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Title: Creating Mp3
Post by: Warrent on December 25, 2002, 06:41:54 PM
I would like to create some mp3 files.  I do not know anything about creating mp3, therefore something that is simple to use would be nice.  What would be recommended or should I just forget trying to do it?
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Warface on December 25, 2002, 06:50:33 PM
Aminet, Lame MP3 encoder. Read the docs. It's pretty simple, if the default settings are all right, but you can play with it of course.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: The_Editor on December 25, 2002, 06:55:29 PM
What machine are you using ?

If its x86 then use DbPowerAmp...

Its got a good batch convert proggie.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Castellen on December 25, 2002, 07:55:09 PM
@Warrent:
On 68K AmigaOS I use LAME ver 3.92.
Don't think it's the latest version, but I think the later one was
unstable somehow???

I have the 060 specific version if which i can send if you like.

Usage is simple:
LAME InputFilename.aiff OutputFilename.mp3

That encodes joint stereo at 128k/sec, 44.1kHz, which is standard.
I think it can accept a variety of input file formats, but I use AIFF.
Read the docs for more info on different formats, bitrates, etc.

It's not a fast process, on an 060@50MHz, it takes approx 1 hour to
encode a typical song.  You can run many copies of LAME at the same
time, so just set up lots of seperate encodes and leave it running
overnight.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Warrent on December 25, 2002, 08:30:48 PM
"What machine are you using ?

If its x86 then use DbPowerAmp..."

4000/060.  Still waiting for my XEG4:-)
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Warrent on December 25, 2002, 08:32:48 PM
@ Castellen

"It's not a fast process, on an 060@50MHz, it takes approx 1 hour to
encode a typical song. You can run many copies of LAME at the same
time, so just set up lots of seperate encodes and leave it running
overnight."


Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: The_Editor on December 25, 2002, 08:46:09 PM
Warrent said
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Still waiting for my XEG4


Aint we all !!   ;-)

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It's not a fast process, on an 060@50MHz, it takes approx 1 hour to encode a typical song.



Bloody hell ... 1 hour for ONE song    :-o  I love Amiga as much as the next guy but the ANCIENT bx system I'm running here typically encodes 1 song in about 75 seconds !!   :-o

I think we need the A1-G4 xe.  
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Warrent on December 25, 2002, 09:09:53 PM
"Bloody hell ... 1 hour for ONE song I love Amiga as much as the next guy but the ANCIENT bx system I'm running here typically encodes 1 song in about 75 seconds !!"

I am not sure, but I am now coding a song that is about 3 mintues. It has been about 7 mintues and Lame is saying it is 25% done??

Next ?  Without me looking over the docs, can I code more than one song in the same shell?

Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Paul_Gadd on December 25, 2002, 09:48:37 PM
1 Hour LOL takes here about 12 secs to encode a 4 min song to mp3/ogg/wma directly from cd.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Warrent on December 25, 2002, 10:50:12 PM
@ Paul_Gadd

"1 Hour LOL takes here about 12 secs to encode a 4 min song to mp3/ogg/wma directly from cd."

Humm then you could do about 300 in an hour!!

Oh, where is my XEG4?? I am not sure how much faster it will be, but it will be better than one song per hour I hope.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: on December 25, 2002, 11:00:38 PM
an hour is unacceptable....I'd ditch encoding on that box...
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Paul_Gadd on December 25, 2002, 11:32:55 PM
@Warrent

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I am not sure how much faster it will be, but it will be better than one song per hour I hope.


For that XE machine i would say a mp3 per min or something like that maybe even less,

I use DbPowerAmp but only for ripping audio out of films, for mp3s DbPowerAmp is a slow beast (45 sec to encode just 1 mp3).
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Castellen on December 26, 2002, 12:22:14 AM
@Warrent:
You can run more than one of anything in a shell by sticking "run"
in front of it.

EG:
run lame insong.aiff outsong.mp3

That will spawn a new process for each task.


And yes, I'm sure we're all aware that an hour to encode an MP3 is
slow.  When my PPC card was working it was more like 3-4 minutes/song.
But unfortunately it's no longer working, so I have to use 060 power
instead.

Yes, if I were doing it commercially I'd use something else.  But
since I'm not, and I have HOURS of waiting time at night (I sleep) so
for all I care the computer can take as long as it wants.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: amigau on December 26, 2002, 02:53:28 AM
check out our MP3 page for a great selection of links. .

http://www.amigau.com/c-music/mp3.htm

kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: KrasH on December 26, 2002, 05:08:35 AM
I use Musicmatch on my windblows box. Its pretty easy to use, has CDDB support etc and the settings are alright. Only real problem with it is that it always want's to wait for something when I load it.. damn sluggish. But encoding is pretty good. get 8-12x cd speed for rips on my Athlon 1.33Ghz (so 5 minute song will take about 30-40 seconds or so, whole albums under 10 minutes, tops). That's with the el cheapo free version of musicmatch 7.1 (and 128k bitrate etc).
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: SilvrDrgn on December 26, 2002, 06:05:44 AM
I've used LAME, SecondSpin, and MakeCD on my Amiga, but it takes too long with only the horsepower of the 060.  So, "for faster service" on my Win-DOHS laptop I use AudioCatalyst for the ripping,  LAME for encoding and RazorLAME as a front end to LAME so I can encode batches of .WAV files at once.
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Warrent on December 26, 2002, 06:09:23 AM
@ Castellen

"You can run more than one of anything in a shell by sticking "run"
in front of it.

EG:
run lame insong.aiff outsong.mp3

That will spawn a new process for each task."


Yes, I do know about that.  I was wondering if there was something in the command line of Lame.  Like Lame xxx.file, xxx1.file, xxx2.file ect. and then each of those files would be coded?  I don't see that, so I can use the run and enter the next file.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: ksk on December 26, 2002, 06:48:34 AM
Do those MP3 encoding Amiga apps run on Amithlon or UAE?
How fast is it in about 800Mhz PC?

A friend of mine once said that he can endode MP3's little faster than realtime with his 603/~200Mhz (meaning encoding of 3 minute song in about 3 minutes).

I think that would be enough for Joe Average and for me,  but those accelerators (for my A4k) cost same as A1... I hope to get the latter (and to use the PC in the meanwhile).
Title: Re: Creating Mp3
Post by: Castellen on December 26, 2002, 07:03:49 AM
@ Warrent:

I don't think LAME suports multiple encodes like that.

Your best bet is to try the "Audio Converter" front end on Aminet.
It batch converts whole directories at once.

Never used it for encoding MP3s before as I usually just do small
quantity at once.