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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: fondpondforever on December 09, 2014, 05:03:47 PM
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What is the best Commodore 4000 Monitor? Thanks
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"Best"? That's kind of a subjective term, don't you think? What's "best" for you might not be "best" for someone else.
That being said, if you want a monitor that was specifically manufactured by Commodore, try looking here:
http://gona.mactar.hu/Commodore/monitor/Commodore_monitors_by_model_number.html
Personally I use a Dell LCD monitor on my A2000, and a Vizio LCD TV on my A500. I would say that they're both "the best", but again - subjective, haha. ;)
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The 1084ST Monitor was released in 1994 two years later than the 1960 Monitor but according to the website the 1960 is better for the 4000.
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The 1084ST Monitor was released in 1994 two years later than the 1960 Monitor but according to the website the 1960 is better for the 4000.
Just because something is newer doesn't mean it is better. I wish I still had my 1970 Oldsmobile 98 convertible. Except for the terrible gas mileage, I'd take that car over any modern car, these days! ;)
You do know you don't have to use a Commodore monitor specifically, right? Although I suppose if you're trying to keep it authentic to C= era hardware, the 1960 has probably the highest resolution, and lowest dot pitch, of any of the models they released.
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I've read that people say the Commodore 1084 Monitor is best one ever made for the Amiga Computer's. So would you say for a Third Generation Amiga it's between the 1960 and 1084. Does anyone know much about the 1084ST Monitor? Thank you.
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"Best"? That's kind of a subjective term, don't you think? What's "best" for you might not be "best" for someone else.
Well, if you write something about why you prefer a particular monitor, maybe it can be an interesting discussion anyway.
I like the 1084S. I used to have some old PHILIPS video editing monitors before that had SCART inputs and were a bit sharper, but I can't remember the models, but the 1084 is a nice small CRT with an RGB input. Some people complain about eye strain or headaches after using CRT monitors, though, particularly at low refresh rates like 50/60 Hz. For me, authenticity is important, which is why I prefer it. It was a very common monitor here.
In europe you can use many small LCD TV sets that come with RGB inputs via SCART. This is convenient (in size and weight) but it can be hit or miss in terms of picture quality. Mine is a bit blurry and not particularly bright compared to the 1084, but in the end the size, weight and LCD makes it worth it.
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What is the best Commodore 4000 Monitor? Thanks
The 1960 being a multisync is a good monitor that can do just about all A4000 modes.
The 1950 is multisync and does most all modes.
The 1942 works ok, its technically a bi-sync but does most modes. Note many have bad/ cracked solder joints on the chokes and flyback and need resoldering-I have fixed many with this problem, and once fixed seem to be fine.
SonyCPD-1302 a good trinitron multisync,nice .25 dot pitch, does all modes. Hard to find these days
Nec 3d Another hard to find monitor that does all modes.
here is a list i found on the net,most of these would work for amiga 15khz+ modes:
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/15KHz_SVGA_Monitors
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Thanks mechy, the 1942 was released in 1993 yet the 1960 which was released in 1992 seems to make use of the 4000 models more being two years older. I'm confused lol
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Thanks mechy, the 1942 was released in 1993 yet the 1960 which was released in 1992 seems to make use of the 4000 models more being two years older. I'm confused lol
I would'nt put much into when the monitors were made, this has no correlation really. Commodore even used 1084s on their early ibm clones.
it just comes down to what you want to do. Multisyncs can usually do all the possible amiga modes(15khz-31khz+), while 1084s etc will tolerate 15khz modes only. Without a flicker fixer/scan doubler you might likely go crazy with the flicker in some interlaced modes :) As someone said above, never is not always better. Go by the specs of the monitor to choose whats best for you.
If you want accuracy,a crt is the best thing,since amigas were made for them. some lcd monitors can do 15khz(like the dell 24" st2410l i use) and although it looks good in some ntsc modes, it doesnt handle others.
