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Title: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: eliyahu on October 31, 2014, 01:03:44 PM
news from the MUI development team (http://muidev.de):

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New releases of MUI 4.0 for AmigaOS4/PPC and MUI 3.9 AmigaOS3/m68k have  been made available for download on the MUI for AmigaOS development  site.

The MUI 3.9 release for AmigaOS3/m68k is no longer a beta  release, because no severe bugs have been reported since the 2014R2  release.
you can download the releases as of this morning:

MUI 4.0 2014R5 release for AOS4 (PPC) (https://muidev.de/download/MUI%204.0/MUI-4.0-2014R5-os4.lha)
MUI 3.9 2014R3 release for AOS3 (68K) (https://muidev.de/download/MUI%203.9%20-%20AmigaOS3-m68k/MUI-3.9-2014R3-os3.lha)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: amigakit on October 31, 2014, 01:11:48 PM
Really good news
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: klx300r on October 31, 2014, 01:22:07 PM
I'm assuming we'll be getting the OS4.1 update via AmiUpdate soon ?
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: eliyahu on October 31, 2014, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: klx300r;776262
I'm assuming we'll be getting the OS4.1 update via AmiUpdate soon ?
dunno; they usually update their amiupdate entry soon after the release on their website, but honestly i'm more interested in the release for 68K machines. the initial release earlier this year was rather buggy and folks even had basic installation issues. i hope that's been ironed out.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: klx300r on October 31, 2014, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;776264
dunno; they usually update their amiupdate entry soon after the release on their website, but honestly i'm more interested in the release for 68K machines. the initial release earlier this year was rather buggy and folks even had basic installation issues. i hope that's been ironed out.

-- eliyahu

strange had no issues at all with the last release on both my 1200 desktop with 1d4 MB and my 1200T with 2B MB? anyhow always exciting getting new MUI updates for our classics:)
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: eliyahu on October 31, 2014, 02:55:43 PM
@klx300r

looks like the MUI updates just hit amiupdate for AOS4 users a little while ago. you should see it now.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: amoskodare on November 01, 2014, 04:00:20 AM
Great!
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Jeff on November 01, 2014, 05:07:01 PM
I paid for an MUI key months ago. I was sent an email from the author about his machine being down or some such thing. Many months and several emails later, still no key.  Any ideas on how to get the legit key that I paid for?
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Minuous on November 01, 2014, 05:39:29 PM
Sounds like he has scammed you, he could use an emulator if his Amiga is broken. I suggest using ReAction instead, it's better anyway and doesn't need any payments to con artists.
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Jeff on November 01, 2014, 07:26:01 PM
Quote from: Minuous;776401
Sounds like he has scammed you, he could use an emulator if his Amiga is broken. I suggest using ReAction instead, it's better anyway and doesn't need any payments to con artists.


Ok, thank you.
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 01, 2014, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Jeff;776399
I paid for an MUI key months ago. I was sent an email from the author about his machine being down or some such thing. Many months and several emails later, still no key. Any ideas on how to get the legit key that I paid for?

Wasn't this the guy who said his Amiga hard drive died taking with it the software to generate keys, but that if you paid he'd send you a copy of someone else's key? Shouldn't take "several emails", regardless. Just send the darn key and be done with it. :(
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: klx300r on November 01, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: Minuous;776401
Sounds like he has scammed you, he could use an emulator if his Amiga is broken. I suggest using ReAction instead, it's better anyway and doesn't need any payments to con artists.

just to be clear here the exact same thing happened to me & others and this is no scam as the original author is sending out the keys as temporary which are fully functional after he receives payment.  He states this in the email sent with the key.
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: eliyahu on November 01, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
Quote from: Minuous;776401
Sounds like he has scammed you, he could use an emulator if his Amiga is broken.
nah, nothing like that. stefan's key generator was on his classic amiga, and it bit the dust some time ago. that's all. so he's sending out generic keys these days instead. and the long wait on email replies is due to the fact that he's just not as involved as he once was; he's typically traveling as he's an avid cyclist.

