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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Retail News / Sales => Topic started by: takemehomegrandma on June 27, 2014, 08:43:51 PM
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News from the MorphOS Team:
"The MorphOS development team is proud to announce the immediate availability of MorphOS 3.6. Delivering one of the most requested features, this new version can now utilize the built-in Wi-Fi hardware in all Apple systems that feature Broadcom's BCM43 chipset. In addition, MorphOS further extends its support of graphics chipsets to include AMD's R400 series by adding compatibility with Radeon X800 PRO and FireGL X3 cards. Moreover, the latest version of MorphOS now enables laptop owners to define custom screen modes and provides default modes for increasingly common high resolution displays.
Improving interoperability and overall convenience, MorphOS 3.6 adds a new SMBFS filesystem handler with 64-bit I/O support for easy file sharing via network storage devices, a new VNC server to control your MorphOS systems remotely or even without a display, and a Synergy client for sharing a nearby mouse and keyboard with any Linux, MacOS or Windows machine that is part of your local network and acts as a Synergy server.
As usual, MorphOS 3.6 includes many more improvements and bug fixes. For a more complete list of all changes, please read our MorphOS 3.6 release notes (http://morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.6).
We strongly urge new users to carefully read our installation (http://www.morphos-team.net/installation) and troubleshooting (http://morphos-team.net/faq) guides before they attempt to install MorphOS for the first time. Existing users can upgrade via the familiar procedure but are encouraged to read the guides as well. MorphOS 3.6 is available for download in our files section (http://morphos-team.net/downloads)."
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Great. The airport extreme support is pretty much appreciated as well as the SMBFS client. Downloading it now.
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So many Improvements (http://morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.6)! :)
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Pegs FTW! ;) :)
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Very nice! Too bad my G5 can't run it though according to the guidelines
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not that i care much, but wasnt there support for sam boards announced? also, strange, this thread was longer few minutes ago:O???
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Oh my... this is just getting better and better. Great news and thank you MorphOS Team!!!
Can't wait to install it on my Peggy and the 1139 ;-)
Cheers,
Dragster
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Holy cat piss batman!
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OOOHHHHH!!! Thats bad ass. SMBFS... I've been waiting for this update.
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Very nice! Too bad my G5 can't run it though according to the guidelines
where does it say that?
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Starting to look really good, a shame nobody is picking up warp3d. I understand that it's old but would still be nice :-)
Still not a fan of Ambient, also is there such a thing as "morphos update"? There's grunch I know but pretty buggy and doesn't always work.
Would be great to be able to update from within MorphOS instead of having to deal with old fashioned discs all the time :-/
Liking the SMBFS though :-)
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where does it say that?
My G5 Quad is not under the supported hardware list. Plus the Radeon I had in it died so I have to default to an NVIDIA I have lying around. Which means no for MorphOS
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Would be great to be able to update from within MorphOS instead of having to deal with old fashioned discs all the time :-/
You can avoid dealing with physical discs, Thomas Rapp described it at MorphZone:
Updating procedure for...
Pegasos (http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=9&topic_id=9199&post_id=100666&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1)
Mac (http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=9&topic_id=9199&post_id=101735&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1)
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You can avoid dealing with physical discs, Thomas Rapp described it at MorphZone:
Updating procedure for...
Pegasos (http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=9&topic_id=9199&post_id=100666&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1)
Mac (http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=9&topic_id=9199&post_id=101735&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1)
Yes, you don't have to burn a disc to install or update MorphOS. Also, updating MorphOS has always been an easy task from within the existing previous MorphOS installation, so I don't understand any complaints about the update process. I also have never had any trouble with using Grunch to update or install 3rd party MorphOS compatible software packages, so I don't understand the "buggy" complaint. Grunch is largely dependent on the developers who choose to use it, by including an entry for their own software programs in the Grunch database. Problems can arise if the database entry is done incorrectly, but I don't consider that a fault of the Grunch program itself. Grunch is one of my favorite utilities for MorphOS and I would not want to do without it. Grunch is the first thing I recommend to all new MorphOS users.
The news that MorphOS3.6 now supports my Radeon R400 based FireGL video card is great and something I had not expected until later in a future version.
The Quad Core G5 PowerMac is not yet supported, but I would not rule out a chance that it might be supported some time in the future. There is no official announcement regarding the Quad Core G5's yet.
Can't wait to test out MorphOS3.6 on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac!
Thanks to all MorphOS Dev. Team members for yet another great free update, to an already great operating system.
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@Amigadave or anyone
What is the best air cooled G5 desktop-tower type to get for MorphOS? I have a "short list" of a few older machines I am tracking down. I would like to add this. My only MorphOS reg is tied to an older G4 mini.
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Thomas has a good work-a-round but not really an official update program as such, would be good to have something along those lines.
No more downloading ISO's just run the update program and it does the work.
AmigaOS has done some great work with amiupdate along those lines, although it did error out on first update and I had to manually update one of the libraries after that it was away.
Grunch has it's moments, doesn't always connect to the database and some updates wouldn't download/update so in the end I just googled the recommended versions it put forward. It's come along way though from when I first used it. If it wasn't for Grunch I wouldn't have found cyber lemmings ;-)
I even tried it under 3.9 and it had similar issues.
