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Title: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Mason on October 26, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
Brussels, October 27, 2014

Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce the imminent availability of "AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition" for all supported platforms.

AmigaOS 4.1 was released in September of 2008 and has seen no less than 6 free major updates and at least 81 smaller updates released through AmiUpdate.

New functionality in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Update includes but is not limited to:

- Extended memory functionality (beneficial for all supported platforms even those platforms which cannot be equipped with more than 2GB)
- Most powerful console for AmigaOS
- New Intuition features
- New Workbench features
- Much improved DOS
- New unified graphics library with RTG support which allows for (current and future) very substantial general and platform specific performance optimizations e.g. through the use of on-chip DMA engines (present on recently released hardware going back to the SAM440)
- Updated Python port
- Installation graphics, new icons and back-drops by Martin Merz
- Countless minor updates, new other functionality and bug-fixes.

AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition requires NO previous version of AmigaOS 4.x and is a stand-alone product, quite possibly the most affordable version of AmigaOS ever to be released.

This frees current users of AmigaOS 4.1 to install the original version of AmigaOS 4.1 and subsequently download or apply 6 updates and countless minor updates.

Users are nevertheless recommended to register their copy of AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition on the Hyperion Entertainment website as this will be required for downloading possible future updates and bug fixes.

An updated SDK for developers which exposes all new OS functionality to developers, is being worked on.

Hyperion Entertainment wishes to thank all those developers and contributors who have furthered AmigaOS development over the years and especially those that have worked tirelessly on delivering "AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition" to customers before the end of 2014.

Our thanks go out to all of our supporters and loyal customers who can rest assured that work on AmigaOS 4.2 is ongoing apace albeit somewhat behind schedule due to the fact that substantial time had to be allocated for supporting new upcoming exciting hardware platforms. We appreciate your support!

AmigaOS Final Edition has gone gold and is in production at this time.

Suggested retail price is 29,95 EUR (SRP includes German VAT, may vary depending on your location).
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: danbeaver on October 26, 2014, 09:16:58 PM
Time frame for buying/downloading?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: redfox on October 26, 2014, 09:45:11 PM
Thanks to all involved.  I am looking forward to this update.

---
redfox
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: eliyahu on October 26, 2014, 09:49:21 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;775727
Time frame for buying/downloading?
should be out before the end of the year. the ISOs are being prepped now for the CD printer.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: trekiej on October 26, 2014, 10:01:13 PM
I hope this means more software and hardware.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Duce on October 26, 2014, 10:04:26 PM
How's Final Edition factor in for existing OS4.1 owners?

Example:  I'm a bought and paid for registered user of 4.1 for SAM440ep, running Update 6.  I'll be so bold as to assume I'll simply be able to download Final Edition, is this correct?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: eliyahu on October 26, 2014, 10:32:22 PM
Quote from: Duce;775735
How's Final Edition factor in for existing OS4.1 owners?

Example:  I'm a bought and paid for registered user of 4.1 for SAM440ep, running Update 6.  I'll be so bold as to assume I'll simply be able to download Final Edition, is this correct?
it's a DVD actually, so you'd order it from your local amiga dealer. it's a full OS release, just like AOS4.1 was.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: eliyahu on October 26, 2014, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: trekiej;775734
I hope this means more software and hardware.
dunno, but we need it for personal paint 7.3, the new video players supporting the new radeonHD driver, and it probably will be the baseline requirement for libreoffice and the new AOS4 octamed soundstudio port that A-EON announced at the show.

so things are moving in a positive way. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: trekiej on October 26, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
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Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Duce on October 26, 2014, 10:58:25 PM
I bought 4.1 once, not buying it again for some fancy icons.  4.1 Final Edition should be free to existing registered users.  OS4.1 cost me more than Windows 7 Ultimate did, after all.  It's a full release in the sense of it's got all the updates, I suppose if you split hairs.  It's also a sequential update in the 4.1 chain, a chain I already bought into once.

So I'll have to buy 4.1 Final Edition then 4.2 on top of that when 4.2 is out if I chose to proceed?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Niding on October 26, 2014, 11:04:29 PM
I bought Windows 95, 2000, xp, Vista (came with laptop) win 7 ... I dont expect getting Windows 9 or 10 for free tho.

