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Title: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Cyberus on February 17, 2004, 02:56:34 AM
I'm looking for a full tower case. Doesn't particlarly have to be fancy, but must have lots of drive bays / space. I'm finding it difficult to find many full tower cases on the internet - I've tried dabs and ebuyer, but other than that, I can't get past those bloody annoying online shop portal thingies, like kelkoo. Can anyone recommend a good UK supplier (and anyone not in the UK perhaps you can recommend a make?)

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 17, 2004, 02:58:01 AM
case for what kind of computer?

kgrach

Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Cyberus on February 17, 2004, 03:02:36 AM
I was considering towering my A4000, and was just trying to find out what the likely cost will be.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 17, 2004, 04:24:24 AM
well you are kinda in luck

We are in the middle of designing some really nice cases made for the A4000. Been real buzy but I will try and post some pictures tonight. We already have an extensive variety of A1200 cases. Well 4 styles in a selection of colors for 22 in all but they do represent the most varied collection of A1200 cases yet made.
The A4000 towers besides offering a very well designed case. No PC case hackem job here. some really inovative design features. These case will offer a ATX to A4000 power adapter with the ability to turn off your A4000 from software. The case is designed smart with the A4000 on the left side of the case so your cards are not hanging upside down and looking for an excuse to become dislodged. The mediator and A4000 tower case of course have the A4000 mounted on the right side on the case. You must specify what type you want when ordering. Again these case will be offered in a wide range of colors and styles NO BORING UGLY BEIGE BOXES here. Did I mention you have the ability to have the backplate completely customized with personal engaving and labled port cutouts.  All for a mere 210 USD
with the current dollar to the pound conversion this is bargain for cases of such quality.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Jeff on February 17, 2004, 04:40:54 AM
I must say from the pictures you sent me I am VERY impressed. This is high quality professional work. Having done numerous tower projects myself, this looks like the way to go. I would LOVE to have one for my A4000D.  Looking forward to more pictures :-).

Jeff
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 17, 2004, 06:44:59 AM
as promised here is a few pictures of some of the new A4000 cases remember these will all be available in 8 diferent colors not just the blue and grey shown and the option of side windows.

http://revanchellc.com/cases/a4000prop.html (http://revanchellc.com/cases/a4000prop.html)

thes will be in several flavors A4000D, A4000T, and mediator variants of above A4000's.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 17, 2004, 09:31:21 AM
I JUST LOVE YOUR WEBSITE/SHOP, BTW.......
Will your cases take a mediator or any other busboard??


Thanks!
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: blakespot on February 17, 2004, 12:39:37 PM
I can vouch for the Revanche cases.  I just put together an A1200 tower that is most impressive to behold.  Shortly, I will post photo pages of the endeavor.  A most preferable alternative to the standad fare of cases out there.


blakespot
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Acill on February 17, 2004, 12:44:53 PM
I'd sure like to have one made that works with an A3000d motherboard and a mediator!! It would sure look better then my ugly Mirage tower case.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: sir_inferno on February 17, 2004, 02:49:27 PM
Quote

kgrach wrote:
as promised here is a few pictures of some of the new A4000 cases remember these will all be available in 8 diferent colors not just the blue and grey shown and the option of side windows.

http://revanchellc.com/cases/a4000prop.html (http://revanchellc.com/cases/a4000prop.html)

thes will be in several flavors A4000D, A4000T, and mediator variants of above A4000's.


sweet as...
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Darth_X on February 17, 2004, 03:23:10 PM
Does anyone know if Gateway acquired the original Amiga case designs in the AmigaInc buyout?
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 17, 2004, 03:45:01 PM
These are made for the straight A4000D and A4000T,The mediator variants and the eagle for now.
The grex desk top will fit into a Standard A4000 case the only one that is a mystery to me is the promethious but if I get enough requests or somebody sends me a prometheous for me to fit into a tower case. Then I will offer them out.

Kgrach
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 17, 2004, 06:47:56 PM
Quote

kgrach wrote:
These are made for the straight A4000D and A4000T,The mediator variants and the eagle for now.
The grex desk top will fit into a Standard A4000 case the only one that is a mystery to me is the promethious but if I get enough requests or somebody sends me a prometheous for me to fit into a tower case. Then I will offer them out.

Kgrach


NICE.............
How much longer will we have to wait???
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: mikeymike on February 17, 2004, 06:50:30 PM
www.cclcomputers.co.uk sell nokia style cases which I've found to be decent in every respect.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: x56h34 on February 17, 2004, 07:36:56 PM
@kgrach:

Your cases look very attractive and I must admit that I would really like to have one of those, however why such a high price? It's about equal to what Elbox is offering. I'd assume if you want to compete with them, you'd lower your price a bit. I'm not convinced to shift from the Elbox standard(s) for an equal price. It's gotta be lower.

