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Topic says it all, I'm currently 10 or so kilos overweight and have decided its time for this excess bagage to go. I've cut out all alchohol, almost all take-away food and a lot of meat from my diet. My breakfast now consists of freshly prepared fruit and vegtable juice and dinner consists primarily of fresh fruit and vegtables. So far so good, I've been going for five days now and I've already shed 2 kilos, plus my overall energy levels have increased, wish me luck. :-) :-) :-)
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Yea, don`t forget to exercise too...
The weathers nicer now, get you self out and about.
It is good if you got a hobbie...
One of my hobbies was to go Bill Oddie spotting, He would fly through here, on the way to the shetland islands every summer...
Well it got me out of the house.
Good luck!
[Bill Oddie = ornithologist]
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adz, just watch your carb intake... fruit has carbs they make you fat, just eat meat and dairy they have zero carbs. start with 20 carbs a day, then after 2 weeks of that goto 40 carbs a day, the weight melts off, but you will still be ugly.
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@adz
RUN, RUN you LARDY GIT!!!!
I'll give you a ten second head start, then I'll release the hounds!!
(Repeat on alternate mornings for 30 minutes at a time. The pounds will melt away or be chewed off.)
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adz, don't take meat and so called 'junk-food' out of your diet! That's what life is all about!
Your life will lose all meaning!
My breakfast now consists of freshly prepared fruit and vegtable juice and dinner consists primarily of fresh fruit and vegtables.
:puke:
You'll turn into the sort of nut who lives in nimbin!
Next you'll be telling us that you wear hemp, and have a bong collection!!!
:-P
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iamaboringperson wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that you wear hemp, and have a bong collection!!!
:-P
:lol:
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@fluffy & iama
:lol: :crazy: :roflmao: :crazy: :lol:
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adz wrote:
Topic says it all, I'm currently 10 or so kilos overweight and have decided its time for this excess bagage to go. I've cut out all alchohol, almost all take-away food and a lot of meat from my diet. My breakfast now consists of freshly prepared fruit and vegtable juice and dinner consists primarily of fresh fruit and vegtables. So far so good, I've been going for five days now and I've already shed 2 kilos, plus my overall energy levels have increased, wish me luck. :-) :-) :-)
Good luck, dude!
I'm in the same situation myself: I have about 30 kgs of un-wanted fat. It's not as much as it sounds (I am rater tall, after all), but it has to go according to my doctor. :-D
So far I've started to walk home from work (takes about an hour), I try to take my bike when I'm going somewhere, and I'm cutting out on the junk food.
Hopefully I'll look nice and slim in july! :-D (yeah, right...)
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@adz: good luck! :-)
btw. i just read the "Times are changing Wayne" thread, scary stuff :-o What is going on here :-?
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@whabang & restore2003
Thanks guys :-) :-) :-) , I was trying to figure out how I can incorporate excercise into my daily routine and its a bit tricky, I'd love to walk to and from work, but I work more than 30kms from home. And when I do get home, I'm too tired to even stand up, let alone go for a jog or something.
As for the "Times are changing Wayne" thread, I have no idea wtf is going on there, nor do I want to. Things really did change during my absence.
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Ok, 30 kilometres is little to far to walk, but it would be a nice ride if you get yourself a good bike.
Last summer, I lost 12 kgs in a couple of weeks just by taking the bike instead of the bus. (not to mention that it was actually faster... :-D)
Getting a dog is also quite effective.
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Remember that diets aren't just short term plans. You'll have to keep them up for a good while - even after you've reached your ideal weight - otherwise the weight will just pile back on.
Also exercise has to be an integral part of any diet, or you might find yourself putting weight on, rather than losing it. Do sit-ups and press-ups before you go to bed (30 should do, but you won't be able to do that many at first!). A half-hour daily power walk is also a great workout.
Good luck! It sounds so easy, doesn't it? ;-)
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btw. i just read the "Times are changing Wayne" thread, scary stuff What is going on here
Some lamer venting at Wayne in an idiot-troll way, i.e. making himself look worse than the person he's trying to attack. I have my suspicions of who it is, but I'm saying nothing.