I own WB 1.3 3.0. 3.1 3.9 and 4.1.

So Im going to gladly pay OS 4.1 FE. It equals a 2-3 pints of beer on a Saturday night.
Put the cost of the OS to what you spend on your day to day, its a laughable low sum of money.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: eliyahu on October 26, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
Quote from: Duce;775742
I bought 4.1 once, not buying it again for some fancy icons.  4.1 Final Edition should be free to existing registered users.  OS4.1 cost me more than Windows 7 Ultimate did, after all.  It's a full release in the sense of it's got all the updates, I suppose if you split hairs.  It's also a sequential update in the 4.1 chain, a chain I already bought into once.

So I'll have to buy 4.1 Final Edition then 4.2 on top of that when 4.2 is out if I chose to proceed?
i understand your viewpoint, but i think you're missing out based on my usage. OS4.1 was released six years ago and we've gotten free updates ever since. this release has enough feature additions, performance and stability improvements, and the like to make it worth the thirty bucks. but that's just me, i guess.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: HammerD on October 27, 2014, 12:38:16 AM
Quote from: Duce;775742
I bought 4.1 once, not buying it again for some fancy icons.  4.1 Final Edition should be free to existing registered users.  OS4.1 cost me more than Windows 7 Ultimate did, after all.  It's a full release in the sense of it's got all the updates, I suppose if you split hairs.  It's also a sequential update in the 4.1 chain, a chain I already bought into once.

So I'll have to buy 4.1 Final Edition then 4.2 on top of that when 4.2 is out if I chose to proceed?

I suspect you will be in the minority.  You can never please everyone.  30 EURO for this update + some new features is worth it IMHO, and as mentioned in the press release is likely the cheapest full release of AmigaOS ever.  But to each his own.  Wait for 4.2 then I guess ;)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Hans_ on October 27, 2014, 01:07:30 AM
Quote from: Duce;775742
I bought 4.1 once, not buying it again for some fancy icons.
There's a lot more too it than just "some fancy icons."

Quote
4.1 Final Edition should be free to existing registered users.  OS4.1 cost me more than Windows 7 Ultimate did, after all.  It's a full release in the sense of it's got all the updates, I suppose if you split hairs.  It's also a sequential update in the 4.1 chain, a chain I already bought into once.
OS4.1 cost you more than Windows 7 Ultimate? You must have gotten a HUGE discount for Windows 7 Ultimate then.

Hans
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2014, 01:29:48 AM
Great News!

Thank you for all of the hard work.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: amoskodare on October 27, 2014, 02:23:19 AM
Hurraaayyyyy, a very appreciated update!!!! :D :D

Looking forward to use the new Console and all other stuff, thank you very much Hyperion :) :)

:pint: :hat: :pint:

Me for myself will be buying 2 copies, one for my Sam440ep-flex and one Classic for my OS4.1 laptop ;) via WinUAE hehe :) without hesitation.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: amoskodare on October 27, 2014, 02:28:46 AM
Hope this low price for AmigaOS 4.1 Final, Full-Install means many more OS sales :) :D

I have no problems paying 2 x 30 bucks, and this, for a superb OS. It is like a couple of beers, 2 snusboxes (Swedish tobacco, or say two packs of smokes) and then eating a Pizza here in Sweden :D

It's just half or a quarter of a night hehe ;)

I pay (times 2) this gladly for our favorite OS and this feature list, eeeasy :) :)


@Hyperion

Keep it going strong and thank you again :) :D
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Duce on October 27, 2014, 02:32:13 AM
Quote from: HammerD;775749
I suspect you will be in the minority.  You can never please everyone.  30 EURO for this update + some new features is worth it IMHO, and as mentioned in the press release is likely the cheapest full release of AmigaOS ever.  But to each his own.  Wait for 4.2 then I guess ;)


That's just my point - who in their right mind is going to shell out even 30e for 4.1 Final Edition when 4.2 is not too far down the road and is also a pay for product coming from 4.1 final update?  Just doesn't make sense if I have to buy 4.2 all over again to keep up to date not far down the line.  In mean, don't get me wrong - the price for 4.1 Final Edition is certainly much better than the 100e or so I paid for 4.1 for my SAM, so there's going to be a lot of first time takers on it, I just don't know why someone like myself would bother.  Can simply wait for 4.2 and save myself the money.

