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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: arkpandora on November 11, 2014, 03:29:30 PM
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Hello! It is seven years since I last used an Amiga, and I am back to discussing the subject.
I remember that the animation of the two cars in the introduction of Accolade's game "The Duel: Test Drive II" is perfect on an OCS Agnus and KS 1.2 Amiga, but also I remember that it jumps at least at one point on any ECS Agnus and KS 1.3 or newer Amiga, even with WHDLoad. Is one of you able to tell me whether it is the OCS Agnus or the 1.2 Kickstart (or both) that is necessary in order that The Duel's side view cars will scroll smoothly?
As I am not good with my hands and my remaining Amiga computers have never been maintained, I am considering buying an Amiga 500 with new capacitors and an HxC floppy drive emulator installed for me, but I need to define its specifications, hence this question.
Thanks for any idea!
Jean
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Hello! It is seven years since I last used an Amiga, and I am back to discussing the subject.
I remember that the animation of the two cars in the introduction of Accolade's game "The Duel: Test Drive II" is perfect on an OCS Agnus and KS 1.2 Amiga, but also I remember that it jumps at least at one point on any ECS Agnus and KS 1.3 or newer Amiga, even with WHDLoad. Is one of you able to tell me whether it is the OCS Agnus or the 1.2 Kickstart (or both) that is necessary in order that The Duel's side view cars will scroll smoothly?
As I am not good with my hands and my remaining Amiga computers have never been maintained, I am considering buying an Amiga 500 with new capacitors and an HxC floppy drive emulator installed for me, but I need to define its specifications, hence this question.
Thanks for any idea!
Jean
Not sure about your question, somebody here might fire up test drive and check for you. If you want to repair your old amigas amigakit can do it for you. There may be other vendors closer to home for you though. Still you can pick up an a500 for like 50 to 70 euros depending on what comes with it.
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Wouldn't the problem be the ECS Denise?
Kickstart 1.2/1.3 would have nothing to do with the frame skipping.
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When i boot td2 from floppy on my basic A500, it runs fine. On my A1200 with 3.1 roms, it gives problems with the sound tracking.
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Hello! It is seven years since I last used an Amiga, and I am back to discussing the subject.
I remember that the animation of the two cars in the introduction of Accolade's game "The Duel: Test Drive II" is perfect on an OCS Agnus and KS 1.2 Amiga, but also I remember that it jumps at least at one point on any ECS Agnus and KS 1.3 or newer Amiga, even with WHDLoad. Is one of you able to tell me whether it is the OCS Agnus or the 1.2 Kickstart (or both) that is necessary in order that The Duel's side view cars will scroll smoothly?
As I am not good with my hands and my remaining Amiga computers have never been maintained, I am considering buying an Amiga 500 with new capacitors and an HxC floppy drive emulator installed for me, but I need to define its specifications, hence this question.
Thanks for any idea!
Jean
Assuming that you are referring to the Start animation and between "runs" animation where a 1/4 screen side view of the car (complete with cool driver wearing shades) moves from right to left (iIrc). Never noticed it stuttering myself. But you've probably hit the nail on the head as the game was quite old and probably optimised for 1.2 and OCS. What it was written on.
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Hello! It is seven years since I last used an Amiga, and I am back to discussing the subject.
I remember that the animation of the two cars in the introduction of Accolade's game "The Duel: Test Drive II" is perfect on an OCS Agnus and KS 1.2 Amiga, but also I remember that it jumps at least at one point on any ECS Agnus and KS 1.3 or newer Amiga, even with WHDLoad. Is one of you able to tell me whether it is the OCS Agnus or the 1.2 Kickstart (or both) that is necessary in order that The Duel's side view cars will scroll smoothly?
As I am not good with my hands and my remaining Amiga computers have never been maintained, I am considering buying an Amiga 500 with new capacitors and an HxC floppy drive emulator installed for me, but I need to define its specifications, hence this question.
Thanks for any idea!
Jean
Sorry if I'm off topic, but I really loved the original Test Drive game on the C64 :-D
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Thank you for each one of your answers!
Sorry if I'm off topic, but I really loved the original Test Drive game on the C64 :-D
So do I. But the Amiga version was impressive too, with its realistic and car-specific performance and multichannel engine sound, and still is with its timeless polished car showcase, dashboard and gas station drawings. Test Drive II added more cars, and a great variety of lovely sunny sceneries, and "the duel", all of which added more spirit and made the game more of a real test drive (minus the duelling reckless driving of course).
Wouldn't the problem be the ECS Denise?
Kickstart 1.2/1.3 would have nothing to do with the frame skipping.
I suppose you mean "ECS Agnus".
When i boot td2 from floppy on my basic A500, it runs fine. On my A1200 with 3.1 roms, it gives problems with the sound tracking.
Do you know the version of your A500's Kickstart and Agnus?
The sound problem is fixed by the WHDLoad install, but not the scrolling problem. Also it's coming back to me that the in-game environment is flickering on some newer hardware, but I don't know which precisely, and unlike the scrolling problem it doesn't arise as soon as ECS Agnus or Kickstart 1.3.
Assuming that you are referring to the Start animation and between "runs" animation where a 1/4 screen side view of the car (complete with cool driver wearing shades) moves from right to left (iIrc).
Yes, I am!
Never noticed it stuttering myself. But you've probably hit the nail on the head as the game was quite old and probably optimised for 1.2 and OCS. What it was written on.
It is not so old (1989): it was a contemporary of Kickstart 1.3.
But maybe not so contemporary with the ECS Agnus: can one of you confirm that the ECS Agnus appeared on the A500 motherboards after Kickstart 1.3, not before? I can't find any release date. It would confirm that the ECS Agnus is the problem, not KS 1.3.