What you are offering here is the SAME thing as Elbox, but slightly better looking, for the same price.

My 2 cents, anyways.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 17, 2004, 10:20:32 PM
@x56h34

Thats kinda like saying a Porche cost more than a Yugo.
Elbox standards on thier cases are not that high. Not to fault elbox they did a good job making a simple inexpensive case.
I can make more money selling an Elbox case than my own. Our cases cost more because they cost allot more to make.

If I took a cheap PC case cut a simple strip out the back for the Amiga ports then you could say I am offering the same thing.

These backplates are completely custom. These are SSI version cases not available retail can only be purchased by the container full (270 pieces). The ports on our cases are labled when I say labled I mean engraved and enamel filled. I could save ~$20 on the manufacturing costs alone by cutting this out. I am not into making cheap cases but high quality custom cases
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: x56h34 on February 17, 2004, 11:43:54 PM
I see where you're comming from. Would you be able to produce a cheaper alternative, which would not be as good looking as the cases that you presently have, but still as functional when it comes to G-rex/Mediator fitting? There are a lot of $30 cases which would do the trick.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: ottomobiehl on February 18, 2004, 05:55:52 AM
Quote

kgrach wrote:
as promised here is a few pictures of some of the new A4000 cases remember these will all be available in 8 diferent colors not just the blue and grey shown and the option of side windows.

http://revanchellc.com/cases/a4000prop.html (http://revanchellc.com/cases/a4000prop.html)

thes will be in several flavors A4000D, A4000T, and mediator variants of above A4000's.


Sweet Cases! :-)
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Cyberus on February 18, 2004, 11:49:23 AM
Thanks MikeyMike, that was the kind if info I was looking for.

Those A4000 cases do look nice, however I was hoping to spend quite a bit less than 100 GBP ~ 200 USD, and do the work myself [well, I have a friend who works at a design company (building parts for F1 cars, Airliners etc) and he can cut me a back plate very accurately by machine].
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 21, 2004, 08:00:02 PM
~Quote~
Thats kinda like saying a Porche cost more than a Yugo.
Elbox standards on thier cases are not that high. Not to fault elbox they did a good job making a simple inexpensive case.
I can make more money selling an Elbox case than my own. Our cases cost more because they cost allot more to make.

If I took a cheap PC case cut a simple strip out the back for the Amiga ports then you could say I am offering the same thing.

These backplates are completely custom. These are SSI version cases not available retail can only be purchased by the container full (270 pieces). The ports on our cases are labled when I say labled I mean engraved and enamel filled. I could save ~$20 on the manufacturing costs alone by cutting this out. I am not into making cheap cases but high quality custom cases
~Quote~

Good move! Stick by your guns!!Those of us that payed WAY too much money for our Amigas when they were new know the value of an A4000 versus a Packard Bell '486!!

So... Will they [the A4000 cases] be priced around the A1200 case prices???
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 21, 2004, 08:01:28 PM
This is not a *bump*, BTW

That's next week!!!
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 21, 2004, 10:48:42 PM
Yes I move way too slowly. Updates on the web site will be on the other portions of the site not on the Amiga.
Projects for the agencies have come up and they take precedence because of bread and butter issues.

kgrach

we also seem to be under some kind of assualt.
several different virus email messages in one day from different sources.  not good


Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 22, 2004, 02:01:07 AM
Quote

kgrach wrote:
Yes I move way too slowly. Updates on the web site will be on the other portions of the site not on the Amiga.
Projects for the agencies have come up and they take precedence because of bread and butter issues.

kgrach

we also seem to be under some kind of assualt.
several different virus email messages in one day from different sources.  not good




Sounds good! I'm 'under-employed' at the moment and it would be easier to swing a new case in the VERY near future.
I have your site n my bookmark bar (OSX running Safari, I REFUSE to to windows!)

Sorry to hear about the viri, that will slow you down!! BTW at last count there are 0 viri out under Mac Osx 10.2.3! Its like a cross between Amiga and Linux.
Best of luck, man!
BTW, are you in the US/Canada region?

C.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 22, 2004, 02:18:20 AM
Long Island N.Y. USA
click on directions at the website.
we are located just minutes away from Republic Airport.
come on in and visit we do have a small showroom and stuff.
plenty of doodads and gadgets to play with and purchase.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: TheGoose on February 22, 2004, 03:42:38 AM
Your A1200T cases look awsome, gotta say. but the back panel looks a little crooked for me...

http://www.revanchellc.com/cases/dreamy.html

And will a PPC 603e+ with B-vision fit in there ok?
 