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Thank you for your excellent information mate. The 1960 Monitor seems to be the most appropriate one for it's advanced ouput functionality on the Commodore Amiga 4000. If I got a 1940 or 1942 Monitor and used it on a 4000 what differences would I notice and what features will I loose in comparison to the 1960. I know you said that the 1942 is a bi-sync. Anything Else? The hunt for the 1960, 1942 and 1940 begins. Is eBay and Amibay the best places to look for these Monitor's? :)
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Thank you for your excellent information mate. The 1960 Monitor seems to be the most appropriate one for it's advanced ouput functionality on the Commodore Amiga 4000. If I got a 1940 or 1942 Monitor and used it on a 4000 what differences would I notice and what features will I loose in comparison to the 1960. I know you said that the 1942 is a bi-sync. Anything Else? The hunt for the 1960, 1942 and 1940 begins. Is eBay and Amibay the best places to look for these Monitor's? :)
IMHO I would still use anything but a CRT monitor in 2014, but I get that some people want to "keep it original". More info here:
1940/1942:
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=854
1960:
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=857
Craigslist occasionally has Amiga items, don't forget to pick up a 23-pin to 15-pin adapter with these monitors!
Edit: Does the 1960 have speakers? I think only the 1940/1942 do. If that's important to you.
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I had the 1084, 1950 and the 1960. Always preferred the 1950/60. Neither had speakers, I had the add-on A-10 speaker kit.
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Iiyama: MF-5017(MF-5021)
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=870
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Iiyama: MF-5017(MF-5021)
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=870
I have a 17 Liyama here that has the long persistence phosphor.. unfortunately not good for game use etc unless you like trails across the screen,the long persistence was to keep flicker at bay in interlace modes(it was directed to video toaster users).
The monitor you list is a fairly rare puppy.
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I liked the Amiga M1764
and the '70 Olds was huge and couldn't corner but at least it (should have) had a Rocket 88.
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I liked the Amiga M1764
and the '70 Olds was huge and couldn't corner but at least it (should have) had a Rocket 88.
I've always heard the M1764 was very unreliable. And rare. Probably because they all broke. Good luck finding one. Also it's AT, not C=, since that seems to matter?
Oh, and she had a 455, baby! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZV6q00sUc
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My recently Retr0brited M1764 still works fine, although I use a 32" flat screen for my A4KT and X1000.
And I bet with that big 455 she had a ton of oversteer
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What's the difference between the 1960 and 1962 Monitor?
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My vote goes for the Sony GVM-1311Q multisync monitor. Mine was just rebuilt by Ray Carlsen.
Oh, and she had a 455, baby! ;)
From 1971 to 1985, I had an Oldsmobile Delta 88 with the Rocket 350 V8. Strange to call it a Rocket when it only had a 2-barrel carburetor. ;) The Delta 88 was totaled in '85 when a hit-and-run driver crashed into it while it was parked. (sniff) Fortunately, the driver did not run too far before being caught.
And your 455 had a 4-barrel!
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
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My vote goes for the Sony GVM-1311Q multisync monitor. Mine was just rebuilt by Ray Carlsen.
From 1971 to 1985, I had an Oldsmobile Delta 88 with the Rocket 350 V8. Strange to call it a Rocket when it only had a 2-barrel carburetor. ;) The Delta 88 was totaled in '85 when a hit-and-run driver crashed into it while it was parked. (sniff) Fortunately, the driver did not run too far before being caught.
And your 455 had a 4-barrel!
