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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Desktop Audio and Video => Topic started by: PJHull on July 17, 2014, 03:17:18 PM
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I have created some slides in Dpaint and have started to make a small slideshow/presentation with music in Scala MM400. I want to be able to then give the presentation to someone who has an Amiga but does not have Scala installed in any way. How do I achieve saving my show so as I can just say to them, here you go, watch this?
The final slideshow will be too big for a floppy disk so I will have to get them to place it on their hard drive to watch.
I have no Scala manual so I am looking for someone who has actually done this - I'm not having much luck guessing my way through...
Any advice most welcome, Thanks.
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It sounds like you need Hollywood.
That way you can compile your slideshow to an exe file.
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Never used Hollywood but I could give it a go if I knew where to get it, isn't it a lot more complex than Scala though? I thought Hollywood was more of a programming language.
I would prefer to stick with Scala at this stage as the slide show is almost complete but only if Scala is capable of doing what I want it to do.
I felt sure that Scala had the ability to do this...? Presentations must be transferable to other Amiga's by using the Player surely?
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Not sure where you obtained Scala MM 400 but, my purchased CD (from AmigaKit) has a full manual in "guide" form and the CD also contains ScalaMMPlayer & NightShift. This also from EAB....
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=69684
Well... If you are using WinUAE you could record a video file with the output of the WinUAE screen. WinUAE is able to do this with the Output panel. I have seen some users of this forum saying that have done this already and that works.
More interesting would be if WinUAE could be used like a frame server or could be plugged to one, like is AVISynth used for (http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Main_Page). This way, anyone could make a color-key of the WinUAE video output over a video playing in background.
Then WinUAE could be used for things like movie subtitling, or together with small programs like VirtualDub (http://www.virtualdub.org/) and Avanti/ffmpeg (http://avanti.arrozcru.com/, and http://www.ffmpeg.org/) to make home videos for YouTube, for example. Or even with big programs like Adobe Premiere for feeding it with titles or hand-drawn ANIM animations.
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Interesting points re Winuae and I am using Winuae these days...
My Scala is the floppy version.
Would be great to get the manuals from the CD somehow - guess I could buy it :-(
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Interesting points re Winuae and I am using Winuae these days...
My Scala is the floppy version.
Would be great to get the manuals from the CD somehow - guess I could buy it :-(
Yea, I guess that was my point.... sorry, might not be legal to share the manual as it's still being sold. Good thing is that AmigaKit still has it in stock and then you would have all the available tools that come with the product. :) The WinUAE thing is interesting though!
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=553
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I'd think seriously about buying it if I could establish that it could do exactly what I wanted it to do - it's good that it is still available.
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Scala delivers scala player, a small executable to run scala scripts on target system. It may need to be set as default tool in tooltypes of the project icon. A slideshow should be perfectly doable on a floppy. Scala projects are very small. Btw you can edit and clean up the scripts in a text editor. Hollywood is good but it costs additinal money, the result takes more ram and its an overkill here
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But buying Hollywood you help to support a product which is still being developed.
With the Malibu plugin you can even import Scala scripts and compile them
http://forums.hollywood-mal.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=400&p=1818&hilit=scala#p1818
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But buying Hollywood you help to support a product which is still being developed.
With the Malibu plugin you can even import Scala scripts and compile them
http://forums.hollywood-mal.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=400&p=1818&hilit=scala#p1818
The original poster asks if its possible to make slideshow with scala that fits on a floppy and plays on an amiga out of the box. It is.
Now you come and tell him to buy hollywood to support current development rather than trying to help him and answer his question. Hollywod will not work on an unexpanded amiga without gfx card. Scala will. Please dont convince him he needs an ng system next..
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So?
Supporting Hollywood is still a good idea. Beside I just gave him an alternative to having a player included on floppy discs, since Hollywood can compile for almost any system out there, I still think it is a good alternative.
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There is a free distributable runtime Scala MM300 player on Aminet. Search for scalademo. It is already configured for playback. You just need to drop your script and media files there, and just configure the player´s tooltypes.
