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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: AAACHIPSET on October 20, 2014, 08:07:02 AM
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ok i guess ill begin with the card i just got is a wireless pcmcia has prism2.2 drivers ..starting installing got asked what is my main networks name ssid
what is your main networks passphrase..
what is it asking me ..?
im hoping to go step by step to install the internet ..im not a amiga newbie but only ever had my amiga online with dial up so networking is making me a newbie all over again ..
i know about cardreset etc ..just wanna know this card works install its software ..then workout how to connect to the router ..then getting programs miami prob working ..etc.
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ok i guess ill begin with the card i just got is a wireless pcmcia has prism2.2 drivers ..starting installing got asked what is my main networks name ssid
what is your main networks passphrase..
what is it asking me ..?
If you don't know those, I'd suggest you'd google some general information about wlan and basics how it works. Or read your router's manual or something. You can't go setup wireless networks without some kind of basic knowledge.
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The answer is, "42"
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Your SSID is the name of your network you log in to and the passphrase is the password you use to log in. If you use a home network and don't know these, then the walrus and the carpenter shed a bitter tear.
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It may also be asking for the administration password of your router/hub. I'm not sure why it would be, though - when I set my X1000 wireless card up, I only needed to enter the SSID (name of my wifi network) and password.
All these usernames and passwords will have been provided to you by your ISP.
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It may also be asking for the administration password of your router/hub. I'm not sure why it would be, though - when I set my X1000 wireless card up, I only needed to enter the SSID (name of my wifi network) and password.
All these usernames and passwords will have been provided to you by your ISP.
There is never a reason a client device would need administrative access to your router.
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As Dan said, there is never, ever a reason for a network setup utility or TCP stack to be asking for *ANY* wifi modem/router/AP admin login credentials.
When trying to admin it, yes - and by that I mean when you go to configure the Wifi point via a web browser, you will require such info - but never for just network access. Most decent Wifi boxes require a wired connection to config.
I don't wish to sound snarky in the least - and quite honestly, I've been following your threads on your issues with this with great interest, because I love seeing people have their "AHA!" moment while figuring out new technology. But you perhaps might be better served by reading the manuals on the actual networking devices themselves and reading up on basic mechanics of networking and wifi in particular. Again, no offense - but if you don't know what an SSID is, you do need to bring yourself up to speed on the basics.
Best of luck, and holler if you need any help.
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How much do you know about your Wireless LAN?
Is your wireless network secured with WEP or WPA?
Is your wireless network setup to support 802.11b devices?
Amigas don't have much bandwidth so your network, wireless or otherwise will pretty much be limited to around 10Mbps. Adding WEP encryption will slow it down some more.
There are also drawbacks to having an 802.11b (11Mbps) device on your router as with most chipsets/firmware the entire wireless (2.4GHz) network slows down to accommodate the older protocol.
What I did is I bought an old 802.11g/b wireless router on eBay and set it to 802.11b mode only. I did not use WEP or any type of security as it is a bit of a hit & miss with Amiga OS 3.x software. I secured it using MAC address access list which will only allow the network devices I enter.
Unfortunately, networking on the Amiga has never been easy, mostly because network technology keeps moving forward and the Amiga doesn't.
But once you set it up you'll never need to deal with it again. At least until the hardware fails.
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I'm reaching here, but I'm just guessing that questions about what is the SSID and paraphrase might take precedence over the questions just asked about 802.11g/b, WAN WEP, WPA, and bandwidth.
This is only my opinion, mind you.
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Amigas don't have much bandwidth so your network, wireless or otherwise will pretty much be limited to around 10Mbps. Adding WEP encryption will slow it down some more.
He won't see speeds much over 3Mb/s (400KB/s) on a PCMCIA wireless card on the Amiga.
@AAACHIPSET -
First you should add CardReset, found at http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardReset
Then you need to add your SSID and WEP/WPA key to your Startup-sequence (if you got no clue what this is ods are you haven't changed them and you will find them on a label on the modem/router.
So after you added CardReset you should edit your startup-sequence and near the end right before C:LoadWB you should add the following lines
C:CardReset TICKS 50
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID "YOUR SSID HERE" KEY "your WEP/WAP key here"
Remove the quotes and write there then just save and restart. Done.
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Yep, still missing the forest because of all the trees in the way...
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well so many responses ..and opinions ..i did sorta work out what it was asking me ..router info i didnt have...so i decided to try to see if it would accept settings from my mobile broadband on my laptop ..which it did ..but im not sure they are right ...ill work it out ..as u all realized networking isnt my high point..i did check my startup sequence already put cardreset card patch in there when i was playing with a different card ..ive worked out everything else on computers just need to read up on what im doing....couple good bits info here too thanks for that ..
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How much do you know about your Wireless LAN?
Is your wireless network secured with WEP or WPA?
Is your wireless network setup to support 802.11b devices?
Amigas don't have much bandwidth so your network, wireless or otherwise will pretty much be limited to around 10Mbps. Adding WEP encryption will slow it down some more.
There are also drawbacks to having an 802.11b (11Mbps) device on your router as with most chipsets/firmware the entire wireless (2.4GHz) network slows down to accommodate the older protocol.
What I did is I bought an old 802.11g/b wireless router on eBay and set it to 802.11b mode only. I did not use WEP or any type of security as it is a bit of a hit & miss with Amiga OS 3.x software. I secured it using MAC address access list which will only allow the network devices I enter.
Unfortunately, networking on the Amiga has never been easy, mostly because network technology keeps moving forward and the Amiga doesn't.
But once you set it up you'll never need to deal with it again. At least until the hardware fails.
i beg to differ, i can set up any network with any compatible card on the amiga is less than 5 minutes in most cases-especially with miamidx. The problem is people usually don't get compatible hardware,the right drivers,or fix the card reset bugs etc.