After it's popularity in the '50s, Oldsmobile started tagging everything with the "Rocket" moniker. My favorite was the "Super Rocket", or the "Toronado Rocket" in 1967. Popping the hood on one of those babies and seeing the big "Ultra High Compression" sticker across the air cleaner, not to mention that they were front-wheel drive, was a sight to behold! ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_V8_engine#Super_Rocket
I had three Oldsmobiles, '70, '76, and '79, a 1972 Buick Electra 225 "deuce and a quarter", a '68 Dodge Dart, and pretty much a yard full of cars, back in the day, half of which belonged to my friends, that I'd work on. That's why "Oldsmobile_Mike", BTW. Because "Mike" is such a common name (not to mention my last name is very common, as well), people would call me "Oldsmobile_Mike" as a way to differentiate. I had two hobbies: working on cars, and Amiga's. ;)
We could geek out about cars all day long, I'd be okay with that, but I think we've derailed this thread far enough. Ha! :roflmao:
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What's the difference between the 1960 and 1962 Monitor?
I think the 1960 was made by Lite-On, or Philips, and the 1962 was made by Electrohome. When you get down to the nuts and bolts of it, there's really almost no difference between most of these monitors. For example the 10-or-so different models of 1084. One might have the tilt/swivel base, and the other might not (like the difference between the 1940 & 1942). Commodore was the cheapest of the cheap, back in the day. They'd outsource monitor manufacture to whichever company could crank them out for a few pennies less, and then slap a Commodore badge on them.
You really want something unique, but also retro? check out the A2024. I think The Amiga Lounge had one of those for sale recently, might still have it!
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According to this website the 1962 was an Escom Model as this database 'Excludes Escom Monitors'. I thought Commodore made 1962 Monitor's. :confused:
http://gona.mactar.hu/Commodore/monitor/Commodore_monitors_by_model_number.html
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According to this website the 1962 was an Escom Model as this database 'Excludes Escom Monitors'. I thought Commodore made 1962 Monitor's. :confused:
http://gona.mactar.hu/Commodore/monitor/Commodore_monitors_by_model_number.html
After Commodore declared bankruptcy in 1994 "ownership" of the Amiga went through many hands. Without going to Wikipedia to check my exact dates, I believe Escom AG owned Amiga from 1995-1996 until they, too, went bankrupt. Under Escom ownership Amigas were sold under the "Amiga Technologies" brand, or AT. Their line consisted of A1200's, A4000T's, and some re-branded monitors, M1438, M1764, stuff like that (and I guess 1962's). That's why you'll hear people talking about "Commodore A4000T's" and "AT A4000T's", with the Commodore branded ones being much more rare. Functionally they're nearly identical to their C= branded predecessors, a change to a faceplate here, a change to a floppy drive there, etc.
You have much to learn, young padawan. ;)
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According to this website the 1962 was an Escom Model as this database 'Excludes Escom Monitors'. I thought Commodore made 1962 Monitor's. :confused:
http://gona.mactar.hu/Commodore/monitor/Commodore_monitors_by_model_number.html
You probably saw this, but: click (http://www.bboah.com/index.php?action=artikel&cat=66&id=2877&artlang=en)
I have an Amiga World magazine somewhere with a review of the 1962. It was not C= branded, but targeted the Amiga market.
Commodore was the cheapest of the cheap, back in the day. They'd outsource monitor manufacture to whichever company could crank them out for a few pennies less, and then slap a Commodore badge on them.
The 1084 at least had several tube manufacturers, some better than others. The earlier ones with Orion and Hitachi (Japanese) tubes were the best IMO.
Best of the C= branded multisync monitors: 1950 or 1960
Honestly, while adequate none of them were really all that fantastic.
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Thanks guys, that makes sense now. I still don't understand how Commodore's 1960 Multisyc Monitor was released in 1991 whereas it's 1940 Bisync Monitor was released in 1993. You would think it would be the other way round or were these release dates incorrect.
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Thanks guys, that makes sense now. I still don't understand how Commodore's 1960 Multisyc Monitor was released in 1991 whereas it's 1940 Bisync Monitor was released in 1993. You would think it would be the other way round or were these release dates incorrect.
From what I recall, the 1960 was a "high end" model released roughly around the same time as the A4000 came out. The 1940 was a "lower end" model released to go along with the A1200. That's why the 1940 was cheaper and had speakers. It was for gamers. The 1960 was for productivity and had a higher dot pitch.
