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Title: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Astral on July 26, 2014, 05:33:30 AM
Ok...ok...I know...it's a long shot. These cards are bloody rare. I've googled, read, investigated, compared...and found a small amount of info here and there. But I'd like some more.

If anyone has any original documentation such as a user manual or similar I would so like to hear from you :) Plus any other good evidence on jumper settings and so on.

I'm trying to work out the 060 upgrade method. And I've got the inkling that it'd be easy to do as well! And also some info on the SCSI board/setup would be great too!

Any help greatly appreciated! :)
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: utri007 on July 26, 2014, 07:54:46 PM
I hate when people don't answer, but you question might be too diffigult. Amiga.resource.cx doesn't know you turbo :( it is BEST resource.
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: hese7 on July 26, 2014, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: utri007;769766
I hate when people don't answer, but you question might be too diffigult. Amiga.resource.cx doesn't know you turbo :( it is BEST resource.


Sure it does: http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/falcon
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Astral on July 26, 2014, 10:42:16 PM
Quote from: utri007;769766
I hate when people don't answer, but you question might be too diffigult. Amiga.resource.cx doesn't know you turbo :( it is BEST resource.


I hate it when you've searched and not found the info you're after. And then you ask a question. And someone gives you an answer. But it's not an answer to your actual question. ;) (please don't take my comment too seriously - I have an odd sense of humour :D).

It'll be a tricky one. They are a genuinely rare card. And so the info I'm after is likely to be even rarer. There would've been very little SCSI adaptors sold. And I have an inkling the 060 upgrade never made it to the market. In saying that if it was going to be a user installed kit, it can't have been that complex. That's why some info on the jumper settings may help narrow things down. I suspect the HD jumpers near the CPU are highly likely to be involved. The CPU socket is already 060 compatible. Ultimately if it was just a jumper change and a CPU change that would be awesome.
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: SACC-guy on July 26, 2014, 11:45:04 PM
@astral
does the install disk at amiga.resource have any docs?
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Astral on July 27, 2014, 12:02:22 AM
Quote from: SACC-guy;769777
@astral
does the install disk at amiga.resource have any docs?


No docs. There's a readme there with info that backs up some of the claims surrounding the card - but nothing definitive.

I have seen in my searching a unit that sold with a printed user manual. I'll try to contact that person too.
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Amiwest on July 27, 2014, 07:48:56 PM
no info on manual for the Falcon -A1200 but found a manual for the WarpEngine -A4000
but I do not think it will be of much use since it does not say 040/060
1st link old request for the manual.
the second link is for the Warp in HTM and third is link for Warp in .pdf

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57233

https://archive.org/details/WarpEngine_Manual_1994_MacroSystem_Development_A3000-A4000

https://ia601705.us.archive.org/14/items/WarpEngine_Manual_1994_MacroSystem_Development_A3000-A4000/WarpEngine_Manual_1994_MacroSystem_Development_A3000-A4000.pdf
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: mechy on July 27, 2014, 08:15:23 PM
Quote from: Astral;769750
Ok...ok...I know...it's a long shot. These cards are bloody rare. I've googled, read, investigated, compared...and found a small amount of info here and there. But I'd like some more.

If anyone has any original documentation such as a user manual or similar I would so like to hear from you :) Plus any other good evidence on jumper settings and so on.

I'm trying to work out the 060 upgrade method. And I've got the inkling that it'd be easy to do as well! And also some info on the SCSI board/setup would be great too!

Any help greatly appreciated! :)

If the card is upgradeable, i suspect it may need a new rom as well as 3.3v regulator similar to the apollo card upgrades(unless its already onboard can be active with just a jumper change).
you could test this by powering the card up and and checking the other jumper pins for 3.3v instead of 5v.
in the worst case if it is a LC chip on board, a safe upgrade would be a 040/40mhz full part to replace it. i think the latest mask is l88m.
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: number6 on July 27, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
@Astral

Another long shot, but you could write to Macrosystems and see if they might have some of their old manuals.

http://www.macrosystem.us/index.php

or Germany direct, where the designer might reside:

http://www.macrosystem.de/de_de/home.html

Good luck.

#6
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Gulliver on July 28, 2014, 02:01:42 AM
Quote from: number6;769819
@Astral

Another long shot, but you could write to Macrosystems and see if they might have some of their old manuals.

http://www.macrosystem.us/index.php

or Germany direct, where the designer might reside:

http://www.macrosystem.de/de_de/home.html

Good luck.

#6

Not that I want to sink your boat, but I have done that in the past with zero success since I had that same accelerator :(
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Astral on July 30, 2014, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: Gulliver;769836
Not that I want to sink your boat, but I have done that in the past with zero success since I had that same accelerator :(


You can try to sink my boat. But that won't happen. I've had a reply! :D

And shared here for all (with permission of cause). I will investigate further based on this info.