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You know, I had lesson starting at 12:30
I had to get up at 11:15
I managed it to wake up at 11:30 (demanding weekend)
So no breakfast and cycling through the city as fast as you can (I wasn't too late :-)).
It has to be a good diet.
hm, tis now 15:25, still not eaten yet,
Smoking is btw also a good diet tip. You ain't thinking about food then.
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Smoking is btw also a good diet tip. You ain't thinking about food then.
Err, no it's not. Smoking is disastrous for diets.
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Do sit-ups and press-ups before you go to bed (30 should do, but you won't be able to do that many at first!).
Aw, come on! Just because you weigh too much, you don't neccesarily have to be untrained! :-P
/me can do 50...
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KennyR wrote:
Smoking is btw also a good diet tip. You ain't thinking about food then.
Err, no it's not. Smoking is disastrous for diets.
Yes, if you're stopping.
There ARE positive things about smoking, and this is one of them.
Let me sum up the pro's and cons of smoking:
pro's:
- it's good against tension (tension can make you fat, with eating a lot and so)
- it's good when you have to think
cons:
- various health issues
- stench
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Other cons for smoking during diets -
It's an appetite stimulant. Oopsy for a diet.
It decreases energy and makes it harder to exercise.
It makes you die slowly. No use in getting rid of the fat outside if it's clogging your heart.
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KennyR wrote:
Other cons for smoking during diets -
It's an appetite stimulant. Oopsy for a diet.
It decreases energy and makes it harder to exercise.
It makes you die slowly. No use in getting rid of the fat outside if it's clogging your heart.
Harder to exercise, indeed, you're right there, and the die slowly thing too. But it is the opposite of an appetite stimulant. And you lose your taste.
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Trust me speel, if you went to a dietician, the first thing they'd tell you to do is stop smoking. Smoking never helped anyone lose weight. It's great for putting on weight though - whether you're stopping or not.
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Good luck adz
I'm itching to start losing some weight, I'm about 2 stone overwieght at the moment. My diet is great, well balanced, no artifical crap, but I've been unable to excerise for quite some time(and I used to be a very active person)
I'm just waiting for the doctor to give me the all-clear and then I'll be down the pool like a flash, and those 20 mile bike rides will be back on the agenda as will footie and badminton again
*sigh* and to think, some people *Choose* not to exercise.
@Blobrana
Re: you avatar - Did you have a traumatic childhood? ;-)
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Well, I'm not smoking anyway (apart from that I buy so every 3-4 months a box of 10 cigarillos)
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uncharted wrote:
*sigh* and to think, some people *Choose* not to exercise.
Some people have bad experiences about exercise, mainly because of the mentality of it.
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adz, don't take meat and so called 'junk-food' out of your diet! That's what life is all about!
Get rid of the junk food, but not the meat. Like someone else said, it's reducing calories (those that come from carbs) that's important for losing weight, not reducing fat (but if you have a high-fat diet, you should cut down on that too).
Bread, rice and pasta are absolutely sky-high with carbohydrates, so it's more important to cut down on these than it is on steak.
Fruit and vegtebles are relatively low in carbohydrates (and therefore calories), and because they are high in vitamins and minerals, these are good things to eat.
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The problem with cutting down carbohydrates is that you need them - they're the slow burners that keep your digestive system going all day long. Without them you will feel tired, weak - and very hungry. And you'll probably eat lots of sugary foods to get some energy back. Oops - they're high in sugar and fat. Weight piles on again.
The simplest way to diet: use more calories than you eat. That's all. Diet doesn't work on its own, because the body goes into lean burn mode. Exercise doesn't work on its own because you'll feel hungrier and eat what you lose in calories. You need both, and there's really no way (without Atkins or anorexia nervosa) most people will lose weight without both.
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@adz
You can always try what Sorious Samura did.
http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/ethiopia/sorious.html (http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/ethiopia/sorious.html)
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Remember that diets aren't just short term plans. You'll have to keep them up for a good while - even after you've reached your ideal weight - otherwise the weight will just pile back on.
