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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: AAACHIPSET on October 08, 2014, 10:42:34 AM

Title: here i go once more
Post by: AAACHIPSET on October 08, 2014, 10:42:34 AM
well  once  again  i have found another pcmcia  network card  which i have  been assured  will work  with  my  a1200 (3rd  card ) ..i have  high  hopes  this time ..it is  wireless this  time  so  somehow  ill have to  get it to  talk to a non wireless network  or  talk to my laptops  wireless card  that i cant  find  drivers for  now ive  updated it to win 7  from  xp  ..once  i get  it  and  my 1200  says  yes its there  ill no doubt  be asking  lots  questions  ..forgive me in advance  ..but  one day  i will log into  this site  from my 1200 ..i have a dream  ..:>
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: danbeaver on October 09, 2014, 12:05:48 AM
If you plan to use your Win 7 machine to bridge a wired connection to a wireless one on the A1200, then "good luck," "God Bless," and "May the Force be with You!"

An 8-bit Ethernet (hard wired) card is the easiest, but if you use a wireless card then get a Bridge Device (http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR702N-Wireless-Repeater-150Mpbs/dp/B007PTCFFW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1412809213&sr=8-3&keywords=wireless+bridge) to convert to a wireless signal.

Wireless cards on the A1200 have caused tomes to be written on how to get them to work and Amigakit sells EasyNet for this purpose, however you get support from them if you buy the software/hardware combination
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: amiman99 on October 09, 2014, 01:35:56 AM
I have wireless on my A1200 and it wasn't that hard to get it up and running using plain old AmiTCP v3.x.
In reality, I don't use it, it's faster to use CF card to exchange files.
I did it so I see if I can get it to work, because so many have problems.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: danbeaver on October 09, 2014, 03:58:37 AM
Hard to Cerf the web using a CF card, but who am I to judge?
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: amiman99 on October 09, 2014, 05:40:56 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;774695
Hard to Cerf the web using a CF card, but who am I to judge?
I tried with my A1200 and couple of browsers and not very pleasant experience. Even Amiga.org doesn't look good on classic Amiga browsers.
Personally I would use Amigas to get files from Aminet, ftp sites, some Amiga friendly sites, or just chat on IRC, but most sites are not very accessible.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: danbeaver on October 09, 2014, 06:45:05 AM
It doesn't look that good on an A1200 with classic Amiga browsers.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: gertsy on October 09, 2014, 07:44:13 AM
Quote from: AAACHIPSET;774655
well  once  again  i have found another pcmcia  network card  which i have  been assured  will work  with  my  a1200 (3rd  card ) ..i have  high  hopes  this time ..it is  wireless this  time  so  somehow  ill have to  get it to  talk to a non wireless network  or  talk to my laptops  wireless card  that i cant  find  drivers for  now ive  updated it to win 7  from  xp  ..once  i get  it  and  my 1200  says  yes its there  ill no doubt  be asking  lots  questions  ..forgive me in advance  ..but  one day  i will log into  this site  from my 1200 ..i have a dream  ..:>


You can't connect from one wireless endpoint device to another. The protocol doesn't work like that natively. You need a wireless access point to connect to. On your network.

Unless of course you use a crossover wave.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: AAACHIPSET on October 09, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
so  id need  to have a wireless router  ?
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: jj on October 09, 2014, 11:44:37 AM
Basically yes
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: danbeaver on October 09, 2014, 02:22:15 PM
Or -- http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=116
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: Duce on October 09, 2014, 04:49:03 PM
Simplest way would be to just add a cheap WAP (Wireless Access Point) to your existing router/hub/switch.  I've had good luck with the D-Link DAP 1360 on the consumer end, but the much cheaper TP-Link ones work just as well for the most part.  Or simply buy an all in one Ethernet router with wifi built in and skip the WAP portion of it.  I highly recommend any of the ones that are capable of running DD-WRT firmware, like the Linksys WRT54 series.

Creating an ad-hoc network via a Windows PC is not terribly difficult, however.

I find it to be unnecessarily complex, though.  Such ad-hoc networks are more intended for one-off on the fly access, I've always found it extremely redundant to have to have a PC/laptop on at all times to serve out the wifi when a WAP can be found for under $20.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: mrmoonlight on October 09, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: AAACHIPSET;774655
well once again i have found another pcmcia network card which i have been assured will work with my a1200 (3rd card ) ..i have high hopes this time ..it is wireless this time so somehow ill have to get it to talk to a non wireless network or talk to my laptops wireless card that i cant find drivers for now ive updated it to win 7 from xp ..once i get it and my 1200 says yes its there ill no doubt be asking lots questions ..forgive me in advance ..but one day i will log into this site from my 1200 ..i have a dream ..:>

Hi I spent 5yrs trying to get my A1200 on line then I bought a pcmcia network card from good old Amigakit  and Roadshow and was on line quicker than you could make a cup of tea ,certainly the best thing I have ever done and surf the net like a pro,best wisahes Brian.:)
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on October 09, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Quote from: amiman99;774698
I tried with my A1200 and couple of browsers and not very pleasant experience. Even Amiga.org doesn't look good on classic Amiga browsers.
Personally I would use Amigas to get files from Aminet, ftp sites, some Amiga friendly sites, or just chat on IRC, but most sites are not very accessible.