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 22, 2004, 03:48:00 AM
Actually Goose- the picture doesn't seem centered! The case looks fine.
Yellow??
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: TheGoose on February 22, 2004, 04:04:37 AM
no,look at the back panel shot, it's clearly slanted.
From top to bottom, looks like he had to do it that way
for some reason.

And yea, piss yellow!
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 22, 2004, 04:13:00 AM
No problem with a Bvision and a 603e+
all you will need is my ATX to A1200 adapter that will allow you to control the ATX PSU from a straight A1200.
IE a non Mediator or GREX equiped A1200.

also you might want to have a (9 pin)VGA cutout on the back panel added. No charge for upto two additional cutouts.
we could lable it VGA out or BVision or whatever

The backpanel is straight the picture is distorted.
I crushed my olympus digital camera the week before those pictures. So I took them with my sony camcorder which in the widest view has a slight fisheye effect. I am allot of things but as everybody tells me I am no photographer.
In the future I will have somebody that knows what they are doing take the photos. in otherwords anybody but me.

kgrach
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 22, 2004, 04:19:07 AM
Oh I also have matching yellow keyboards and mice.
I don't have matching monitors only Black,Green,Silver, oh and of course Biege/White.

Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 22, 2004, 04:20:46 AM
Awe c'mon....
All of the other pictures turned out great!


I kinda figured it was just distorted!!
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 22, 2004, 04:23:26 AM
ALSO------
I noticed a scanmagic on the A1200 MLB in your photos. I like the option you offer to add up to two cutouts, it'll take that SVGA plug nicely...

BUT-
Will there be adequit room on the interior of your A4000 designed case to string a scanmagic inside? I noticed the A4000 ones seem MUCH bigger...
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: TheGoose on February 22, 2004, 04:32:50 AM
Ok, cool. I'm stupid excited! I had an Infinitiv? tower
long time ago, piece of plastic crap. Only thing good was
the goodies for towering (power, keyboard, ide adaptor)

I later just made my own out of a huge old AT case, but that
looks like hell and that thing is a TANK! I will put the cover on my head to aviod the govenment rays, ya know.

Tell me more about the ATX psu & amiga.

And does anyone make a PC keyboard adapter that will do
multiple keystokes properly? That alone is killing my
Amiga use / enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 22, 2004, 04:50:40 AM
Yes the A4000 cases are much larger than the A1200 cases.

The A1200 models  we currently sell are only 17 inches high but have plenty of room.
you could easily put both the scandoubler, a bvision, a mediator SX and our video switch in our current A1200 cases no problems.
I know people who have.

Since you have both the Bvision and a scan magic you might be interested in one of my Video switchers. It is a completely internal electronics switcher. with 350Mhz of bandwidth assures you no distortion or ringing of your video. All you do to switch video modes is a simple software command or a lighted push button on the case to switch the video. Yes I know it is not listed on the site. I have several thousand items that have to be put up there.
will post soon.

The only A1200 setup that needs a larger case is the ZIV users because the zorro slot standard requires almost 14 inches from back to front for the cards that will get blocked by the drive bays on our current A1200 cases.

The ZIV will be acomodated by our newer A4000/A3000 cases

The Video switch is $80 US
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 22, 2004, 05:13:34 AM
Yea it is called the RAKA we have been making it for dealers for about 8 years now.

The A1200 Cases includes one. it is also offered seperately for all model Amigas.

The keyboard adapter is an old design I made about ten years ago for myself becuase the existing A1200 keyboard MPU IMHO sucked big time and had a rollover problem ("the" comes out "hte" if typed real fast). That is why it clips on the VIA not fitted on the keyboard CPU or the Keyboard membrain slot.
It bypasses the slightly buggy A1200 keyboard MPU. I think later A1200 had this fixed not sure.

It offers 100% compatibility with 100% of all windows Keyboards. The other ones can't say that. You can press as many keys as you want as all are sent. The multimedia keys are sent as two button Amiga combos. example sleep key= Right Amiga + Q. lots of neat keyboard short cuts are built in. F11 & F12= copy and paste.

It also is available in US and European models. So us people in the USA have ALL the keys mapped correctly. US & European Windows keyboards are mapped slightly different.

The A1200 version also has a header so you can plug in the reset button from the case and use it to also reset your A1200.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 22, 2004, 05:18:22 AM
Amazing....
Is there nothing you haven't thought of???
At the time I have no mediator, graphics card, etc...

I just want to take it one step at a time (like the drunks do!) and start with a top-notch tower to put my Emplant, scanmagic, and 4000MLB in.
Next will be a PCI graphics card,
AND then PPC...