A 2-phase diet is appropriate:
1. Get into shape (burn more calories than you take in)
2. Rest of life (maintain calorie-balance)
Do sit-ups and press-ups before you go to bed (30 should do, but you won't be able to do that many at first!).
This would be like drinking 3 cans of Red Bull before you go to bed! Don't do it! Exercise produces all the hormones that keep you awake. And sleep is very important when you're going through body-changes... feeling tired makes you hungry.
A half-hour daily power walk is also a great workout
Anything that gets your heart going is good... but if you get to the 'zone' then that's much better. This 'zone' is where your body has used up all of its energy stored in muscles and has to start getting it from body fat. This usually happens after 25 minutes and it's at this point where your body is screaming at you to stop, and at this point where you get the benefits to your cardio system (youe heart) and also weight loss.
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The problem with cutting down carbohydrates is that you need them - they're the slow burners that keep your digestive system going all day long. Without them you will feel tired, weak - and very hungry.
A good tip to avoid getting tired is to have a morning and afternoon snack. A cup of tea and an apple is a good choice. Apple's contain slow burning carbs that will see you through the morning/afternoon. I find that citrus fruits (usually an orange) is good for a quick perk up too.
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KennyR wrote:
Remember that diets aren't just short term plans. You'll have to keep them up for a good while - even after you've reached your ideal weight - otherwise the weight will just pile back on.
Also exercise has to be an integral part of any diet, or you might find yourself putting weight on, rather than losing it. Do sit-ups and press-ups before you go to bed (30 should do, but you won't be able to do that many at first!). A half-hour daily power walk is also a great workout.
Good luck! It sounds so easy, doesn't it? ;-)
Thanks :-) :-) :-)...As for keeping up the diet, thats why I'm back where I am now, so far I've tried this twice, each time I've knocked the kilos off, but then I get lazy and stack them back on, I'm going to keep it up this time.
I tried doing sit-ups...err a sit up just then, wasn't a pretty site, funny though. Push-ups I'm ok with, my upper body still has a fair bit of strength, too bad I can't say the same for my lower body, my six pack has become a keg.
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uncharted wrote:
Good luck adz
I'm itching to start losing some weight, I'm about 2 stone overwieght at the moment. My diet is great, well balanced, no artifical crap, but I've been unable to excerise for quite some time(and I used to be a very active person)
I'm just waiting for the doctor to give me the all-clear and then I'll be down the pool like a flash, and those 20 mile bike rides will be back on the agenda as will footie and badminton again
*sigh* and to think, some people *Choose* not to exercise.
@Blobrana
Re: you avatar - Did you have a traumatic childhood? ;-)
Thanks...hope all goes well for you too :-) :-) :-) I'd really love to exercise, its just so hard with my work schedule, so I'll probably go with Kenny's theory. I may also take up swimming on a Saturday morning. Although, in the past I've never had to exercise to loose weight, my problem is that I eat a lot of junk and sit on my backside at work all day, so the kilos tend to pile on.
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(http://home.pacbell.net/fd4film/1a/pizza.jpg)
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
:-P
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smithy wrote:
adz, don't take meat and so called 'junk-food' out of your diet! That's what life is all about!
Get rid of the junk food, but not the meat. Like someone else said, it's reducing calories (those that come from carbs) that's important for losing weight, not reducing fat (but if you have a high-fat diet, you should cut down on that too).
Bread, rice and pasta are absolutely sky-high with carbohydrates, so it's more important to cut down on these than it is on steak.
Fruit and vegtebles are relatively low in carbohydrates (and therefore calories), and because they are high in vitamins and minerals, these are good things to eat.
The diet I am on at the moment has worked in the past without exercise, I just got a tad bit slack and started eating junk again, hence the extra bagage, if I don't do something now, I'll put even more weight on, and I don't want that. Some peoples metabolisms are geared towards a primarily carnivorous diet, some are geared towards a primarily herbivorous diet and others fit somewhere in the middle. Apparently, I'm more herbivorous.