The quotes begin...


"Greetings,

The company MacroSystem does not exist any more. But some of the former
developers are now with the new MacroMotion team. I sold Amiga stuff
from 1995-2001 in Austria, but never heard of this board.

I will contact former MacroSystem employees and hope anyone has
informations for you. This may take some days.

Kind regards,

Michael Huebmer
S.H.I.E.L.D. Agency e.U.
http://www.shield-agency.eu"


and then...


"Hello Paul,

as far as I could find out, the Falcon 1240 was a development of the
independent MacroSystem US and has never been seen by MacroSystem
Germany. The former CEO and Tech-Support know this "WarpEngine for
A-1200" only by it´s name. The contact to the producer Bob Tingley was
lost at this time.

Maybe you can find him or the WarpEnging Designer Steven L. Kelsey - but
I don´t even know if anyone at MacroSystem.US knows them nowadays.

Kind regards,

Michael Huebmer
S.H.I.E.L.D. Agency e.U.
http://www.shield-agency.eu"


and then...


"Hello again,

the former MS Germany CEO just added the information, that in the early
Amiga days, the US Distributor of MacroSystem Products was Robert
Tingley with his company "Noahji's", later "DraCo Systems", later
"MacroSystem". He developed Warp Engine and Falcon independently from
MacroSystem Germany and just used the name for these products.

After he vanished - the distribution was switched to Eric Kloor,
building "MacroSystem US".

All information and development documentations of the early products
vanished with Robert Tingley. I don´t think MacroSystem US has any hint
where to find him. :-(

Good luck after all!

Kind regards,

Michael Huebmer
S.H.I.E.L.D. Agency e.U.
http://www.shield-agency.eu"


Can anyone help with knowing the contact details of some of the people mentioned above?
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Gulliver on July 30, 2014, 05:07:02 PM
I am glad you got answers.

I hope it is of any use to you:

Company Name:     MACROSYSTEM DEVELOPMENT, INC.
File Number:     081716
Filing State:     Michigan (MI)
Filing Status:     Automatic Dissolution
Filing Date:     February 16, 1994
Company Age:     20 Years, 5 Months
Registered Agent:     
Robert Tingley
24282 Lynwood, Ste. 101
Novi, MI 48374
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on July 30, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
It's always neat learning a little more about Amiga history, even if you didn't find the answers you were looking for.  Good luck!
Title: Re: User manual info for MacroSystem Falcon 1240/60 accelerator card
Post by: number6 on July 31, 2014, 02:35:29 AM
Quote from: Astral;769942
You can try to sink my boat. But that won't happen. I've had a reply! :D

And shared here for all (with permission of cause). I will investigate further based on this info.

The quotes begin...


"Greetings,

The company MacroSystem does not exist any more. But some of the former
developers are now with the new MacroMotion team. I sold Amiga stuff
from 1995-2001 in Austria, but never heard of this board.

I will contact former MacroSystem employees and hope anyone has
informations for you. This may take some days.

Kind regards,

Michael Huebmer
S.H.I.E.L.D. Agency e.U.
http://www.shield-agency.eu"


and then...


"Hello Paul,

as far as I could find out, the Falcon 1240 was a development of the
independent MacroSystem US and has never been seen by MacroSystem
Germany. The former CEO and Tech-Support know this "WarpEngine for
A-1200" only by it´s name. The contact to the producer Bob Tingley was
lost at this time.

Maybe you can find him or the WarpEnging Designer Steven L. Kelsey - but
I don´t even know if anyone at MacroSystem.US knows them nowadays.

Kind regards,

Michael Huebmer
S.H.I.E.L.D. Agency e.U.
http://www.shield-agency.eu"


and then...


"Hello again,

the former MS Germany CEO just added the information, that in the early
Amiga days, the US Distributor of MacroSystem Products was Robert
Tingley with his company "Noahji's", later "DraCo Systems", later
"MacroSystem". He developed Warp Engine and Falcon independently from
MacroSystem Germany and just used the name for these products.

After he vanished - the distribution was switched to Eric Kloor,
building "MacroSystem US".

All information and development documentations of the early products
vanished with Robert Tingley. I don´t think MacroSystem US has any hint
where to find him. :-(

Good luck after all!

Kind regards,

Michael Huebmer
S.H.I.E.L.D. Agency e.U.
http://www.shield-agency.eu"


Can anyone help with knowing the contact details of some of the people mentioned above?



I find some of the above confusing.
Eric Kloor was CEO Macrosystems U.S. when it WAS called Noahji's. I should know. I have his own personal h/w now.

You might write to Macrosystems U.S. and make it to the attention of Eric Kloor.

#6