Really I think you're reading too much into these model numbers. Just because 1960 > 1940 sequentially doesn't mean anything in terms of the specs or capabilities of the model.
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Ok, I understand. What would a 1940 be like on a 4000? Would you need to install a graphics card to make up for the Multisync of the 1960 which this Monitor does not have.
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Ok, I understand. What would a 1940 be like on a 4000? Would you need to install a graphics card to make up for the Multisync of the 1960 which this Monitor does not have.
"What would it be like"? I would not use a 13" CRT monitor of any type in 2014. I use 1084's especially as doorstops, they are horrible, horrible on the eyes, lol. ;) But to answer your question, since the 1940 supports both 15KHz and 31KHz output, it should allow you to display most of the standard screenmodes of a stock A4000.
Any Amiga graphics card is going to exceed the capabilities of all of these monitors. Look at the specs of one of the better Amiga graphics cards. Now compare this to the capabilities of these monitors you're looking at:
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/picasso4
As you can see, this particular card can do up to 1600x1200 resolution. None of these junky C= monitors will support that. You'd have to get a real monitor. ;)
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Appreciate your support, although I want to keep the authentic Commodore Retro Experience. Get the 1960, Get the 1940, Get the 1960, Get the 1940, ahhhhhhhh I can't make a decision!!! :crazy:
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Appreciate your support, although I want to keep the authentic Commodore Retro Experience. Get the 1960, Get the 1940, Get the 1960, Get the 1940, ahhhhhhhh I can't make a decision!!! :crazy:
That's what I figured. Neither of them come up for sale very often, I'd say get whichever you can find first, and be prepared to do a little work on it to "get it right".
There's a 1950 for sale right now with a fairly reasonable buy-it-now price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMMODORE-1950-MONITOR-Amiga-CLEANED-WORKING-multisync-vga-crt-vintage-/321612132369 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMMODORE-1950-MONITOR-Amiga-CLEANED-WORKING-multisync-vga-crt-vintage-/321612132369?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ae193b011)
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Not interested in the 1950, thanks for the link though. So Mike, if you had an Amiga 4000 without a Monitor, would you choose the 1960 or 1940 if you had to choose from one of the two.
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Not interested in the 1950, thanks for the link though. So Mike, if you had an Amiga 4000 without a Monitor, would you choose the 1960 or 1940 if you had to choose from one of the two.
I would sooner gouge my eyes out. ;) The A4000 is capable of so much more, especially if you add a video card.
Although if it was the year 1992 again, I'd probably go with the 1960 and just use a set of external speakers or hook up to my stereo. I had a 1084S-D1 back then however, because that's all I could afford and I thought it was amazing. In 1992. ;)
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Here's the response I got on EAB. I asked 'What's the 1940 like compared to the 1960 monitor on an Amiga 4000' and the person responded with this answer 'Terrible..Oh, reasoning.. yes..
- no two amiga screen modes use the same adjustments so you will spend a lot of time twiddling the knobs
- unsharp dot pitch'
What would be your comment to this answer Mike? Thanks
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I used an Indivision AGA and a 19" SVGA CRT, looks a lot nicer than an LCD.
Now I have a Picasso IV via the same screen.
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Here's the response I got on EAB. I asked 'What's the 1940 like compared to the 1960 monitor on an Amiga 4000' and the person responded with this answer 'Terrible..Oh, reasoning.. yes..
- no two amiga screen modes use the same adjustments so you will spend a lot of time twiddling the knobs
- unsharp dot pitch'
What would be your comment to this answer Mike? Thanks
Ha! :)
The 1960 does have a higher dot pitch. You can read that right in any of the pages of links to the specs we've already sent you. It was the more "professional" model. Neither of these was a high quality product when they were released new, however. And now, with 20 years of age on them? Good luck. ;)
I remember back in the day, most people wanted the NEC 3D. That was "the monitor to have". Nobody who knew better wanted a Commodore monitor. Or what was that other monster that people liked back in the day? The 20" Toshiba TIMM? Maybe try finding one of those? Ha. ;)
Amiga Report Magazine has a few reviews on different monitors from "back in the day" tucked inside it's pages. Was a bit of nostalgia just googling up a link: http://www.amigareport.com/ (http://www.amigareport.com/) Have fun! :)
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The 1942 is better than the 1940. I've seen the 1942 in action and it's really not that bad, definitely a little nicer than the similarly-cased Korean 1084's. The 1960 was the best, most expensive and probably had a better tube.