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@Iama
:roflmao:
I'm hungry now :-)
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iamaboringperson wrote:
(http://home.pacbell.net/fd4film/1a/pizza.jpg)
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
:-P
Bastard!!! ;-)
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FluffyMcDeath wrote:
@adz
You can always try what Sorious Samura did.
http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/ethiopia/sorious.html (http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/ethiopia/sorious.html)
Thats a horrible story, but sadly thats the reality of it. We don't realise how lucky we are.
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NoneAtAll wrote:
adz, just watch your carb intake... fruit has carbs they make you fat, just eat meat and dairy they have zero carbs. start with 20 carbs a day, then after 2 weeks of that goto 40 carbs a day, the weight melts off, but you will still be ugly.
no, you silly billy!
it's NOT fruit that will make you fat, it's the EMPTY CARBS in Crap food! and booze.
fruit has anitoxidants that help heal the body. also, you just can't overeat fruit. i mean, fast food is easy to overeat because it doesn't satisfy the bodies nutritional needs. but fruit does.
it's easy. don't eat crap and move that fat ass.
:smack: :whack:
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Fruit (especially kiwi's) are also VERY good against hangovers
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Watch out! another of my favorites!!
(http://www.sciencenews.org/20021214/f2828_385.jpg)
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(http://www.boags.com.au/images/Premium2_800x600.jpg)
One of my favourite no no's :-D :pint:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Fruit (especially kiwi's) are also VERY good against hangovers
i have a better idea: don't drink so much you get a hangover!
I don't!
I've NEVER had a hangover!
I'm perfect! :roflmao: :crazy:
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cecilia wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Fruit (especially kiwi's) are also VERY good against hangovers
i have a better idea: don't drink so much you get a hangover!
I don't!
I've NEVER had a hangover!
I'm perfect! :roflmao: :crazy:
I can't.... I cant't! I always begin relaxed in relaxed pubs and then I meet some friends and then we get a bit more enthusiastic and then we go to the worst pubs in the city and the next morning (ahum, afternoon) it's survival.
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@Speelgoedmannetje
It also helps if you have you a lobotomy..
But like the saying goes:
" i don`t have a drinking problem : i drink - i get drunk - i fall over - no problem..."
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Well, I do not have a drinking problem since I only drink once a month or two months that much. And for the rest I do not drink beer.
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Okay, so before anybody reads this thread and goes way overboard from looking at the advice people on here have posted about cutting out certain things, or severely restricting others, just remember that any nutritionist or doctor worth his salt will tell you that MODERATION in the key.
No, this does not mean in order to eat a balanced meal, you should start adding a salad to your 12oz. steak. :-D
There's nothing wrong with a little glucose as long as you keep it in moderation with everything else.
Now, what all of the carb-this and that- people on here are actually talking about is a foods glycemic index
Glycemic Index of Foods (http://www.weightlossforgood.co.uk/glycemic_index.htm)
Different foods are rated as having different glycemic levels in comparison to glucose (which has been given an arbitrary value of 100). The lower the value, the more time it takes for a given set of carbs to digest.
Ever eaten a meal that was really starch based (pasta, potatoes, etc...) and then gotten really tired a little after? (my friends call this state 'food coma') It's because you're eating food with a really high glycemic level which is being digested VERY fast, and making your blood sugar shoot up, which in turn is making your pancreas overtax itself making insulin, the result is you get sleepy soon after.
Basic point is, food with a low GI level will leave you fuller longer, and you won't need to eat again quite so quickly, plus it's less taxing on your system. It's the only way to reduce your calorie intake and not be STARVING at the same time.
This does NOT mean you should try to cut carbs out of your system, a little bread every day won't kill you, just remember that it's not much of a staple compared to what you might put on your sandwich, so don't count on it to fill you.
One thing you can also do with pasta is to prepare it al dente(not cooked as much, chewy), it isn't a cure all, but it does raise the GI level a bit compared to the way pasta is typically prepared in america anyway.
