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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Shamron on October 29, 2014, 12:22:14 AM

Title: Amiga client for Windows Home Server
Post by: Shamron on October 29, 2014, 12:22:14 AM
Hi dear fellow Amigaans. :-)

I recently came back to the Amiga after some years being stupid ;-)

I got Amiga 1200, 4000 and a sam440ep.

Having "maxed out" the 1200 and 4000 with mediators and 060's, and finally more or less gotten OWB to work on the sam, i'm getting bored. Not bored, bored, but wondering what i can actually USE the sam for. Sure i can browse MOST pages, unless i resize the window, and until it hangs and i need to restart the Amiga, but i mean, USE. for more than mail and basic surfing.

i would love a bit more modern games, although i use my old ones for colonization and napalm, i got openttd for the sam, which is great, but yeah.. i guess things will be more stable and fun when i get the 4.1 cd i ordered from amikit so i can update this lovely machine. :-)

However, that's not what i was gonna ask now, sorry for that... :-)

I got a Scaleo Home Server running windows home server, and i got my music, documents and movies on it.

I would like to be able to connect to it with my sam, BOTH so i can use it for streaming movies, or at least copy to and from it, but also it has a nice backup function, which i hope but doubt is in any way compatible with the amiga.

Anyone know more about this? the client for the pc is rather small but yeah... anyone know of a port or solution? or if i should forget this before i think more about it? :-D

Sham.-
Title: Re: Amiga client for Windows Home Server
Post by: gregthecanuck on October 29, 2014, 01:11:40 AM
Microsoft has retired the Windows Home Server product line. Really annoying since I use it extensively. Only choice now for same backup support and Windows 8+ support is to go with Server 2012 Essentials which I am in the process of installing.

To address your issues...

BACKUPS: Forget it. You won't see a backup client. There are some nice Amiga utilities to do backups for you. Look at Aminet and also os4depot.net. There is even an S3 client to sync your files to Amazon storage if that floats your boat.

FILE SHARING: You should already have some shared folders on your Home Server set up by default. These will be visible to other PCs in your household. To make these visible to your Sam you will need a SMB/SAMBA client set up to access these shares. I am not sure on the state of the SMB support. Your success may also vary based on the version of Home Server you are running as the protocols have evolved with newer versions of Windows and I don't think the Amiga SMB support has kept up.

Hopefully others will pipe in with more info on backup utilities and more SMB info.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Amiga client for Windows Home Server
Post by: Duce on October 29, 2014, 01:34:44 AM
Used SAMBA for years to connect my various Amiga systems to a WHS server via simple shares, worked fine.

Now using FreeNAS rather than WHS and works just as well.

My backup needs are very simple Amiga side, so I just do a simple complete hard disk copy from my SAM440ep to a designated shared directory on the NAS box once a week via a script and a cronjob.  Takes a couple minutes over gigabit copper.
Title: Re: Amiga client for Windows Home Server
Post by: Shamron on October 29, 2014, 07:44:31 AM
Thanks to both for reply. :-) I have used the WHS v1 since it came on the market. (used to sell them where I worked :-) and all connected to it via gblan. I tried samba before, before 2004 but I found it unstable and a lot of hassle. Is it better now? I can remote control the WHS with rdesktop on my sam440ep, but yeah, easy file sharing... I guess I will look into samba again. :-)

What tools and scripts do you use to backup your amiga?

Thanks. :-D

Sham. -
Title: Re: Amiga client for Windows Home Server
Post by: TeamBlackFox on October 29, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
Back in 2008, when I had my Amiga3000UX still, I had setup an NFS network with a Debian GNU/Linux server running as the NFS server and I ran AmiTCP with an NFS client which allowed remote volume mounting.

Probably easier for the UNIX nerd than Samba, but I've used Samba before and it performs acceptably, if noticeably slower than NFS. There are three problems I can see with using NFS:

You will need a UNIX, BSD or GNU/Linux server, which if you're only used to AmigaOS and Windows, then its going to be a rough road.

Windows XP I remember I was never able to get NFS working properly and securely. Dunno if this plagues Windows 7+

NFSv3 was what I used which, if you don't use a VPN, can be quite insecure for your network as anyone with the same UID you set as the owner of the NFS share can mount and modify your files.

For backups, I manually compressed copies of files for the 3000 I wanted to preserve then dropped it on the NFS share. Probably some sort of cron system for AmigaOS that can do the commands automatically.