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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Desktop Audio and Video => Topic started by: rednova on December 18, 2014, 01:26:28 AM
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Dear Friends:
I am a novice musician. I recently started learning to play the keyboard.
I do have octamed and deluxe music construction set.
I love both, and I am very happy with them.
I am thinking about getting bars and pipes, but dunno if it will help me much.
Is bars and pipes worth getting, since I have the other 2 programs ?
Thank you !!!
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Since it's free, just give it a try!
http://bnp.hansfaust.de/
:)
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Hi:
I cannot try it, since I have no way to transfer to my classic amiga 2000
and the pc I use amiga forever on, is isolated to protect my animation software.
Thank you though,
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I don't think it is worth it. It has some features, but is really crippled as well.
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Hi:
I cannot try it, since I have no way to transfer to my classic amiga 2000
Honestly, bars and pipes is highly inferior to free MIDI sequencing software available for your PC.
OctaMED is still useful though as a pattern sequencer and sample playback tool.
and the pc I use amiga forever on, is isolated to protect my animation software.
Thank you though,
What does "isolated to protect my animation software" mean?
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I don't think it is worth it. It has some features, but is really crippled as well.
In what way do you find it crippled? It's the only music software I use on the Amiga. Sure, it's not Cubase or Logic but it does its job.
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Dear Friends:
I am thinking about getting bars and pipes, but dunno if it will help me much.
Is bars and pipes worth getting, since I have the other 2 programs ?
It's at least worth a try.
OctaMED remains my favourite Amiga programme but I used to use B&P a fair bit too as the MIDI features of OctaMED are pretty limited.
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It may not be obvious either - that the applications you currently use produce audio via paula.
Bars & Pipes is purely MIDI. Unless you have external midi gear it won't be that useful.
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In what way do you find it crippled? It's the only music software I use on the Amiga. Sure, it's not Cubase or Logic but it does its job.
I only used it for a little while (a few hours). Compared to others at the time it wasn't as good.
I found a youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2mb7YyALg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2mb7YyALg)
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Honestly, bars and pipes is highly inferior to free MIDI sequencing software available for your PC.
I don't think it is worth it. It has some features, but is really crippled as well. I only used it for a little while (a few hours). Compared to others at the time it wasn't as good.
Interesting comments. My experience after using Bars & Pipes extensively has been the exact opposite. Bars & Pipes has been one of the best pure-MIDI sequencers I have ever used, even compared to the modern MIDI capabilities built into REAPER, for example (I have never used Logic, though, which I hear has good MIDI implementation). I love the whole graphical pipeline GUI paradigm - although some might, unfortunately, immediately dismiss it because the style of the graphics now look dated (this is purely cosmetic, though).
and the pc I use amiga forever on, is isolated to protect my animation software.
What does "isolated to protect my animation software" mean?
I was wondering this too. It's not like PC malware can infect an Amiga.
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Interesting comments. My experience after using Bars & Pipes extensively has been the exact opposite. Bars & Pipes has been one of the best pure-MIDI sequencers I have ever used, even compared to the modern MIDI capabilities built into REAPER, for example (I have never used Logic, though, which I hear has good MIDI implementation). I love the whole graphical pipeline GUI paradigm - although some might, unfortunately, immediately dismiss it because the style of the graphics now look dated (this is purely cosmetic, though).
I use Logic Pro X for almost all my music needs (with a bit of OctaMED, and some Reason), but that obviously isn't free :) But you are quite right it has a wonderfully rich MIDI implementation... Happily I don't need to use MIDI much any more :)
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If you need decent music sequencers there are a whole lot to choose from but I still like Octamed on the Amiga (and have the PC version too). But strictly on Amiga I would choose Soundstudio Octamed and then why not improvise.The fact is that Amiga is no longer the king of music sequencing apart from when it comes to tracking in 8 bit which other systems will never beat due to the complexity of hardware and the simplicty of the of Amiga hardware vs software which still reverberates nicely these days in audio tracks :)
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I use Logic Pro X for almost all my music needs ...
OT: I've been stuck on Logic 9 for years as the drivers for my mixer / audio-interface / MIDI interface / control surface (Yamaha 01X) only work with 32 bit.
I got that wonderfully versatile piece of kit for £300 off eBay but it seems that to replace it with something compatible with Logic X would be at least an order of magnitude more expensive and probably not as comprehensive.