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Title: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: ddniUK on November 02, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
I watched the Amiwest streams, listening intently for any discussion on Timberwolf. I didn't hear any mention of it.

Was it discussed? Was any update or news provided?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: eliyahu on November 02, 2014, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;776537
I watched the Amiwest streams, listening intently for any discussion on Timberwolf. I didn't hear any mention of it.

Was it discussed? Was any update or news provided?
if there was, i didn't hear it. :(

the good news is that odyssey works so well for so many, that the need we had for timberwolf is no longer as strong (at least IMO). that said i know at least one developer who has access to the source code and wants to start working on it again once other amiga-related work calms down a bit.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: Rob on November 02, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;776537
I watched the Amiwest streams, listening intently for any discussion on Timberwolf. I didn't hear any mention of it.

Was it discussed? Was any update or news provided?

Thanks.


I don't recall where I read it but Steve Solie recently said that there wasn't a team assembled and working on it yet.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: eliyahu on November 02, 2014, 09:18:05 PM
@ddniUK

number6 just pointed me to where ssolie was talking about it on AWN (link (http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=39487&forum=2&start=60&viewmode=flat&order=0#743866)):

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Would further funding speed up the process of bringing Timberwolf up to date and ready for release?

Not  at this moment. What I need to do is put together a team to work on it  and I just haven't done that yet. My real life paying job has priority  in these cases...
-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: klx300r on November 02, 2014, 10:41:36 PM
really hope it gets to that next step as Firefox is my preferred IB on my work system.  As it is now it runs good & fast on my X1000 & I can run all my favourite add-ons but occcasionally I'll get 100% CPU usage and temporary hangups.  Was hoping the last 2 years the bros would find time for it but I understand an illness & working on OS4.2 and new drivers for X5000 series would put TW on the back shelf for a while.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: amoskodare on November 03, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
Also, if I remember right SSolie mentioned something like:

In the meantime we have Odyssey, which works great, so there isn't really any big hurry at this point, we have more urgent stuff to fix...

Something like that, I can't find the exact quote right now so take it with a big grane of salt ;)

IIRC
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: TeamBlackFox on November 03, 2014, 05:31:16 AM
Well as an interim, if you want an updated build of Firefox, you can always setup an OpenBSD server and use SSH and AmiCygnix to do a remote X11 session over your LAN.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 03, 2014, 05:31:40 AM
Now just port it to classic systems and we've got ourselves a win.  ;)
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: Yasu on November 03, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
I'm curious, if Timberwolf ironed out it's current bugs and optimised the code so it would be just as stable and fast as OWB: which of the two web browsers would objetively be the better one?
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: eliyahu on November 03, 2014, 02:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yasu;776589
I'm curious, if Timberwolf ironed out it's current bugs and optimised the code so it would be just as stable and fast as OWB: which of the two web browsers would objetively be the better one?
i'd probably argue odyssey, frankly. timberwolf is based on a rather old firefox code base. besides odyssey has an amiga GUI whereas timberwolf doesn't.

that said timberwolf has much better bookmark management, compatibility with firefox addons, is more configurable, etc. so i guess it depends on what you want. for me, if performance/stability were the same, i'd probably stick with odyssey since i prefer having an amiga GUI. but others may feel differently and prefer the additional features timberwolf/firefox offers.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: Yasu on November 03, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Thanks for the clear and nicely argued answer :)
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: ddniUK on November 03, 2014, 03:12:32 PM
One big difference for me is that Odyssey cannot access the Aeon login page, whereas TW can.

Just me?
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: amigakit on November 03, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
Hi

After I spotted your report, I immediately fired up Odyssey on AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6.

I can confirm User Login function works OK here with secure download server.  PMail me so we can work out your access issue.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 03, 2014, 05:09:17 PM
Now that's customer service.  :)
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: SteveH on November 03, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
I'd like to be able to use the Zotero in-browser referencing add-on, which is more likely to work under Timberwolf than Odyssey (it doesn't work on either at present). At the moment, I use both - Odyssey seems to render some sites more accurately but Timberwolf's add-on capability is better.
As the previous posters have said, it depends what you want to do.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: ssolie on November 03, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;776537
I watched the Amiwest streams, listening intently for any discussion on Timberwolf. I didn't hear any mention of it.

Was it discussed? Was any update or news provided?

There was nothing new mentioned about Timberwolf at AmiWest 2014. I don't think the topic even came up... I could be wrong.

My hope is to have an updated Timberwolf to go along with the release of the X5000. We are struggling a bit with the X5000 and AmigaOS at the moment but this is normal for any new system bring up.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: ddniUK on November 03, 2014, 06:36:35 PM
Thanks ssolie.
@amigakit, pm sent.
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: magnetic on November 04, 2014, 12:05:23 AM
this post has been edited for violating our posting guidelines, specifically:
    No trolling.
Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people angry. Substance is the key to not being labeled a troll.

 the poster has been notified by PM.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Timberwolf at Amiwest?
Post by: danbeaver on November 04, 2014, 02:24:21 AM
In my opinion only, Timberwolf is functional enough that it can wait while the other things coming to fruition for the Amiga get worked out.  Personally, I like (and feel comfortable) with the interface and hope that it gets a tune up along the long and winding road in Amiga development.