live system, but should work fine without that (probably just default to a standard ECS screenmode). So any Amiga with a CD drive should be able to create the disk.
But yeah. That seems the best way. Pop a blank CF in, put the Emergency Boot Disk in your floppy drive, the OS 3.9 CD in your CD drive, boot off the floppy, run HDToolbox off the floppy, reboot, then format the new partitions and run the installer on the CD. No dumb mistakes like having the wrong CD in the drive or pressing the eject button at the wrong time like I did, lol. ;)
And last night I slept between 4am and 9am, then came back to work. FML! :(
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Does the Buddha auto-detect? Can HDToolbox see it without running any additional patches or drivers? You may need to put them on the disk, if it does.
Yea, that's the part I'm not sure of...
The first Emergency Boot Disk I created was on a plain system just running a fresh install of 3.1, and it worked fine.
Cool, I should be able to manage that from myA1200 then!
I thought it was interesting (and kind of neat) that it copied the rtg.library and Spectrum settings directly from my live system.
I noticed you were surprised by that! :)
And last night I slept between 4am and 9am, then came back to work. FML! :(
NEED SLEEPY!
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Yea, that's the part I'm not sure of...
I did a search for this and came up with various info:
"The buddha can use either scsi.device as standard in AmigaOS or the Atapi.device"
"try to add this tooltype in HDToolbox icon ASKDEVICE"
"It should be scsi.device or 2nd.scsi.device or 3rd.scsi.device or buddha_scsi.device or buddha_ide.device or whatever but not buddha_atapi.device."
I would just try it and see. If it uses scsi.device you should be fine. HDToolbox can detect a lot of different devices. Heck, it can even read USB devices plugged in through my RapidRoad (although I suspect it's only able to do this because I have Poseidon installed ;) )
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Thanks for checking into that! It did come with an install disk but I haven't checked to see what is on it yet... maybe I can add whatever driver is on it to the EBD. Is the EBD versatile enough that I would be able to put the Blizz drivers on it too? That would be cool. I know this is going to be a big enough project that I'm going to document it all... with pics! :roflmao:
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After I got rid of some duplicate RTG stuff my disk was 81% full - 163KB free. Is that enough space? You could probably use a second disk, if you needed? Point of the EBD is to just get your system to the point where it can run HDToolbox to prep the drive and then run the install script from the CD, pretty much. ;)
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You could probably use a second disk, if you needed?
You can create an EBD set of multiple disks? Running the install from the EBD would know if you needed more than one disk (would prompt for a 2nd disk)?
Point of the EBD is to just get your system to the point where it can run HDToolbox to prep the drive and then run the install script from the CD, pretty much. ;)
Yea, that much I know... :)
I have all the software I need for everything... I should prep an EBD in advance just to check it all out & see how much I can get on a disk - I can do that tomorrow! Yeah!
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You can create an EBD set of multiple disks? Running the install from the EBD would know if you needed more than one disk (would prompt for a 2nd disk)?
You'd have to fake it out, and edit the startup script to run a command from a second disk, but I don't see why it couldn't work. Even easier if you have two disk drives. ;)
Here's a screenshot of the startup-sequence on the EBD. You can see halfway down (just above the Resident command) where it asks for something off the OS3.9 CD. Which is why it won't boot completely off this disk unless that CD is in the drive. Ah-ha! LOL ;)
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You'd have to fake it out, and edit the startup script to run a command from a second disk, but I don't see why it couldn't work. Even easier if you have two disk drives. ;)
Got two drives! Geeeze, I don't know why I don't think of things like this... I used "fake out" DOS scripts to do ANYTHING back in the day!
Here's a screenshot of the startup-sequence on the EBD. You can see halfway down (just above the Resident command) where it asks for something off the OS3.9 CD. Which is why it won't boot completely off this disk unless that CD is in the drive. Ah-ha! LOL ;)
:lol: YUP!
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Installation of AmigaOS Workbench 3.9, web tools, and Boing Bags 1-4.
This was good practice. I was really tired when I made these videos and made some really dumb noob mistakes, like forgetting to check "bootable" when I prepped my new CF card. Also I ramble *a lot*. I should probably reshoot this without so much screwing around. Oh well, grab a cup of coffee of three (or five), and enjoy! ;)
Part 1:
http://youtu.be/SCMw8bStvG4
Part 2:
http://youtu.be/ufCuW--Q2nA
Nice videos Mike, of course i'm watching them and yelling out hints and tips(yea, i never make any of those mistakes lol). good job on the video, It shows many of the pitfalls the Amiga user can run into.
forgetting the bootable switch, classic!
lha x works,another classic!
install using emergency_cd as the cd driver name(just rename it CDx)..
I do everything to ram, can't count the times i unarc'd 3-4 progs,then installed one,only to reboot and wipe out the others i had just unarc'd!
all good stuff man!
Mech
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forgetting the bootable switch, classic!
Yeah, I am still facepalming over that one! D'oh! I totally knew better! :laughing:
Oh well, it was good practice for me, and hopefully anyone who comes along who's never installed 3.9 before can watch those and do it without making my mistakes. ;)
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Yeah, I am still facepalming over that one! D'oh! I totally knew better! :laughing:
Oh well, it was good practice for me, and hopefully anyone who comes along who's never installed 3.9 before can watch those and do it without making my mistakes. ;)
Its always best to do installs on the real machines, it keeps you proficient ;)
you need to make up a "essentials" cf since you have many unused slots left in the card reader :) I think you did a good job on the videos-a helluva lot better than i could of ;)