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Title: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: 2J4EZ on January 29, 2015, 06:49:48 PM
Hello all its been about 7 years since i was last here.
I recently got a CF hard drive with loads of games on from ebay. I now want my amiga on line so i can use telnet etc.

Ive installed the EASYNET software and drivers that i got from amiga kit they installed fine.
(had to install easy net software on a different partition WB partition was full)
every time i connect it says online and tells me theres a update for my software (it must be online as my router reports my amigas ip address)

Every program i tried Aweb,dc telnet etc wont work they run and thats it.

running aweb and typing a address like http://www.google.co.uk says :-

Error cannot resolve host name,entering my routers ip address says the same.

The easy net software says im online and theres a update for my program i click update and it downloads fine

Any ideas?

thanks for your time
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 29, 2015, 07:15:28 PM
Have you tried any other stack than EasyNet? Like Genesis, Miami, or Roadshow?

IMHO you might want to resolve that problem with your Workbench partition being 100% full before you go any further in your troubleshooting.  ;)
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: carvedeye on January 29, 2015, 07:16:33 PM
Quote from: 2J4EZ;782581
Hello all its been about 7 years since i was last here.
I recently got a CF hard drive with loads of games on from ebay. I now want my amiga on line so i can use telnet etc.

Ive installed the EASYNET software and drivers that i got from amiga kit they installed fine.
(had to install easy net software on a different partition WB partition was full)
every time i connect it says online and tells me theres a update for my software (it must be online as my router reports my amigas ip address)

Every program i tried Aweb,dc telnet etc wont work they run and thats it.

running aweb and typing a address like http://www.google.co.uk says :-

Error cannot resolve host name,entering my routers ip address says the same.

The easy net software says im online and theres a update for my program i click update and it downloads fine

Any ideas?

thanks for your time


Easynet is a pain in the bum to get running, I had the exact same problem but I gave up in the end and ended up using Genesis instead which is on the OS 3.9 disc
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Borut on January 29, 2015, 07:34:03 PM
I am not 100 % sure but I solved a problem like this by just setting the correct date and time of the workbench. Hopefully that helps You...
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: 2J4EZ on January 29, 2015, 07:35:08 PM
Ive got a os 3.9 cd ill give it a go.

would it be better to get another CF card and install fresh install of wb on there. and run it from there?

Is there anyway i could clone my current cf card and put it on a bigger CF card or is that too much hassle ?

thanks for your replies  so far
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: 2J4EZ on January 29, 2015, 07:36:30 PM
I just seen the reply about the date. I try that when i get home
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 29, 2015, 07:41:34 PM
I'm going to take the hardline approach and say it's better to get a new CF and start with a fresh install of just Workbench. I've seen in the past where sometimes these CF cards that people get off ebay, that come "preconfigured" with a ton of games and other crap, also have lots of stuff on them that can cause problems (for example, "ClassicWB"). Better to start fresh. 3.9 with BB1-4 is great for upgraded classic Miggy's, you don't need any of that other stuff. My .02 cents. ;)

I'm assuming you're on an A1200, or something? You have a CD drive to install 3.9? Once that all is done you can get a PCMCIA-to-CF adapter and just copy the games off the old CF onto the new one. There's all sorts of other ways to install two CF's in your Amiga, as well. Dual card interfaces, cables with multiple ports, etcetera.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: paul1981 on January 29, 2015, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: 2J4EZ;782581
Error cannot resolve host name,entering my routers ip address says the same.

The easy net software says im online and theres a update for my program i click update and it downloads fine

Any ideas?

thanks for your time


Sounds like the DNS server isn't configured, which is normally the same as the gateway address. I don't use Easynet so can't advise how or where you would enter that information.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: 2J4EZ on January 29, 2015, 08:32:29 PM
I'll try the DNS setting when I get home I'll try all suggestions from here
Thanks for the quick replies so far
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Duce on January 29, 2015, 08:35:57 PM
Aye, sounds like a DNS issue.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: danbeaver on January 29, 2015, 09:37:48 PM
Easynet is not all that easy, but Amigakit stands behind their offerings, so open a support ticket and ask them to work with you on solving the problem.  Also try pinging your router to see if the stack is working (>ping 192.168.0.1 for example).

I use Roadshow myself: an easy install with one reboot and it is running (unless you can't follow directions):laughing:
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: jj on January 29, 2015, 10:31:12 PM
Is the wb disk full because of validation errors ?   This could be causing issues ?
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: carvedeye on January 29, 2015, 10:46:18 PM
I had the exact same problem when I was trying to get online with easynet and I was using a standard ide hdd. If you have the OS 3.9 disc just run the genesis installer and use that instead.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: 2J4EZ on January 30, 2015, 01:11:58 AM
ive just added my routers ip to the dns and it seems to of worked.
i ran aweb typed in google.co.uk got a white screen with text then it crashed.

went on to dc telnet and connected to telehackers.com it worked! i was able to watch the ascii starwars film thing and goto a few other telnet sites

ill try installing aweb again and find a few browsers to try.