Rarely do they even take the time to read the docs. If you know something about networking/wireless networking it is usually straight forward. People often insist on buying cheap brand routers and hardware with buggy firmware and run into trouble. I would say 80% of the people i have helped with networking problems over the last 15+ years were because they simply were too lazy to read the docs.
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well so many responses ..and opinions ..i did sorta work out what it was asking me ..router info i didnt have...so i decided to try to see if it would accept settings from my mobile broadband on my laptop ..which it did ..but im not sure they are right ...ill work it out ..as u all realized networking isnt my high point..i did check my startup sequence already put cardreset card patch in there when i was playing with a different card ..ive worked out everything else on computers just need to read up on what im doing....couple good bits info here too thanks for that ..
You will never get anywhere guessing. You need to log into your router and find out ifyou are using WEP,WPA or WPA2 .
Then get the SSID,Password etc and then add the line to the startup-sequence like SOM99 suggested above:
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID "YOUR SSID HERE" KEY "your WEP/WPA key here"
without the quotes of course.
then you should be on your way to get everything else setup.
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well so many responses ..and opinions ..i did sorta work out what it was asking me ..router info i didnt have...so i decided to try to see if it would accept settings from my mobile broadband on my laptop ..which it did ..but im not sure they are right ...ill work it out ..as u all realized networking isnt my high point..i did check my startup sequence already put cardreset card patch in there when i was playing with a different card ..ive worked out everything else on computers just need to read up on what im doing....couple good bits info here too thanks for that ..
Aah, this thread is making my head hurt. Have you ever connected any mobile device to your WiFi Hotspot? A laptop or phone, for example? What's the login name you use? And what's the password? That's all it's asking you. Have you ever connected to WiFi anywhere? Starbucks? Coffee houses? Hotels? You need two basic bits of information for any WiFi, anywhere. The name of the network ("SSID") and the password to connect. If you don't know those, then... yeah... hard to help you. :(
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In Windows it would look like this:
(http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/resources/6A3830F6-1217-493D-B251-AA783844C6BB/win7wireless02.jpg)
You'd just click on the name of your particular network and enter your password to connect. Again, same info as you'll need for your Amiga: the name, and the password. If you're connected with a PC you can easily get your Network Properties through the control panel. This will tell you if you're using WEP, WPA, or WPA2 security, for example.
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Praise the Lord and God Bless! A couple more people who see the Big Picture.
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Focusing only on the SSID and passphrase is the 'Little Picture'.
The Big Picture is AAACHIPSET's entire network and its overall compatibility with the networking inept Amiga computer.
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i beg to differ, i can set up any network with any compatible card on the amiga is less than 5 minutes in most cases-especially with miamidx. The problem is people usually don't get compatible hardware,the right drivers,or fix the card reset bugs etc....
There's more to it than just that. I have worked in networking and I have setup all manner of networks on pretty much every type of system. Despite people's laziness and the lack of compatible hardware, the Amiga is one of the least network friendly systems still in use. No doubt due in large part to development halting in 1993. I applaud all of the 3rd party efforts that have been made since then to help Amigans get on-line, but the proverbial wheel is spinning much too fast for these valiant efforts.
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Any decent wifi AP will handle the Amigas B connection without degrading the rest of the network, Agami. I've seen $15 TP-Link AP's not even stumble at a b connection thrown at it.
Dude needs to actually know what an SSID and a passphrase is before he goes further - harping about how legacy Amiga's don't have gigabit capable nic's and all the woe is me stuff is overkill and not helping this well meaning fellow.
Guy needs to sit down and figure out his network topology and basics. Figure out what his internet connection is, how it's passed downstream to his machines via a router and switch, and how it goes on as a wifi signal.
It's all basic as a fart in the wind to us, but let's have some patience and work him through this.
AAA - who provides your internet connection, and what type is it? What sort of modem did they give you? What device, if not an ISP provided modem/router combo with inbuilt wifi - are you using to provide wifi?
Are you able to use whatever setup you have to provide wifi internet access to other computers and devices? If so, the basics are all the same.
Do you have a DSL / Cable / Etc. Connection? What router? What wifi box, if not built into the provided broadband modem/router/wifi box? Please explain exactly the type of internet connection you have and all the components in it, hardware wise, and we'll have better luck getting you up and moving.
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sorry if making your head hurt mate ..ok got the ssid and the passphrase ..card reset resets the card as i boot up light on light off light on ..my prism2 drivers installed the wireless manager in user startup ..is this correct i thought it should be in startup .using miami it doesnt find the card says card maybe in use ...this will be a long road ..said that before ..but ill continue bit by bit as i understand what im doing ..
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Just FYI, looks like new Prism2 drivers were uploaded to Aminet yesterday. Might not help in your particular case (for which I'd recommend just using a wired connection, while you learn), but always good to have the latest version. ;)
http://aminet.net/package/driver/net/prism2v2
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sorry if making your head hurt mate ..ok got the ssid and the passphrase ..card reset resets the card as i boot up light on light off light on ..my prism2 drivers installed the wireless manager in user startup ..is this correct i thought it should be in startup .using miami it doesnt find the card says card maybe in use ...this will be a long road ..said that before ..but ill continue bit by bit as i understand what im doing ..
1. What WIFI card do you have?
2. Use the newest Prism2 driver. It's version 2.6
Version which you're using now i.e. 1.7 is obsolete and supports only WEP.
Version 2.6 supports WPA/WPA2.
With my TCP/IP stack and Thomson SpeedTouch WIFI card I get 530KB/s via FTP.
I use WPA/TKIP encryption. The Amiga is equipped with Blizz 060.