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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: slaapliedje on September 15, 2014, 04:29:32 PM

Title: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 15, 2014, 04:29:32 PM
In attempting to get my Amiga to place nice with all the patches, and my FastATA IV, I have decided to attempt to install just the basic OS3.9, up to Boing Bag 3, and get my hardware working, then network.

I have an A4000D with Mediator, Radeon, 10/100 NIC, Indivision, and Spider USB.  Everything is installed and working (well I haven't installed the software for the USB stack yet, and don't have the spider.device in the devs folder).  

The problem I'm having is that any browser (Aweb or iBrowse) starts to act like it's about to load a page, then the computer resets.  Yet I know http works fine, 'cause I can use wget from cli and download files off of Aminet.

Anyone have any clues?  I did (I think) install the MUI 3.9 at some point, but I don't think that would affect Aweb at all (I tried two different versions).  

Did I just miss a setting in Roadshow?

Any help much appreciated.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: Thomas on September 15, 2014, 05:03:59 PM
Can you download an entire web page with wget and then open it locally in a browser? Just to narrow it down. Might not be the network but something else. Datatypes for example.
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 15, 2014, 05:08:04 PM
While I haven't tried that yet (I'll give it a shot when I get home), I do know that Aweb brings up a pretty basic page for it's documents.  But yeah, that sounds like it could be a corrupted datatype.  

Though it gets to the point where it looks like it's going to load a page, then it craps out.  Which is why I was thinking it had something to do with Roadshow itself.  

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 15, 2014, 05:54:50 PM
Agreed.  Try to open a webpage locally.  Good luck!
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 16, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
Hmmm, ibrowse-dev.net apparently works fine in ibrowse.  I downloaded it first, but it actually works over the Internet, since I couldn't quite figure out how to open a local file with ibrowse.  

I'll work on it a bit more today, more likely, and at least try Aweb.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: mechy on September 17, 2014, 02:34:53 AM
Quote from: slaapliedje;773174
Hmmm, ibrowse-dev.net apparently works fine in ibrowse.  I downloaded it first, but it actually works over the Internet, since I couldn't quite figure out how to open a local file with ibrowse.  

I'll work on it a bit more today, more likely, and at least try Aweb.

slaapliedje

you can just drag and drop a local html file into IBrowse and it will open it.
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 17, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
So;

wget http://aminet.net

Drag index.html onto ibrowse.  Boom, crash, flashing power light.

Though it seems when I do the wget on aminet, it's only grabbing the index.html file.  

As far as I can tell, png is the only picture format on aminet, right?  I'll check the png datatype and see what's up with it.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 17, 2014, 05:28:25 PM
D'oh, downloaded http://aminet.net/package/util/dtype/PNGdt44, installed the 060 version and...

same thing, as soon as I try to load up aminet.net, the system crashes.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 17, 2014, 07:13:12 PM
Will it load with images disabled?  Or delete the picture datatype entirely, maybe, to prevent it from loading?  As a last thought, try finding the IMG SRC for just the picture itself, try loading only the picture (without the rest of the web page), does the picture load then?
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: Ancalimon on September 17, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
Have you tried Snoopdos yet?
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 19, 2014, 09:58:16 PM
I'll give it a shot with images disabled, and I'll try grabbing the image directly as well.

SnoopDos!  Forgot about that one, though I wonder if I'll be able to catch it, since the screen pretty much turns black right after I try to open a web page.

Thanks for the suggestions!

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 22, 2014, 05:17:09 PM
SnoopDos didn't really help.  First time I ran it, it complained about missing keys (for mui and ibrowse), which I just hadn't put where they needed to be.  So after that it did complain about some libraries missing (ncc.list or something like that) and then locked up again.   That second time I ran it, it must have tried to overwrite the .log file, but then died 'cause it was blank.

I may just attempt to install ClassicWB again.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 22, 2014, 07:10:14 PM
Quote from: slaapliedje;773674
I may just attempt to install ClassicWB again.

Seems like an awful lot of work. Did you try with images disabled yet?
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 22, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
I haven't yet.  Will give it a go when I get home.  I do at least know that it isn't the png library, as I can open those just fine.

slaapliedje

Disabled images.  Crash happy!  

After making sure the #?.mcc files for mui were in a directory where ibrowse can see them, and everything looked good, I try it again and it crashes.

Gonna try AWeb / SnoopDos and see if it tells me anything more useful.
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on September 23, 2014, 01:28:24 AM
Hmmm, with AWeb, it seems to only lock up, then eventually reboot.

But I did see "IPrefs LockScreen" or something to that effect before it timed out and restarted.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: OS3.9 w/BB3 and roadshow, rebooting when loading web pages.
Post by: slaapliedje on October 12, 2014, 07:27:53 PM
So here's a bit of interesting fun.  I plugged the CF card adapter into my PC and with the latest version of WinUAE (2.9.0 beta 20 released today) I set it up as close to my real Amiga hardware as I could (sweet that the latest version is supporting emulation of the Accelerators), and guess what.  It worked fine.  The only thing the emulator doesn't pick up of course is the FastATA.  

Weird, eh?  Well, I'm going to attempt to throw the latest Amikit for Real on it and see if that makes any difference.

slaapliedje