The monitor switch sounds very clever, I'd probibly stick with the HW switch versus the SW one as I'd be running Linux on it too and I don't know how the SW would react to that!!
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 22, 2004, 05:53:08 AM
Quote

kgrach wrote:
The keyboard adapter is an old design I made about ten years ago for myself becuase the existing A1200 keyboard MPU IMHO sucked big time and had a rollover problem ("the" comes out "hte" if typed real fast). That is why it clips on the VIA not fitted on the keyboard CPU or the Keyboard membrain slot.
It bypasses the slightly buggy A1200 keyboard MPU. I think later A1200 had this fixed not sure.

It offers 100% compatibility with 100% of all windows Keyboards. The other ones can't say that. You can press as many keys as you want as all are sent. The multimedia keys are sent as two button Amiga combos. example sleep key= Right Amiga + Q. lots of neat keyboard short cuts are built in. F11 & F12= copy and paste.

It also is available in US and European models. So us people in the USA have ALL the keys mapped correctly. US & European Windows keyboards are mapped slightly different.

The A1200 version also has a header so you can plug in the reset button from the case and use it to also reset your A1200.


That is impressive!
NOW if only you could replace the keycaps to make it look like an Amiga keyboard, it would be perfect!  :-D  8-)
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: elendil on February 22, 2004, 07:46:02 AM
@kgrach:

I just wanted to say I think what you are doing is very cool. Very useful hardware that WORKS flawlessly (from what I've heard, I don't have any) is something the amiga world could do with.

I especially like your keyboard adaptor, but as long as this beautiful a4k keyboard lives on, you'll still have one less customer :)

BTW: You people use the abbreviation 'MLB'...for motherboard? How do you reckon that?

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: dewolfjm on February 22, 2004, 01:17:34 PM
I have an A4000 D that has no case (thanks to the carelessness of the previous owner) so am looking for one.  Have the front faceplate but no top.  
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 22, 2004, 02:39:05 PM
Quote

BTW: You people use the abbreviation 'MLB'...for motherboard? How do you reckon that?

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.


Sorry, it's just that MOBO sounds too much like MOFU!
It's an initialism for Main Logic Board, it's used on this side of the pond more than MOBO is!
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: elendil on February 22, 2004, 02:50:36 PM
@Madduck:

Ahh! Main logic board, I see. You learn something new every day :)

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 22, 2004, 10:39:01 PM
Quote
by dewolfjm on 2004/2/22 8:17:34

I have an A4000 D that has no case (thanks to the carelessness of the previous owner) so am looking for one. Have the front faceplate but no top.

yes we will have tower cases for the desktop series.

please stand by
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Cyberus on February 22, 2004, 11:22:53 PM
I guess no one wanted to answer my question then?
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: kgrach on February 23, 2004, 02:11:42 AM
Quote
by Cyberus on 2004/2/22 18:22:53

I guess no one wanted to answer my question then?


sorry about that old boy got a bit off topic my fault

don't know who's in the UK sells the cases you need

I asked my asian source buddy and his comment was not good.

wish I could help.

kgrach
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: Cyberus on February 23, 2004, 02:26:15 AM
Quote

kgrach wrote:
Quote
by Cyberus on 2004/2/22 18:22:53

I guess no one wanted to answer my question then?


sorry about that old boy got a bit off topic my fault

don't know who's in the UK sells the cases you need

I asked my asian source buddy and his comment was not good.

wish I could help.

kgrach


No problems. It wasn't your fault! Those cases look nice and the popularity of this thread shows that there sure is the market for them. Good luck with that.

I guess I was frustrated at the fact that there were so many replies but only one answer to my question! lol.
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: lordnicon on February 23, 2004, 02:27:48 PM
does any one know where i can get a case for mine  :-D a amiga 2000
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 23, 2004, 02:46:56 PM
Sorry bud!
Nobody makes any A2000 cases anymore


BUT!

Why even bother? If I had that much MLB real estate on my A4000, I'd never change a thing! Well except for adding PCI, of course!!
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on February 29, 2004, 10:40:23 PM
So.....
How goes the retrofitting for the A3000 and more importantly the A4000?

Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: QuikSanz on February 29, 2004, 11:54:44 PM
@ MaDDuck,

Not so. A news article here or elsewhere stated that Mr Hardware Computers was launching a new line of "Classic Cases". the response to my E-Mail for an A2000 version was "check back in a couple of weeks".

Chris
Title: Re: Where to buy a case?
Post by: MaDDuck on March 01, 2004, 12:18:00 AM
Quote

QuikSanz wrote:
@ MaDDuck,

Not so. A news article here or elsewhere stated that Mr Hardware Computers was launching a new line of "Classic Cases". the response to my E-Mail for an A2000 version was "check back in a couple of weeks".

Chris


ok..... :-?
I just checked mrharware and saw nothing there.

I was refereing to the cases built by:
http://revanchellc.com/

He makes awesome looking A1200 cases and he's (last I heard) working on some for the A4000 and mediator PCI