A 14" or 20" Sony broadcast CRT is the absolute pinnacle for games - blows away those old monitors, or any other CRT, and (at 14") will keep the screen size authentic. Personally, I don't like blowing up old low-res games on big LCDs, so I hear ya there.
Another idea would be to run Workbench using a graphics card on a CRT or LCD (something quality, like an Eizo, older Iiyama, etc), with a 14" Sony PVM/BVM plugged into the RGB port. Best of both worlds.
If you want an original C= monitor, don't want to upgrade the machine much over stock, and have one monitor for everything, hold out for a 1960.
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The 1960 Monitor it is then. :) I just have one last question. Why would Commodore release the 1940 Monitor 2 years after the 1960 Monitor which was Multisync where as the later one was Bisync, not as advanced. Thanks
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The 1960 Monitor it is then. :) I just have one last question. Why would Commodore release the 1940 Monitor 2 years after the 1960 Monitor which was Multisync where as the later one was Bisync, not as advanced. Thanks
Like I said, from what I remember of seeing of ads in Amiga World and other magazines at the time, the 1940 was released as a "lower end" monitor to be sold along with the A1200. That's why it had speakers - for games. The 1960 was a business/productivity monitor, hence the higher dot pitch.
Companies released cost-reduced models all the time. Commodore was especially "cost conscious" in this way. In other words, "cheap".
TL;DR. You're killing me dude. Just because something's newer doesn't mean it's better. :p
Go ask Commodore if you want any more reasoning than that. ;)
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That makes perfect sense now. Thanks so much for all of your super duper info Mike. *Start's surfing Amibay for a Commodore Amiga 1960 Monitor whilst eating Iced White, Red and Green Christmas Ring Donuts' :D
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The 1960 Monitor it is then. :) I just have one last question. Why would Commodore release the 1940 Monitor 2 years after the 1960 Monitor which was Multisync where as the later one was Bisync, not as advanced. Thanks
I'm not sure the "two years" statement is accurate.
The 1940/42 was lower cost with less features intended for the A1200 market. It may have been released (for whatever reasons) later than the 1960, but was definitely not in the same price/performance bracket as the 1960.
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Ok cool.
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What is the best Commodore 4000 Monitor? Thanks
Where are you located? I have a 1942 if you are interested.
Rich
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That's Brilliant, I'm definitely interested in buying it from you. How much money would you want for the Monitor. Located in Cornwall, England. :)
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That's Brilliant, I'm definitely interested in buying it from you. How much money would you want for the Monitor. Located in Cornwall, England. :)
Hmmm.. Well Im located in NY. I cant even imagine the shipping cost to England. Probably not worth it. Actually the monitor is free to anyone local :).
Rich
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I'm willing to pay the international postage and packaging cost. It's no different from sending anything else worldwide, I've bought a big box of Megaman Items from the USA before, wasn't that expensive. So I'm still keen :cool:
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It would need to be extremely well packed or it will not arrive in one piece, I will always go and collect monitors myself for that reason.
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The Samsung Syncmaster 711r is a great flat screen solution.
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The "Dot Pitch" isn't the best and it also can't do very large resolutions (does 640 x 480 & 800 x 600 well and maybe 1024 x 768), but depending on what you want to use your A4000 for, I like my Toshiba "TIMM" 20" CRT monitor for most stuff. It is huge and weighs a ton, so you don't want to be moving it around much, but if you have a NewTek Video Toaster/Flyer, or Macro Systems V-Lab Motion, or GVP IV-24, video effects boards, then having a CRT that also does Composite Video input, is a plus. It beats working on the small 13" screen of a 1084S monitor.