Why would anyone bother?  It's silly - but then again, some people bought Windows ME, and whaddya know, 2 months later they turned around and forked over money for Windows 2000, just so they could say they were running the newest thing on the block...
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: giZmo350 on October 27, 2014, 03:07:54 AM
Well, I'll buy it if for anything else just to set next to my OS3.5 and OS3.9 CDs! Haha... But more than that, to run under emulation with quit a few new enhancements before 4.2 comes out (which BTW I read somewhere is not going to be anytime soon - maybe not even in 2015). I think that if you already own an X500 or X1000 you may not really want or need this final edition if you plan on waiting for 4.2. On the other hand, those that want to run under emulation could start tinkering right away and it includes all the updates. This could also give laptop owners a real opportunity for AmigaOS4 using WinUEA or FS-UAE on Windows and MAC OSX.

Concerning some SAM boards, Another reason to buy this disk is due to a U-Boot update. Acube's SAM computers require a more recent version of the second level bootloader (SLB) than is contained on the original Amiga OS4.1 CD. Meaning, owners of a SAM wouldn't be able to boot from their original CD but would have to download and burn a customized CD image from ACube first. Source: http://www.amigafuture.de/album_pic.php?pic_id=20598

Plus... dang! The price is right! And no new PPC hardware to buy!
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Rob on October 27, 2014, 04:20:56 AM
Quote from: eliyahu;775740
dunno, but we need it for personal paint 7.3, the new video players supporting the new radeonHD driver, and it will be the baseline requirement for libreoffice and the new AOS4 octamed soundstudio port that A-EON announced at the show.

so things are moving in a positive way. :)

-- eliyahu


It's really odd that so much software coming from A-EON will require 4.1FE considering that I keep hearing about this big split and continuing bad blood between Hyperion and A-EON.

You make it sound like they are working together but surely the good people of Moobunny can't be wrong.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: giZmo350 on October 27, 2014, 04:36:36 AM
Quote from: Rob;775774
It's really odd that so much software coming from A-EON will require 4.1FE considering that I keep hearing about this big split and continuing bad blood between Hyperion and A-EON.

You make it sound like they are working together but surely the good people of Moobunny can't be wrong.

I'm fairly sure that Hyperion was at AmiWest 2014.....
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: LoadWB on October 27, 2014, 06:08:52 AM
Quote from: amoskodare;775761
Hope this low price for AmigaOS 4.1 Final, Full-Install means many more OS sales :) :D


I know if AmigaKit can fix my BlizzardPPC I will be purchasing a copy!
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: spirantho on October 27, 2014, 07:20:15 AM
I have no problem paying 30 Euros for this even if only because they deserve it. 30 Euros is (for example) half the price of one PS4 game and yet Hyperion have given us years and years of free updates

30 Euros to show support for the work that Hyperion have continually done even through incredibly stressful times when they could easily have given up and gone to a FAR more lucrative job.

These guys work their backsides off for years, yet people complain they're not doing anything (they obviously have never seen the SVN change logs). They put up with so much FUD and misinformation (some through ignorance, some through malice) from the very group of people they're trying to help.

They're not a charity, nor are they heroes: they're just some guys trying to make a living while doing what they love and are dedicated to. But they've gone through some very lean times like the rest of us and have stuck it through and provided us with an OS they can be proud of, and yet have been sniped at on forums all the while because some would rather the Amiga have no progress at all than go down whatever route they prefer.

We're not a mass-developed OS like Windows. Windows can provide free updates because they keep selling the base OS. AmigaOS is a tiny market, once you've sold a few thousand copies, the amount of sales drop off massively, and yet still people require updates, so still the updates come... even though Hyperion right now are making very little off OS4....

We are so lucky to be having any development at all. I am happy to pay them 30 Euros to keep them going, and maybe even to help give them a Christmas bonus.