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I suggest using ReAction instead, it's better anyway and doesn't need any payments to con artists.
careful now. them's fightin' words 'round here! :lol:

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Minuous on November 01, 2014, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;776433
nah, nothing like that. stefan's key generator was on his classic amiga, and it bit the dust some time ago. that's all. so he's sending out generic keys these days instead. and the long wait on email replies is due to the fact that he's just not as involved as he once was; he's typically traveling as he's an avid cyclist.


careful now. them's fightin' words 'round here! :lol:

-- eliyahu

My understanding is: he seemed pretty quick to take the money, not too busy cycling for that. Also not too busy to release a new version. But didn't send the poster any key, generic or not, and not even the courtesy of a reply. That's fraud, pure and simple. And as I mentioned, if there is a problem with his Amiga he could use UAE.
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: eliyahu on November 01, 2014, 11:19:11 PM
Quote from: Minuous;776436
My understanding is: he seemed pretty quick to take the money, but didn't send the poster any key, generic or not. That's fraud, pure and simple.
the 'taking' of the money is automatic. when he gets back from his trips, he then forwards keys to folks. the issue is also that the key generator is effectively lost at this point. i agree stefan should post something saying that people should expect to wait a while before getting their keys, or at least lower the price, or... anything, really.

i should also point out that stefan is no longer involved in MUI development, even though he receives funds for keys. the current development team are awesome guys, so, let's be careful about throwing around the 'fraud' term. i wouldn't want people to get the wrong idea. that said... yeah, the situation is unfortunate.

@Jeff

i do hope you get your key soon! :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Minuous on November 02, 2014, 12:13:29 AM
>the 'taking' of the money is automatic.

He's obviously set it up previously to be automatic. Automating something doesn't absolve you of responsibility for it.

>when he gets back from his trips, he then forwards keys to folks.

These generic keys that are presumably no different from pirate ones? Why not just use a pirate key in that case? It's not like the registration money goes to the people who actually develop the software anyway. May as well send the money to any other random Amiga user for their pirate key.

>the issue is also that the key generator is effectively lost at this point.

And by this point he has had time to write a new key generator, or change things so that it doesn't automatically take people's money, or change it so it doesn't need a key, or do something else to fix the situation.

>i should also point out that stefan is no longer involved in MUI development, even though he receives funds for keys.

Shouldn't the developers who actually work on the software be the ones getting the money?

>the current development team are awesome guys, so, let's be careful about throwing around the 'fraud' term.

I never said *they* were fraudulent. In fact they must be pretty awesome to do all this work just to line someone *else's* pockets who pretty clearly has left the platform long ago.
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: takemehomegrandma on November 02, 2014, 12:26:54 AM
Quote from: Minuous;776442
Why not just use a pirate key in that case? It's not like the registration money goes to the people who actually develop the software anyway.


Oh man, this is just so good, a real *gem*! :lol: Might just print this out and hang it up on my wall! :D

:roflmao:
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Jeff on November 02, 2014, 01:20:00 AM
My point was that I did get the email saying I could use some other persons key that was supposed to be sent as an attachment. It of course never showed up.  I mainly sent the money to support the programmers. I'll probably never actually "require" it anyway. Thanks for clearing it all up. At least I know what happened.

-Jeff
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: slaapliedje on November 02, 2014, 03:14:09 AM
Didn't they remove the key requirement in 3.9 anyhow?  I managed to buy an MUI key way way back when.  Still have it and MagicWB versions I paid for on my hard drive.

But I would think by now that MUI should just be open sourced, since it's such a required library for the Amiga.

slaapliedje  

P.S. That of course doesn't mean they shouldn't receive donations for putting out new versions.
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: kolla on November 02, 2014, 04:24:50 AM
MUI should be ignored and focus should be on Zune.
Title: Re: MUI4.0 for AOS4 and MUI3.9 for AOS3 Updated
Post by: Minuous on November 02, 2014, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: slaapliedje;776455
it's such a required library for the Amiga.


No, it isn't.