At one time I had 3 Toshiba "TIMM" monitors, but sold one of them a couple of years ago, so now only have 2 of them in my collection. I don't know how hard they are to find these days, or how many were manufactured, but if you want to stick with a CRT monitor for your A4000, I think the TIMM is one of the better choices (subjective opinion of course).
Edit: Odd that the TIMM is not listed on the Monitor list at the Big Book of Amiga Hardware.
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Plenty of Big Bubble Wrap and 'Fragile Handle with Care' Sellotape will do the job for the Monitor to arrive in one piece ;)
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Plenty of Big Bubble Wrap and 'Fragile Handle with Care' Sellotape will do the job for the Monitor to arrive in one piece ;)
I don't doubt my packing skills..however that being said just too much of a hassle for me at the moment. Sorry. I might just do a Craigslist ad.
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Where are you located? I have a 1942 if you are interested.
Rich
You have a buyer though, I might not see one for another 2 years. You might not get a buyer on Craigslist for 2 years. I would be so happy if you were willing to make that effort and send it to England from the USA. So how much will the Postage and Packaging be? Go to your local Post Office and get Calculating :)
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You have a buyer though, I might not see one for another 2 years. You might not get a buyer on Craigslist for 2 years. I would be so happy if you were willing to make that effort and send it to England from the USA. So how much will the Postage and Packaging be? Go to your local Post Office and get Calculating :)
I actually dont want a buyer, the monitor is free. In order to get an accurate shipping quote I would have to source the perfect box, pack her up and get it weighed at the Post Office, not to mention you might get banged for import tax.. I just don't have the time at the moment to go through all that..
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I was going to offer you £100 for the Commodore Amiga 1942 Monitor plus the cost of Postage and Packaging but if you can't be bothered don't worry about it. :juggler:
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I was going to offer you £100 for the Commodore Amiga 1942 Monitor plus the cost of Postage and Packaging but if you can't be bothered don't worry about it. :juggler:
Very generous.. Danke. I bet shipping would cost about the same...or more. I recently sent a 1lb. item to the UK and it was $22.
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How much do you think the Monitor is worth?
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Is the 1942 able to do PAL/220V? Since the last time I checked, NY was still in the land of NTSC/110V.
If not, you may want to look closer to home. I know you want that C= experience, but the Dell ST2420L syncs to 15khz, has VGA, DVI and HDMI and looks pretty great with Amiga output.
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I was going to ask that question. Will an American Monitor be PAL Compatible? Thanks
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The 1080 (and I believe the 1084) were made with enough wide tolerances that they would sync to PAL, but that is all I've read.
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Every 1084 I've used, except for the earliest ones, were able to display both 50Hz (PAL) and 60Hz (NTSC) video modes just fine. Might just have to twiddle the vertical size adjustment knob a bit. Obviously that won't help you if one requires 110V and you're on 220V, however. :(
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Will this do the trick?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NTSC-PAL-to-PAL-NTSC-SECAM-Mini-Bi-directional-TV-Format-System-Converter-Box-/281526799789
And would you need this?
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-230v-to-110v-300w-voltage-converter-vr05f
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Will this do the trick?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NTSC-PAL-to-PAL-NTSC-SECAM-Mini-Bi-directional-TV-Format-System-Converter-Box-/281526799789
And would you need this?
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-230v-to-110v-300w-voltage-converter-vr05f
I honestly think his monitor would get destroyed if it was to be posted. Doesn't matter how well it's packed, as soon as some numb-nuts kicks or lobs it off the back of his lorry into the depot (it being too heavy and protesting) it is bound to be destroyed. I've seen it happen with my own eyes.
Of course, at £100 this would be a financial loss to you but also one less Commodore monitor in the world.