Thee are, of course, other companies and organisations for which most of my above text can be applied, but I think Hyperion by far get the most lies and  accusations about them, and yet still here we are with another update with new features, better stability, and perhaps most importantly, new support towards 4.2 which will fully utilise our multi-core machines which are coming out.

Thank you, Hyperion, for giving us Amiga OS 4.

Now please take my 30 Euros.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: kolla on October 27, 2014, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;775779
I know if AmigaKit can fix my BlizzardPPC I will be purchasing a copy!


Hm, does 4.1 run on "Classic"?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: spirantho on October 27, 2014, 08:10:05 AM
Yes, it does.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: amigadave on October 27, 2014, 08:47:00 AM
Quote from: Duce;775762
That's just my point - who in their right mind is going to shell out even 30e for 4.1 Final Edition when 4.2 is not too far down the road and is also a pay for product coming from 4.1 final update?  Just doesn't make sense if I have to buy 4.2 all over again to keep up to date not far down the line.  In mean, don't get me wrong - the price for 4.1 Final Edition is certainly much better than the 100e or so I paid for 4.1 for my SAM, so there's going to be a lot of first time takers on it, I just don't know why someone like myself would bother.  Can simply wait for 4.2 and save myself the money.

Why would anyone bother?  It's silly - but then again, some people bought Windows ME, and whaddya know, 2 months later they turned around and forked over money for Windows 2000, just so they could say they were running the newest thing on the block...

You have some kind of "Crystal Ball" that has told you when AmigaOS4.2 is going to be finished and released???  Can I borrow it for a month to get all the sports results, so I can make enough bets to win a few hundred thousand dollars, then I won't worry about money for a few years.  :)

Seriously, no information has been released on how much work has been completed toward finishing AmigaOS4.2, or how much more work is needed to complete a release version of AmigaOS4.2, so it could be just 2 more weeks, or it might be 2, or more years, before we have the opportunity to purchase AmigaOS4.2.  Do you want to support the continuing development of AmigaOS4.x and be ready for the announced software projects that A-Eon and AmigaKit are sponsoring (such as the port of Libre Office and others), or do you want to wait an unknown amount of time until AmigaOS4.2 is completed and maybe save yourself 30 Euros?  There is no guarantee that AmigaOS4.2 will be a stand alone version, which does not require the purchase of AmigaOS4.1Final Edition, so you may have to purchase it anyway, before 4.2 can be installed.  Bottom line, I think buying AmigaOS4.1FE is a good idea for multiple reasons, but your mileage may vary.  Do what ever you think is best for yourself.:)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Duce on October 27, 2014, 09:34:07 AM
While the patronizing "crystal ball" comments are amusing, I was merely expressing my opinion.  If you find personal value in 4.1 FE, Dave - Godspeed, damn the torpedos, buy it and I sincerely hope you and anyone else who buys it truly enjoys it, but the personal snark could have been left behind, imo.  No offense, man.  I already paid 100e for 4.1 and it'll suit my purposes until 4.2 comes out.  Last copy of W7 I bought was $59.

I don't purchase in order revision incremental updates, just as I wouldn't have paid for XP SP1, Vista SP1, W7 SP1, or any other in line, in revision number updates.  Just as I wouldn't have shelled out a dime for 4.1 u1 through u6, they were minimal and incremental at best - again, IMHO.  Again, just personal opinion, and I am sure many people will jump at the 30e offer if it's only to use the OS for emulation.  Unfortunately, I have no interest in PPC Amiga emulation on commodity hardware, I've had a SAM 440 sitting beside me for the last 6 years.  Personal choice is a wonderful thing, and that's something we can all agree on I'm sure.

4.2 might come within 2 months, or it might not be here until Q1 2018 for all I know.  In fact, if I had this mystical crystal ball you mentioned, I'd probably have more value for FE than I do.  I'd know that 4.2 is either 6 months or 2 years away, and in the latter, 30e for FE would be money well spent in the interim.  But 4.2 might be 4 months away for all I know, and I don't like buying things twice in short succession or having anything remotely resembling recurring payments going on - same reason I don't use "rent to own" subscription software like Office 365 or the Adobe sub suite.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for it so I don't have to spend my money twice if I end up still having my SAM when 4.2 comes out.  Or I'll just stick with my MOS machines and avoid the whole mess :)

Cheers,
Duce
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: amigadave on October 27, 2014, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: Duce;775795
While the patronizing "crystal ball" comments are amusing, I was merely expressing my opinion.  If you find personal value in 4.1 FE, Dave - Godspeed, damn the torpedos, buy it and I sincerely hope you and anyone else who buys it truly enjoys it, but the personal snark could have been left behind, imo.  No offense, man.  I already paid 100e for 4.1 and it'll suit my purposes until 4.2 comes out.  Last copy of W7 I bought was $59.