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it's NOT fruit that will make you fat, it's the EMPTY CARBS in Crap food! and booze.
fruit has anitoxidants that help heal the body. also, you just can't overeat fruit. i mean, fast food is easy to overeat because it doesn't satisfy the bodies nutritional needs. but fruit does.
Actually most fruits are not good for you in large servings, there is WAY too much sugar in them, and many fruits will leave you hungry in a relatively short amount of time. Better to stick with leafy greens(spinach, collard greens, mustard greens, etc...NOT LETTUCE!!!!!) and other vegetables(mushrooms, carrots, bell peppers(any color)), and only have a little bit of fruit, or keep the fruit reserved for snacks.
The fruitarian diet is extraordinarily unhealthy, because fruit doesn't actually have very much of the different kinds of nutritional stuff we need in it, it just so happens that what it does have, it tends to have in abundance.
Apples with the skin are a GREAT source of fiber however, also vitamin C (and A I think, don't remember).
Also when dieting or exercising to lose weight, you should avoid fruit juice at all costs. MUCH better to drink water.
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There seems to be a revival of the war-time rations diet here.
Er, it's similar to the Dole diet (social security).
If you can't find or afford food, then I'm sure that you just shed the pounds...
(http://home.egge.net/~savory/spitfire.jpg)
Handy tips here:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,12816,1115828,00.html (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,12816,1115828,00.html)
:-)
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@adz
Good luck with your diet. I would personally recomend you reconsider your low fat approach, and go low card aka Atkins.
Worked for me, 57 pounds are gone. Never went hungry, ate like a king.
HERE (http://forum.lowcarber.org/) is a great resource. I'd recomend you read Atkins book first if you consider it.
Good luck!
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@Red
Yep! That works fine. However, one should be careful so that your body doesn't take damage, and you shouldn't give the body a shock by cutting the carbs without a ramp-down.
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whabang wrote:
@Red
Yep! That works fine. However, one should be careful so that your body doesn't take damage, and you shouldn't give the body a shock by cutting the carbs without a ramp-down.
If someone's in good health, the low carb induction crash is probably a good thing. I'm not a doctor though, and all diets recomend getting a check up before going on a diet. Just take your doctor's diet recomendation with a grain of salt. Older doctors may try to scare you away from low carb diets, just like they may want to treat you with leeches and bleed you if you are sick.
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Hehe! My doctor recomended a low-everything diet for me. I am to cut all crap totally, and keep the general food consuption low. I also have to walk for at least one hour every day.
So far I have stopped eating candy, and started to excersize. :-D
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So far I have stopped eating candy, and started to excersize.
:nervous:
If my doctor ever told me that I should go on a diet, I would punch him in the head! :-o
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iamaboringperson wrote:
So far I have stopped eating candy, and started to excersize.
:nervous:
If my doctor ever told me that I should go on a diet, I would punch him in the head! :-o
Yeah, how dare he look out for your health, that bastard!
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:lol:
--Edit: I'm more conserned about my mental health! ;-)
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iamaboringperson wrote:
:lol:
--Edit: I'm more conserned about my mental health! ;-)
We're all concerned about that Iama (being a 'titbit' ambiguous)
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@red
Thanks :-) :-) :-) 57 pounds, thats impressive :-o I actually looked at the low carb diet and I know a few people who are on it, but this time round I'm simply going by whats worked for me in the past, the only reason I don't keep the weight off is because I lack the discipline to eat in moderation. At no time do I feel hungry, if anything I feel great (except for the damn cold my kids brought home from school), I have heaps of energy, and the kilos are literally melting off. Plus, with the low carb diet, I have to boot pasta out the door, and coming from an Italian background, that ain't gonna happen. I'm kinda sticking to a vegetarians diet, but with a little meat thrown in.
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@Speelgoedmannetje
:lol:
[Scotland is a lot like nepal and Tibet you know]
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iamaboringperson wrote:
:lol:
--Edit: I'm more conserned about my mental health! ;-)
i think that may be a lost cause!!
:crazy: :roflmao:
(hey i couldn't resist the straight line!)