Personally, if I was in your position I would purchase an IndivisionAGA and buy a sizable high quality CRT monitor for local pickup from ebay.
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Dude!
Buy one locally and save the hassle.
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Will this do the trick?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NTSC-PAL-to-PAL-NTSC-SECAM-Mini-Bi-directional-TV-Format-System-Converter-Box-/281526799789
Even if the 1942 accepted the composite video that box puts out (and I don't think it will), that converter box would force you to use the A4000's much lower quality composite video output, defeating the whole point of a VGA+ quality multi-sync monitor like the 1942. You might as well use a colour TV found at the side of the road in that case.
From reading this thread, I'm gathering you don't have a lot of understanding of how the various monitors & screenmodes work for Amiga computers. That's totally fine - this place is where you can find that information out and it's entirely legitimate to ask basic questions here. But, I do recommend you take the time to listen to the advice of the people in this thread before you spend a lot of money and end up with a sub-par experience, or a broken, incompatible monitor shipped from the USA at the price of an arm and a leg.
If I were you I'd advertise locally for a used Amiga monitor, or find an old PC monitor that can multisync to Amiga screenmodes (there are lists online). That will probably end up being a much better solution - and likely cheap or free as people are casting off their old CRT monitors by the truckload.
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I'll take your advice guys and search for one in the UK. :)
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I'll take your advice guys and search for one in the UK. :)
:)..
Rich
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I'll take your advice guys and search for one in the UK. :)
Also, you never said what you use your Amiga for. If it's for games then you'll rarely, if ever, need to go above 640x240 resolution (or the PAL equivalent of the "hi-res" screenmode). In that case, a standard, common 1084 is all you'll really need. I know of only a handful of games (out of thousands) that even require anything higher (like Mechforce, maybe).
Heck, for most action games where there's no fine on-screen text to read, even a SCART connection to a good colour TV or C64 monitor would be quite enough for your needs. You are in the UK, I gather, so most TVs/monitors should have that connector.
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I use my Amiga 1200 for Games ;)
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I use my Amiga 1200 for Games ;)
Oh...then very little point in getting a 1942 multisync monitor. A 1084 will do just fine for 99% of all games and is way more common.
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Ok thanks.
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I use my Amiga 1200 for Games ;)
Check around to see if there are any Toshiba TIMM monitors near where you live for sale. It is great for Amiga games and gives you a 20" screen size to enjoy, instead of a 13" screen of the 1084S.
The TIMM does all game resolutions great and has the full functionality of a TV set as well, with built-in speakers that don't sound bad, so it should be perfect for what your needs are with your A1200.
Don't bother trying to have one shipped to you though, as the weight would make the cost of postage outrageous.
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Thanks for your advice dave. Getting back to the original topic...
What Monitors did the Commodore Amiga 4000T come with when it was being sold in shops. I'm guessing it was the 1960 ;)
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What Monitors did the Commodore Amiga 4000T come with when it was being sold in shops. I'm guessing it was the 1960 ;)
I don't think the C= A4000T ever made it to any shops. It'd be a rare bird, if it had! Google yourself up some PDF copies of old issues of Amiga World magazine, or any of the other half-dozen or so mags that existed at the time, and check out the advertisements. The later AT A4000T (1995-1996) was usually advertised with one of the Microvitec monitors.
TL;DR. Yes, probably the 1960 for the C= model. ;)
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This is just what you're looking for and more me thinks... :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nec-Multisync-2-CRT-Monitor-15-5kHz-Hsync-Great-for-vintage-computers-/301438260191?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_Monitors&hash=item462f1ed3df
Nec Multisync 2 CRT Monitor, 15.5kHz Hsync. Great for vintage computers
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/sTkAAOSwVFlUCHqI/$_57.JPG)
"A working NEC Multisyns2 for sale. Very hard to get one these days. Model jc-1402hme. Has been used onto the amiga using a 9 pins cable (not included with the monitor)"
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Thanks for the link.