I don't purchase in order revision incremental updates, just as I wouldn't have paid for XP SP1, Vista SP1, W7 SP1, or any other in line, in revision number updates.  Just as I wouldn't have shelled out a dime for 4.1 u1 through u6, they were minimal and incremental at best - again, IMHO.  Again, just personal opinion, and I am sure many people will jump at the 30e offer if it's only to use the OS for emulation.  Unfortunately, I have no interest in PPC Amiga emulation on commodity hardware, I've had a SAM 440 sitting beside me for the last 6 years.  Personal choice is a wonderful thing, and that's something we can all agree on I'm sure.

4.2 might come within 2 months, or it might not be here until Q1 2018 for all I know.  In fact, if I had this mystical crystal ball you mentioned, I'd probably have more value for FE than I do.  I'd know that 4.2 is either 6 months or 2 years away, and in the latter, 30e for FE would be money well spent in the interim.  But 4.2 might be 4 months away for all I know, and I don't like buying things twice in short succession or having anything remotely resembling recurring payments going on - same reason I don't use "rent to own" subscription software like Office 365 or the Adobe sub suite.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for it so I don't have to spend my money twice if I end up still having my SAM when 4.2 comes out.  Or I'll just stick with my MOS machines and avoid the whole mess :)

Cheers,
Duce

Why is humor from a moderator almost always perceived as "snark", when the same comment from almost any other member would not raise any question regarding the tone of the same comment?

I am sorry if you feel offended in any way, I was simply pointing out the facts that none of us know when 4.2 will come out, or how much of it is completed already, and giving my own personal opinion on why I think buying 4.1FE is a good idea.  I understand your point of view and have no problem with anyone who wishes to wait for 4.2 and NOT purchase 4.1FE, but I also see merit in supporting the developers for the work already done, providing funds to continue current development, and being ready to install the proposed new software projects & ports, that claim to need 4.1FE as a baseline.

Nothing personal or offensive was intended in my post and the Crystal Ball comment was only added in jest to add some humor to my opinions.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: yssing on October 27, 2014, 11:40:09 AM
30EUR for a new AOS version is cheap and I get to support my favorite OS.

Seems like a very good deal for me :)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: ddniUK on October 27, 2014, 11:44:45 AM
I welcome all progress on AmigaOS and am delighted that the Amiwest meeting went well and that there are some new features coming soon.

However AmigaOS4.1FE confuses me a little.
As an AmigaOne X1000 owner, I have already paid for AmigaOS4.1 and AmigaOS4.2.
4.1FE feels like paying again for features that I have paid for already in 4.2.
This annoys me.

Is AmigaOS4.1FE required in order for to make use of the programs announced at Amiwest (Amistore, Mplayer, CANDI, PPAint, etc)?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Wilse on October 27, 2014, 12:20:29 PM
My A1XE still has OS4.0 on it.
Will I be able to buy this and install it for ~30 Euros?
If so it's an absolute bargain and I'll be dusting off the old machine again.

Good news regardless.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Nagasakee on October 27, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;775804
I welcome all progress on AmigaOS and am delighted that the Amiwest meeting went well and that there are some new features coming soon.

However AmigaOS4.1FE confuses me a little.
As an AmigaOne X1000 owner, I have already paid for AmigaOS4.1 and AmigaOS4.2.
4.1FE feels like paying again for features that I have paid for already in 4.2.
This annoys me.

Is AmigaOS4.1FE required in order for to make use of the programs announced at Amiwest (Amistore, Mplayer, CANDI, PPAint, etc)?

