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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Pete on February 17, 2004, 09:43:02 AM
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I have just bought one of those adaptors off Ebay, most of you will probably have seen it up for grabs. The door bell went at 9am and I recieved it. I wasted no time and tried it out, but the PC monitor is saying: *Attention Signal frequency is out of range, please change signal timing*
Can anyone tell how I'm suppose to do this? I thought you just plugged them in and that was that.
Thanks in advance.
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Whats goin on? Its saying I have 6 replies, but I can't see them!
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Hello,
You still need to select a video mode that is capable of configuring
the correct frequencies for use with a PC/VGA monitor. Try multiscan, DBLPAL,
DBLNTSC or "Euro 72". If you're still having problems, try using the "VGAOnly"
patch (it needs to be in devs:monitors, you may find it in storage/monitors).
For old games and the like, your best bet is a "scandoubler"...that will convert
the standard amiga display frequencies into something compatible with a
VGA monitor.
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Six views not replies. :-)
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Thankyou, but what I am saying is, I plugged the adaptor in and don't even get a choice to do anything; because its not recognising the connection between the two.
I'll tell ya, I should be in the Amiguiness book of records for the person with the most worst luck. Do I need software to build the connection?
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First of all, you have to connect a TV through the RF-connector on the back. Next, you plugin your monitor to the monitor.
Now, you can start the machine, find your way to the poreferences-drawer using the TV, and thenb select the video-mode of choise.
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I plugged the adaptor in and don't even get a choice to do anything; because its not recognising the connection between the two
The connection will be fine. The reason you aren't even getting a choice is because Workbench is booting in an incompatible 15KHz screenmode (compatible with Amiga monitors and TV's, but not with PC monitors), but the daft thing is that you need to be able to see Workbench in order to choose the compatible VGA screenmode in the first place, but since you can't see Workbench, you can't select the screenmode! You might have to run your Amiga through a TV and through the PC monitor at the same time, then select the screenmode on the TV, which should then make it come through the monitor!
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whabang, you beat me to it!
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What would I do without you lot?
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Well you prolly wouldn't use that adaptor :-)
Are you wanting to play games or just use WB apps?
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Yeah, I know they won't let you play games. Its just for apps really. So pray tell, What do I need to be able to play ALL the old faves games on my PC monitor? Do I have to get a scan doubler thingymajig contraption?
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Most games default to the Amiga screenmodes, but most games that play on the workbench screen should work.
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Yup... you need a SD , even better a Scan Doubler / flickerfixer then you have more chance of using the interlaced mode's on WB.
Cheers
Kevin
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Right then, I've decided to once again dip into my credit card and go for it. Can anyone please show/tell me the exact one to get? That is the ficker fixer/scan doubler for my 1200 to PC monitor.
I've seen a few on Eyetech but I don't follow their board setup. I click on a specific information picture and the same picture comes up for loads of stuff. The web site wants some time spending on it as its very poorly presented.
They would have had my custom on lots of occasions only for the website being un-navigable. Maybe if they read this they will make improvements.
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Yes....good question! Can anyone please suggest a good sd/ff that is still commercially available? I am interested in one as well - even if it has to be from eyetech...
I have nothing against eyetech but I have to agree with Pete, this website they have is simply unacceptable - especially for a company that is delivering the next gen amigas....
I would have bought so many stuff off them had it not been for that awful website of theirs....you really have to get into the mindset of the 10-year-old who designed it and even then what you are really buying is almost a guess
I hope they do get their act together soon because I like their stuff
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It seems Eyetech are no longer selling any Scan Doubler/ Flicker Fixers. Where else can you get one of these? Anyone know?
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I got mine from Power Computing.
There are also usually a few on eBay. Search for items worldwide because postage for a SD/FF will be low due to the fact they hardly weigh anything!
As a last resort, you could try an external SD/FF, but these are analogue, whereas internal SD/FF's are digital and therefore much better, if you can get your hands on one. I've heard problems of external analogue SD/FF's "falling out" of tune, and some even take a while to warm up before they'll display a signal!
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i need a converter, my ilyama can handle those low frequencies...
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What Ilyama do you have, just out of interest? Mine's a Vision Master Pro 454 (19") and can't handle Amiga frequencies (at least I don't think it can!).
Steve.
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Quote..... (I need a converter)
Do you mean one of these?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3079345607&category=3544&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1
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Pete wrote:
Do you mean one of these?
That just converts the connector, it doesn't do any scan doubling.. Meaning that you need to set the Amiga to display a VGA mode before you can connect your VGA monitor, also it doesn't work with games.
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So is this the bees knees then? Will this allow me to finally use a PC Monitor using PAL Super High Res Laced with my A1200???? with NO horrible thick black borders? and also allow me to play ALL those old time favourite games. If this is it, then I'm going forrit...
http://www.powerc.com/cgi-bin/psearch.cgi?code=650-0008&rn=205&aid=&uid=ssuwudpB/l4MrEY&sid=&cid=4&act=gpage
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Yes, that is EXACTLY the one that you want!
It's the one that I had too, and it was excellent!
Steve.
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Steven, is there any chance of taking a shot of your monitor screen with your Miggy on? What Screen Mode do you use? I'd like to see how small your icons are.
sthelens@blueyonder.co.uk
Thanx
Pete
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Pete wrote:
Steven, is there any chance of taking a shot of your monitor screen with your Miggy on? What Screen Mode do you use? I'd like to see how small your icons are.
Unfortunately, I don't have my SD/FF anymore, I sold it on eBay, along with my A1200, to finance my CD32 SX32 Pro!
But here's how I set up my A1200's Workbench display with it's SD/FF:
- Set the Workbench ScreenMode to "High-Res Laced", which is 640x512 if I remember correctly (I never use Super-High-Res Laced because it elongates everything!)
- Go into OverScan prefs, and stretch the screen as wide and tall as possible (unlike on an Amiga monitor, the extreme edges of the overscan display should easily be visible on the PC monitor, so that you can see what you're doing). Do the same for both graphics and text.
- Your screenmode will now be something like 710x570, or something "obscure" like that (ie. not a standard size).
- Use the monitor controls to centre the picture.
- Use the monitor controls to adjust the height and width of the display, so that the edges of the Amiga overscan screen are lined up with the edges of the PC monitor.
You will then have the biggest display possible in the highest-resolution! When you play games, you'll have to use your monitor controls to adjust the position, height, and width of each custom screen, but this should only need doing once for each screenmode.
If you want, I'll try and set up WinUAE tonight to mimick what the above screen would look like, so that you can get an idea of icon size, etc. I'll e-mail you a screenshot hopefully later thsi evening.
Steve.
PS. Are you in St Helens? (going by your e-mail address!)
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Yes, well I spent 50 years in Parr, St Helens. But have lived in Ashton-in-Makerfield for a number of years.
Are you anywhere near?
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Pete wrote:
Yes, well I spent 50 years in Parr, St Helens. But have lived in Ashton-in-Makerfield for a number of years.
Are you anywhere near?
I'm sat in an office in Alexandra Park in St Helens, right now, typing this!
50 years?! I think you're giving your age away!
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Then you might like all these photographs I compliled.
I used to run a site www.sthelensphotographs.co.uk with hundreds of old and new photos which took me years to compile, I have climbed almost every high building and tower in St Helens to get these shots.
If you wish to see them all, you have to join the forum. Its the way it is now set up by the admin to get ppl into the forum.
My favourits are the Then & Nows which I did, I advertise the site on my van with photos transfered onto the rear doors.
Enjoy
Pete