im getting further thank you to all your replies so far
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: magnetic on January 30, 2015, 02:17:38 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;782590
Better to start fresh. 3.9 with BB1-4 is great for upgraded classic Miggy's, you don't need any of that other stuff. My .02 cents. ;)

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I would NOT recommend for you to use Boing Bag 3 or 4. Stick with official BB 1 and 2 from Amiga.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: danbeaver on January 30, 2015, 02:56:19 AM
Quote from: 2J4EZ;782614
ive just added my routers ip to the dns and it seems to of worked.
i ran aweb typed in google.co.uk got a white screen with text then it crashed.

went on to dc telnet and connected to telehackers.com it worked! i was able to watch the ascii starwars film thing and goto a few other telnet sites

ill try installing aweb again and find a few browsers to try.

im getting further thank you to all your replies so far
IBrowse is a bit more stable than AWeb (IMHO).
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 30, 2015, 04:07:23 AM
Quote from: magnetic;782619
I would NOT recommend for you to use Boing Bag 3 or 4. Stick with official BB 1 and 2 from Amiga.

I love you man.  But just because YOU don't know how to install them, doesn't mean they don't work great.  ;)

Disclaimer:  OP's mileage may vary.  :)
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: matthey on January 30, 2015, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;782621
IBrowse is a bit more stable than AWeb (IMHO).


There were some unstable versions of AWeb_APL but the 3.5.09 version and later are mostly stable, at least up to HTML 4.01 and JS 1.5. Some people get a 0x8000000B crash on startup which is a LINE-F trap usually caused by FPU code without an FPU. I'm not sure if this is an AWeb component using the FPU (Andy Broad claims that AWeb should not use the FPU) or a non-AWeb library that is called. Similar problems can occur with IBrowse MUI libraries where they are either buggy versions or use resources that the computer does not have.

Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;782624
I love you man.  But just because YOU don't know how to install them, doesn't mean they don't work great.  ;)


The "official" BoingBag 1 and 2 cause problems for some users but are worthwhile upgrades. BoingBag 3 and 4 also cause problems for a minority of users and are a mixed bag but mostly good. I bet magnetic uses several components that are in BoingBag 3 and 4 like Peter K's icon.library.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: QuikSanz on January 30, 2015, 05:25:31 PM
A bit off topic but, is there a way to straighten out all the boing bags? Take out the old and buggy parts, replace with newer versions and put them all on 1 CD?

Chris
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 30, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: QuikSanz;782648
A bit off topic but, is there a way to straighten out all the boing bags? Take out the old and buggy parts, replace with newer versions and put them all on 1 CD?

I can't imagine it would be too hard for someone with a CF interface to just pop in a blank CF, install 3.9 off the CD, then install BB 1, 2, 3, 4, all in order, then download the few additional updates from Aminet that aren't included in the BB's. Heck, I could do that. But creating some kind of installer script and putting it on a CD... that would probably take some doing. :(

The only times I see legit problems is if you take an already running system, something that's been in use and had all manner of updates and changes made, and then try to install a BB update. It's just like with Windows, the best way to do it is a fresh install on a blank drive, then install ALL the updates, before you make any changes or install anything else. ;)
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: paul1981 on January 30, 2015, 08:47:27 PM
Or even better, just stick with a customised fine-tuned OS3.1 installation. Isn't that right Mike? :)
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 30, 2015, 09:10:18 PM
Quote from: paul1981;782659
Or even better, just stick with a customised fine-tuned OS3.1 installation. Isn't that right Mike? :)

I fine-tune my stuff to the nth degree!  Back in the '90s I would edit each and every icon for pixel-perfect precision, color, and alignment, and smallest file size.  I would stay up till 4am just fixing icons!  Had that sh1t down to an art, part of my OCD, I suppose.  Don't have time for that anymore though, but I do still anxiously watch Aminet for any updates to any of the libraries I use!  :D

The Amiga is beautiful, for the myriad ways it can be customized.  I still tell that to anyone who will listen, even today.  ;)
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: kolla on January 31, 2015, 04:54:40 PM
OS 3.9 FE? Haha. A shame it cannot happen.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 31, 2015, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: kolla;782692
OS 3.9 FE? Haha. A shame it cannot happen.

That, sir, would be a fantastic idea.  ;)
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: danbeaver on January 31, 2015, 07:16:33 PM
That would be a Boing Bag FE.
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: QuikSanz on January 31, 2015, 08:16:48 PM
@kolla,

That's pretty much what I had in mind, on the money actually!

Chris
Title: Re: I no my amiga is online but.
Post by: mrmoonlight on January 31, 2015, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;782600
Easynet is not all that easy, but Amigakit stands behind their offerings, so open a support ticket and ask them to work with you on solving the problem. Also try pinging your router to see if the stack is working (>ping 192.168.0.1 for example).

I use Roadshow myself: an easy install with one reboot and it is running (unless you can't follow directions):laughing:


 I am sad to say I never had any luck with Easynet, and I too use Roadshow , which has to be the easiest one ever and works wonderfully well on all my Amiga, best wishes Brian.