I also feel the question should be addressed for X1000 owners. It seems logical to not have them pay for 4.1 Final Edition if they've already paid for 4.2. Anyone know what specifically happens with X1000 owners and 4.1 FE?

PS  had a comment about my own post count, that upon reflection was wrong (a mixup with AW).
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: klx300r on October 27, 2014, 03:48:56 PM
@ spirantho

+ 1,000,000 :pint:
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: eliyahu on October 27, 2014, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;775804
Is AmigaOS4.1FE required in order for to make use of the programs announced at Amiwest (Amistore, Mplayer, CANDI, PPAint, etc)?
great question. the changes to graphics.library (and the rest of the graphics subsystem) and which are included in AOS4.1 FE, are required for at least personal paint v7.3. i believe that anything which will use the new composited video functionality of the new radeonHD drivers also requires the new OS.

i'll let matthew comment on amistore, but i don't think so, as i was able to run recent builds of amistore under AOS4.1u6 on my pegasos2 just fine.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Rob on October 27, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
Quote from: Wilse;775808
My A1XE still has OS4.0 on it.
Will I be able to buy this and install it for ~30 Euros?
If so it's an absolute bargain and I'll be dusting off the old machine again.

Good news regardless.


That's what the official press release from Hyperion says.

"AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition requires NO previous version of AmigaOS 4.x and is a stand-alone product, quite possibly the most affordable version of AmigaOS ever to be released."

"Suggested retail price is 29,95 EUR (SRP includes German VAT, may vary depending on your location)."

http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Wilse on October 28, 2014, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: Rob;775857
That's what the official press release from Hyperion says.

"AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition requires NO previous version of AmigaOS 4.x and is a stand-alone product, quite possibly the most affordable version of AmigaOS ever to be released."

"Suggested retail price is 29,95 EUR (SRP includes German VAT, may vary depending on your location)."

http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/


Great news for Luddites like me.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: VingtTrois on October 28, 2014, 12:24:30 PM
Excellent! I'll buy it!
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: tonyvdb on October 28, 2014, 01:51:34 PM
Would 4.1 be compatible with the Video Toaster Flyer on an A4000d?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: chris on October 28, 2014, 01:53:09 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;775745
i understand your viewpoint, but i think you're missing out based on my usage. OS4.1 was released six years ago and we've gotten free updates ever since. this release has enough feature additions, performance and stability improvements, and the like to make it worth the thirty bucks. but that's just me, i guess.


I agree, although I think what they've called it is wrong and is what is causing this perceived barrier.  When you already own OS4.1, OS4.1FE does not sound like a paid upgrade - it sounds like a version of OS4.1 with all the updates that have already been released.  Even though it has new features, one can't help thinking that this is something which has already been paid for.

They should have called it OS4.1.1, or OS4.1.9 or something.  That way it looks like a new version, rather than just paying again for something we already have.*

* I know we're not doing that, but that's what it looks like on a quick glance.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: kolla on October 29, 2014, 04:43:15 AM
Quote from: spirantho;775788
Yes, it does.


Meaning it will also run in UAE these days? Well, that is interesting.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Duce on October 29, 2014, 06:54:11 AM
Is AmiStore entirely optional in upcoming versions, be it FE or 4.2?

Just curious.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: kamelito on October 29, 2014, 06:58:28 AM
In the video presentation of AMIStore it is written that it's not part of AmigaOS.
Kamelito
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Duce on October 29, 2014, 08:54:03 AM
Super, thanks for the reply!
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: ddniUK on December 01, 2014, 01:46:51 PM
Any updates on the likelihood of Christmas availability of AmigaOS4.1FE ?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: QuikSanz on December 01, 2014, 05:49:12 PM
As I recall they can only number up to AOS5 so if they only call it a new version every .1 they can only upgrade it9 more times! They must charge for every .05 or so.

Chris
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: psxphill on December 01, 2014, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: QuikSanz;778804
As I recall they can only number up to AOS5 so if they only call it a new version every .1 they can only upgrade it9 more times! They must charge for every .05 or so.

Chris

Depends....