There's a proxy site for amiga.org that works fine on classic Amiga browsers.  Strips out all the unnecessary junk.  I've used it myself many times with iBrowse on my A2000.  Let me know if you can't find it through google, I'll fire the old girl up and pull it off my favorites list.  ;)
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: gertsy on October 10, 2014, 01:08:36 AM
Quote from: Duce;774734
Simplest way would be to just add a cheap WAP (Wireless Access Point) to your existing router/hub/switch.  I've had good luck with the D-Link DAP 1360 on the consumer end, but the much cheaper TP-Link ones work just as well for the most part.  Or simply buy an all in one Ethernet router with wifi built in and skip the WAP portion of it.  I highly recommend any of the ones that are capable of running DD-WRT firmware, like the Linksys WRT54 series.

Creating an ad-hoc network via a Windows PC is not terribly difficult, however.

I find it to be unnecessarily complex, though.  Such ad-hoc networks are more intended for one-off on the fly access, I've always found it extremely redundant to have to have a PC/laptop on at all times to serve out the wifi when a WAP can be found for under $20.


You can "hack" a solution : http://lifehacker.com/5369381/turn-your-windows-7-pc-into-a-wireless-hotspot

If you're technically minded and have a Windows PC with compatible WiFi chip.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: Duce on October 10, 2014, 01:27:19 AM
Having to have a $500 to $2000 laptop powered up and online at all times to serve ad-hoc wifi is a poor solution in the world of $20-$30 N routers and access points.  I prefer wired anyways, esp considering the Amiga doesn't support up to date wireless protocols legacy side.  I'm not running my AP's with WEP or basic WAP, not for any amount of money.

But yes, it's doable without much effort.  A matter of a few clicks, in fact.  But I fear the OP might not have the technical skill for it.

I recommend the OP just gets the EasyNet kit and goes from there.  It works well.

After 3 different failed attempts at what is usually a very easy process for anyone with basic knowledge of the internet, best to keep it simple.  No offense intended.  The EasyNet package is as simple as punching in some numbers.  Long gone are the days of configuring every stinking AmiTCP file via CED.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: gertsy on October 10, 2014, 02:07:12 AM
I agree. But if you have Windows 7 machine handy. And you have the time and find the jounery interesting ;It's an option.
As is a modern smart phone which you can use that as a wireless hotspot.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: Duce on October 10, 2014, 04:29:09 AM
Yeah, it does work just fine and I use ad-hoc wifi networks quite a lot in group situations (meetings out of the office, etc.) when there is no existing wifi hotspot.  Generally just create an ad-hoc wifi AP using my 4g connection of my laptop to serve out wifi to the other people around me.  Easy to do and Google has a plethora of how to's.

Tethering to a MyFi type box or to a cell phone is also pretty dead simple too, but none of these solutions is something I'd use permanently.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: mechy on October 10, 2014, 04:38:52 AM
The latest amiga wireless prism2.2 drivers support wpa/wpa2 with the right card.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: jj on October 10, 2014, 11:55:00 AM
Quote from: mechy;774768
The latest amiga wireless prism2.2 drivers support wpa/wpa2 with the right card.


I cannot imagine how slow that must be on a classic miggy
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: danbeaver on October 10, 2014, 10:30:18 PM
Define "Classic"
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: jj on October 11, 2014, 11:00:45 AM
Not OS4.1 or morphOS
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: AAACHIPSET on October 11, 2014, 12:26:36 PM
Quote from: Duce;774734
Simplest way would be to just add a cheap WAP (Wireless Access Point) to your existing router/hub/switch.  I've had good luck with the D-Link DAP 1360 on the consumer end, but the much cheaper TP-Link ones work just as well for the most part.  Or simply buy an all in one Ethernet router with wifi built in and skip the WAP portion of it.  I highly recommend any of the ones that are capable of running DD-WRT firmware, like the Linksys WRT54 series.

Creating an ad-hoc network via a Windows PC is not terribly difficult, however.

I find it to be unnecessarily complex, though.  Such ad-hoc networks are more intended for one-off on the fly access, I've always found it extremely redundant to have to have a PC/laptop on at all times to serve out the wifi when a WAP can be found for under $20.
thanks  for  that info  ..probably  how  ill  try  to  do it  ..as for  why  i want to go online  with  my 1200  ...why not ??  ..i have usb  so can transfer anything  easily  or  burn a cd i guess ..but  would  be nice  to investigate  any  internet software  on my 1200  ..its  the best  built  1200 i ever had  fastest  most  memory  etc ..ive  had another 1200 online  when i had dial  up  ...but  ive  done  just about all the upgrading i could  do short of being online  ..wonder what facebook would be like?? :>
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: paul1981 on October 11, 2014, 12:47:01 PM
Quote from: JJ;774780
I cannot imagine how slow that must be on a classic miggy


I didn't notice any difference in speed from WEP to WPA2. It's fast on my "Classics" such as A600/030 and A1200/060. I'm sure it would be the same story on an 020 too.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: Duce on October 11, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
Speeds with WAP/WAP2 shouldn't be too bad on an Amiga.  I'd assume it'd be done by hardware in the NIC for the most part.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: jj on October 11, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: Duce;774822
Speeds with WAP/WAP2 shouldn't be too bad on an Amiga.  I'd assume it'd be done by hardware in the NIC for the most part.


Hadn't thought about that :)
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: mechy on October 12, 2014, 01:14:34 AM
Quote from: JJ;774780
I cannot imagine how slow that must be on a classic miggy

it works just fine.
Title: Re: here i go once more
Post by: LoadWB on October 12, 2014, 03:57:25 PM
Quote from: JJ;774780
I cannot imagine how slow that must be on a classic miggy


Actually quite peppy on my 060/50 A1200.  When it works.