It is free and easy :)
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I think that more than hollywood He needs Designer. Its a different product.
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I think that more than hollywood He needs Designer. Its a different product.
Yes he would need both. And Hollywood is not supporting AGA so depending on what his friend is using Hollywood+Designer would not help. He could of course compile it for Windows or Linux instead but I assume that was not the goal :)
Short explanation... Designer is creating a Hollywood script so you need Hollywood installed
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Well, all these new applications are interesting to hear about and I will explore them all in due course but for the time being I have found a solution...
Simple really I suppose but it takes time for me to work things out - I ain't the brightest spark on computers...
I put the Scala Player in the same drawer as my slide show, I also put the System drawer from my Scala hard drive installation in the same drawer, I change the tool type of my slide show script to point to the scala player in the drawer (changed from pointing to where I installed scala on my HD) Then... and this is where I previously made a schoolboy error, I transferred the drawer to my friends laptop making sure that the path is exactly the same as it was on my HD where I created the slideshow... in the system partition in a drawer called "Slideshows" So it mirrors where it was created and resides on my HD (hope this all makes sense but essentially it means the script can find the slide show pages and samples etc...)
Anyway, bang - it works and he does not have Scala installed at all on his hard drive so I think I have got there...
Mind you, the slide show sound samples slow right down on his laptop but I think this is a fault of his crappy machine as the show runs well on my laptop (all this via Winuae)
I am sure that making smaller slideshows and getting them onto a floppy would be better but that brings other challenges. For now I'm happy. This slide show was 11MB in total so I will have to experiment with compressed images and smaller samples next time...
If anyone is interested in the slideshow I will upload it to dropbox at some stage.
Thank you everyone for your help and comments.
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Uploaded my effort to Youtube...
http://youtu.be/Qg6otQaYR78
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well done
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with Dune sample, very nice !
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I did another Slideshow. This time of Frank Zappa - a musician I admired greatly. I have a lot of fun doing these shows but they are not very professional looking I admit - I only do them for my own enjoyment so please forgive the amateurish feel... anyway...
Here it is... http://youtu.be/ai_DKS4R688
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Interesting points re Winuae and I am using Winuae these days...
My Scala is the floppy version.
Would be great to get the manuals from the CD somehow - guess I could buy it :-(
You can have my original ScalaMM400-cd, which includes the manual. For free. I used to do a lot of Scala way back when, but since I kicked out all my classic Amigas in favour of my X1000 I no longer use Scala. Just pm me.
Johan
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sounds awesome - pm on the way!
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Uploaded my effort to Youtube...
http://youtu.be/Qg6otQaYR78
Good Stuff! ;-)
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THe problem iirc with the Scala MM400 cd version is its PAL only! If you have the big box scala mm400 you get a full printed manual. I have MM300 original with 400 upgrade. I used to use SCALA 400 alot for presentations and video installations if you have specific questions I can help. The interface is very intuitive not that hard to figure out.
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I love bukowski man fun slideshow, however I would have used a better font would have looked more polished. (unless u r going for retro look)
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I was going for a bit of a retro look in that one - I think rather than doing the text in Dpaint I will try and do it in Scala for the next show as some of the fonts look less jagged - it's a bit trial and error, some fonts just don't look good and can break up easily in both Dpaint and Scala though.
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Is it possible to type text vertically onto a Scala slide?
How do please?
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hey its been too long for me to remember that. about fonts i'm not sure what you mean by they dont look good cuz scala fonts look awesome on screen?
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Interesting points re Winuae and I am using Winuae these days...
My Scala is the floppy version.
Would be great to get the manuals from the CD somehow - guess I could buy it :-(
I have the CD version at home, but cannot remember that there was a printed manual included when I bought it as an remainder on an Amiga fair here in Cologne around the turn of the millienium.
I will have a look at home and tell you if there is a manual on the CD as .guide or .pdf or so...
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and another...
http://youtu.be/Pkon7RFdArc