AmigaOS 4.11
AmigaOS 4.12
AmigaOS 4.900
AmigaOS 4.2015
 AmigaOS 4.Millenium
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: nicholas on December 01, 2014, 06:50:59 PM
Will the Installation media have all versions of the OS on it or will we have to pay for separate Pegasos II, BPPC, A1 versions?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Rob on December 01, 2014, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: QuikSanz;778804
As I recall they can only number up to AOS5 so if they only call it a new version every .1 they can only upgrade it9 more times! They must charge for every .05 or so.

Chris


There doesn't seem to be limitation or conditions relating to what version numbers they can use.  

The only part relating to version numbers that I can see (I may have missed something) is part d. under definitions.
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d.  "AmigaOS 4" means the Operating System developed by Hyperion and based in part on the Software, including without limitation the Software Architecture of the Software as described in the Documentation, in any version (irrespective of version numbering, e.g., AmigaOS 5).


Perhaps my interpretation is incorrect but it seems to imply that they can used version numbers 5 and beyond.


Quote from: nicholas;778812
Will the Installation media have all versions of the OS on it or will we have to pay for separate Pegasos II, BPPC, A1 versions?


I'm pretty sure it's the same as before so you'd have seperate versions for each platform but it is DRM free so if for example you owned 2 Sam440's you can install it on both systems without restriction.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: eliyahu on December 01, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: nicholas;778812
Will the Installation media have all versions of the OS on it or will we have to pay for separate Pegasos II, BPPC, A1 versions?
there are separate CDs for each platform, but since you have to pay for every machine you have anyway, it doesn't really matter. of course i'd rather there be the ability to purchase a single CD and then licenses on top of that so i don't have piles of CDs about. but then again i suppose not many people have many NG amigas, er, well, um, i don't know. anyway....

there are separate CDs for each platform. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: ddniUK on December 01, 2014, 10:20:46 PM
Right now, there are zero 4.1FE CDs for zero platforms :)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: bbond007 on December 03, 2014, 12:30:54 AM
Quote from: amoskodare;775761
It is like a couple of beers, 2 snusboxes (Swedish tobacco, or say two packs of smokes) and then eating a Pizza here in Sweden :D

not to mention more healthy :)

OK, is this 4.1 FE designed for people to purchase that don't have next gen hardware or BlizardPPC/CyberstormPPC?

Like for example, would this allow me to run it legit of I wanted to do so on my overclocked i5 under UAE?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: LiveForIt on December 03, 2014, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: bbond007;778889
not to mention more healthy :)

OK, is this 4.1 FE designed for people to purchase that don't have next gen hardware or BlizardPPC/CyberstormPPC?

Like for example, would this allow me to run it legit of I wanted to do so on my overclocked i5 under UAE?


WinUAE is not officially supported by Hyperion, if it works or not has to be tested, the different versions of AmigaOS4.1/4.0 did not come out at the same time, make sure to buy the correct version (classic).
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would this allow me to run it legit

If you buy it, you own it, if you do not have BlizardPPC/CyberstormPPC you might need to find the ROM file for that somewhere on the internet, so legal you might get problems with bplan/DCE or some company like that, but I doubt it. Its abandonware the roms are not sold anymore so has no commercial value.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: bbond007 on December 09, 2014, 01:46:26 AM
Quote from: LiveForIt;778911
If you buy it, you own it, if you do not have BlizardPPC/CyberstormPPC you might need to find the ROM file for that somewhere on the internet, so legal you might get problems with bplan/DCE or some company like that, but I doubt it. Its abandonware the roms are not sold anymore so has no commercial value.

At one point I did own a BlizzardPPC with g-rex :)

long time ago :)

They should make it part of Amiga Forever premium or something to get some exposure... but like you say the stupid ROM...
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: rvo_nl on December 09, 2014, 12:16:48 PM
First: I will for sure be purchasing this, to show support and encourage further development.
 
 But I need to know where, when, and if it will work on my Classic Amiga. Is anyone sure of this?
 
 Also, is there anything in it that is not in OS4.1 + update 6? In other words, stuff that is not coming in through AmiUpdate?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: chris on December 10, 2014, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: rvo_nl;779372
Also, is there anything in it that is not in OS4.1 + update 6? In other words, stuff that is not coming in through AmiUpdate?

Yes.

