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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: motrucker on November 30, 2014, 12:12:11 PM
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I just did a new install of 3.1 on my A2000 (in prep for a new 3.5 install as soon as my "new" CD drive is in).
Problem is, for some reason Multiview is not working. The file is where it belongs (I think) in the Workbench/Utilities drawer. Any ideas why it refuses to work? What am I forgetting.....
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Check path in the startup-sequence.
To fix mine I made a copy of it and put it in the C directory so i wouldn't have to worry about the startup-sequence.
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Do you know what the assign statement is supposed to look like? I tried putting a copy in C, and still nothing. Thought maybe that copy of Multiview might be corrupted, so I tried another copy - still no go. This is driving me crazy.
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It should be Path RAM: SYS:Utilities SYS:Tools (and so on)
Also check if Amigaguide is in the devs/datatypes drawer.
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For starters you could check if these libraries are available:
369 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib intuition.library Ver 37 OK
370 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib gadtools.library Ver 37 OK
371 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib graphics.library Ver 37 OK
372 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib utility.library Ver 37 OK
373 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib workbench.library Ver 37 OK
374 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib diskfont.library Ver 36 OK
375 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib iffparse.library Ver 37 OK
376 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib asl.library Ver 37 OK
377 KingCON DOS-proces OpenLib icon.library Ver 37 OK
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When you say it's "not working", can you be more specific? Does it just not open when you double-click on it's icon? Have you tried starting it from the shell? Does it give any sort of error message?
IMHO 3.9 is a lot better then 3.5. ;)
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It will not run, either from double clicking on a file, or the Multiview Icon, or from CLI. It just sits there - and does nothing, with NO error message at all.
BTW at this point this is just 3.1.
Some else pointed out the Multiview library needs to be installed too, and it wasn't. But with it installed, there is still no action. This is frustrating.
I may try one of the Multiview replacements on aminet......
@ Oldsmobile Mike - I will not argue that 3.9 might be better. But, I don't have 3.9 (and I do have 3.5) I don't know that I can even afford 3.9 right now. I'll keep an eye out though.
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could you copy your startup-sequence here. I bet thats where the problem is.
Also you are using the 3.1 Roms?
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Yep, 3.1 ROMS. I'll put the 2000 back together in a minute, and give you all the startup sequence......
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Launch snoopdos (or dostrace) before you try - it may show what's missing/searched for.
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; $VER: startup-sequence 38.22 (24.4.92)
C:SetPatch QUIET
Version >NIL:
AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21
MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
assign excellence!: Data-Three:excellence!
assign doctools: Data-Three:doctools
IF NOT EXISTS SYS:Fonts
Assign FONTS:
EndIF
BindDrivers
Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
Execute T:M
Delete >NIL: T:M
EndIF
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart
IPrefs
Echo "Amiga Release 2.1. Kickstart $Kickstart, Workbench $Workbench"
ConClip
Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities
IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF
Resident Execute REMOVE
LoadWB
Execute S:WPAssigns
EndCLI >NIL:
Here's the startup sequence. Any ideas?
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I just noticed something. I am missing a few libraries:
intuition.library , gadtools.library, and graphics.library. Could this be the problem? If it is, where do I find these libraries?
I never had a problem with this feature in the past. Why now?
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Those libraries are all built into the ROM, so they're not missing, and it's probably just a version mismatch. Upgrading to Workbench 3.1 would probably fix it.
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Before Iprefs
C:AddDatatypes REFRESH
Otherwise backup the startup-sequence then copy the startup-sequence from your workbench floppy and use that.
I'll try and recreate your problem.
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Seems to be 2.x startup-sequence - don't remember what's changed in 3.x. So do check from your WB floppy.
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I am adding the statement to the startup sequence now. One thing - although the one line says Workbench 2.1, notice the kickstart & workbench numbers. This IS a 3.1 install. Maybe I upgraded it from 2.1 to 3.1 way back when I first got this machine - not sure. I guess I should wipe the drive and start from scratch?
I really do appreciate the help. Many thanks.
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Did you do a fresh install of 3.1? Or upgrade? +1 to doing a fresh install should solve your problem. That's what I always recommend with Window's PC's, you can spend hours troubleshooting an issue, or just wipe the drive and start fresh. "Make it be like it was when it was brand new", that's a line I tell people every day, haha. ;)
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Your startup-sequence is from Workbench 2.1. It's missing the line "C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET"
But your 3.1 upgrade-install isn't correct anyway as it's left the old 2.1 startup-sequence intact. My advice would be to start a fresh from 3.1.
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Thank you all for your thoughts on this. I thought the best way out was a completely fresh install. The only reason I didn't do that at first was the ton of stuff I will have re-install - but that's a small price to get it working right.
So, I'm off to start a fresh install.
Again, thanks to you all.
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All is fine now. I wiped the Workbench partition, re-formatted it, then installed 3.1 from scratch. Now my A2000 boots so fast I can't hit the stop watch fast enough. Damn it's fast! Multiview works. It actually looks like everything works.
So, until I can figure out how to set my "new"CD ROM's SCSI ID, this will do fine.
Does anyone know how to set the jumpers on a Toshiba XM-5401B CD-ROM drive? I've already logged onto the Toshiba forums and asked that question. I'll see what I get back.
Until then, I am actually rather happy with 3.1 OS. I have to re-install some software, but that's a small price for a machine that works this well.
Now I have to get a new PPaint 7.3 package. Glad to see that's back in development......