As for whether it will work, if non-FE works, then there's no reason why FE won't.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: rvo_nl on December 10, 2014, 09:33:55 AM
thanks!
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: ddniUK on December 10, 2014, 09:55:09 AM
@Hyperion @Amigakit
Is there any chance of it getting to customers this side of Christmas?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Everblue on December 10, 2014, 02:37:31 PM
Couple of weeks ago Acube told me that Hyperions had shipped the discs to them and were on the way. Maybe that statement was greatly exaggerated.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: ddniUK on December 10, 2014, 02:40:47 PM
@everblue

I suspect your feelings are correct...

Be nice if someone with "authority" would clear things up. My Missus is hoping to spend some Christmas money on me at Amigakit.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Everblue on December 10, 2014, 02:58:08 PM
Well I was planning to buy a Sam460CR... but the more time passes, the less I feel like it.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: apsturk on December 10, 2014, 05:56:49 PM
Yes I know the feeling. I have been trying to buy a sam460 starting in November 2012 and there has been nothing in for the last 25 months. I have contacted them a few times and 1 sam460 came in stock during that time and was sold before I could log on and buy it. Every time they email me back its comming in March then it was May then August then Sep and here we are now 25 months with a web site offering to sell something for two years that they do not have. I think that I am going to support A-EON and not A-Cube as they have done everything that they have said they would. It's just is not professional to advietise some thing that they will not have for two years. It's bad business.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Valiant on December 10, 2014, 06:51:21 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;778824
Right now, there are zero 4.1FE CDs for zero platforms :)


     How do you know?  Right now there could very well be thousands of discs just sitting around waiting for the release...
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Valiant on December 10, 2014, 06:54:38 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;779493
@everblue

I suspect your feelings are correct...

Be nice if someone with "authority" would clear things up. My Missus is hoping to spend some Christmas money on me at Amigakit.


     Someone with "authority" will clear things up...it's called an announcement and I'm sure it won't be made until things are ready to roll.   ;^)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: nyteschayde on December 10, 2014, 08:18:25 PM
The problem with A-EON is that the X1000 is ungodly expensive. I make a very decent salary and it's incredibly hard to justify spending that much on an Amiga and this is coming from someone who owns an A4000D/040, an A1200T/PPC/060 and two other A1200s; all with indivisions and the first two machines completely decked out with mediators, usb and pci cards
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: ddniUK on December 10, 2014, 08:31:21 PM
Your comment is off topic.
AmigaOS4.1 FE is a Hyperion project and has nothing to do with Amigakit or A-Eon.
I am sure that the developers are working tirelessly on it. All I ask is that  hyperion break their long habit of silence and give an updated ETA. This way we can all know if a Chrimbo delivery is possible.

Quote from: nyteschayde;779516
The problem with A-EON is that the X1000 is ungodly expensive. I make a very decent salary and it's incredibly hard to justify spending that much on an Amiga and this is coming from someone who owns an A4000D/040, an A1200T/PPC/060 and two other A1200s; all with indivisions and the first two machines completely decked out with mediators, usb and pci cards
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: nyteschayde on December 10, 2014, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;779519
Your comment is off topic.
AmigaOS4.1 FE is a Hyperion project and has nothing to do with Amigakit or A-Eon.
I am sure that the developers are working tirelessly on it. All I ask is that  hyperion break their long habit of silence and give an updated ETA. This way we can all know if a Chrimbo delivery is possible.


There, deleted it.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: ddniUK on December 10, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
Quote from: nyteschayde;779520
There, deleted it.


No need to have deleted it! I wasn't going to send the rozzers 'round your gaff! lol :laugh1:
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on December 10, 2014, 09:05:10 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;779521
No need to have deleted it! I wasn't going to send the rozzers 'round your gaff! lol :laugh1:

I was going to say "who died and appointed you moderator", but your "rozzers 'round your gaff" comment is absolutely hilarious and made me LOL. Carry on, gentlemen. Thanks for brightening my day! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Faerytale on December 10, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
To be or not to be vaporware! Thats the question!
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition available before the end of 2014
Post by: Iggy on December 11, 2014, 12:49:03 AM
Two weeks, can't you guys be patient?