Where MorphOS has the edge over AmigaOS is driver support, speed of updates and boot time.
The GUI isn't for me though, to me AmigaOS has the feel of 3.9 without the need of all the software hacks which is a good thing for me.
I've tried various AmigaOS 3.x/4.x style themes for MorphOS but just can't get into it.
I'm still impressed with the boot time though, and the developers are amazing. The amount of work they have put into it is incredible. I'll register it at some point (now that I have my Peg board) just to support another Amiga project. I try to support most things Amiga.
However would be nice if everyone worked together on an "Amiga OS" just so we can leap frog a head at a faster rate but then history would say this isn't going to happen.
Red/blue camp bollocks etc...
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You can avoid dealing with physical discs, Thomas Rapp described it at MorphZone:
Updating procedure for...
Mac (http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=9&topic_id=9199&post_id=101735&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1)
You can also skip few steps in that guide. You don't need to rename bootinfo.txt or bless it (if you don't touch it). Unless bootinfo.txt has changed of course, but it usually (never?) does. It's enough just to replace boot.img and that's it.
This method has worked for me too, but it's not officially recommended to update the live system, because in theory it can cause some unexpected errors. I'd recommend to do it after fresh reboot at least.
Other safe discless method is to boot the ISO from USB memory. It's practically the same as CD boot and it's recommended way too. You can find official guide for it.
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@ Jeff
The 2.3 Ghz G5 with PCI-X slots is currently the most powerful air-cooled model available.
@ AmigaDave - Did you try an R400 card yet? Johannes Genberg in Stockholm (Yasu on MorphZone) has been beta testing the driver and let me know a few weeks ago that it had been finalized.
@ TeamBlackFox - Just hold on to your 2.5 GHz Quad. Support is rarely announced ahead of time (except for rare exceptions like the SAM460 - which probably shouldn't have been mentioned since all its done is generate constant comments about the delays), but support for PCI-e G5s seems like a natural next step.
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I have never tried AOS 4.x. I still actively use 3.9 on classic hardware and MOS 3.6 on a powerbook.
IMHO, MOS seems like a very natural progression in the user experience to 3.9. It has a balance of modern elements, and classic look that works for me.
The upgrade process from1.4x to 3.6 has been solid. Burning a CD is simple and ever since Jalapeno, it is native to the os.
I agree if "one banner" was working together instead of red/blue it would have helped, particularly in the software application area which is the biggest void of all flavors of Amiga.
Welcome to MOS...
Thomas has a good work-a-round but not really an official update program as such, would be good to have something along those lines.
No more downloading ISO's just run the update program and it does the work.
AmigaOS has done some great work with amiupdate along those lines, although it did error out on first update and I had to manually update one of the libraries after that it was away.
Grunch has it's moments, doesn't always connect to the database and some updates wouldn't download/update so in the end I just googled the recommended versions it put forward. It's come along way though from when I first used it. If it wasn't for Grunch I wouldn't have found cyber lemmings ;-)
I even tried it under 3.9 and it had similar issues.
Where MorphOS has the edge over AmigaOS is driver support, speed of updates and boot time.
The GUI isn't for me though, to me AmigaOS has the feel of 3.9 without the need of all the software hacks which is a good thing for me.
I've tried various AmigaOS 3.x/4.x style themes for MorphOS but just can't get into it.
I'm still impressed with the boot time though, and the developers are amazing. The amount of work they have put into it is incredible. I'll register it at some point (now that I have my Peg board) just to support another Amiga project. I try to support most things Amiga.
However would be nice if everyone worked together on an "Amiga OS" just so we can leap frog a head at a faster rate but then history would say this isn't going to happen.
Red/blue camp bollocks etc...
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The best Amiga OS available just keeps on getting better and better. Each update brings so many new features and the quality is outstanding.
Definitely worth the £100 licence fee.
Thanks MorphOS Team! :D
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Upgraded my G4 powerbook from Morphos 3.5 to 3.6 no problem.
Confirmed airport wireless now works under MorphOS!
YES! I no longer need the pcmcia wireless card anymore!
Thanks to the MorphOS team for this release.
Catcha,
Epsilon
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@ AmigaDave - Did you try an R400 card yet? Johannes Genberg in Stockholm (Yasu on MorphZone) has been beta testing the driver and let me know a few weeks ago that it had been finalized.
I'm also known as Yasu here as well :) Though I rarely write anything here.
Yes, I have been testing it for some months now and it's not only much more powerful than my previous 9600 Pro card but I have also a lot less gfx bugs on it (maybe as few as 0). So if you can get a hand on a X800XT card I really recommend it!
[Edit] It's an X800XT I got.
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You can also skip few steps in that guide. You don't need to rename bootinfo.txt or bless it (if you don't touch it). Unless bootinfo.txt has changed of course, but it usually (never?) does. It's enough just to replace boot.img and that's it.
This method has worked for me too, but it's not officially recommended to update the live system, because in theory it can cause some unexpected errors. I'd recommend to do it after fresh reboot at least.
Other safe discless method is to boot the ISO from USB memory. It's practically the same as CD boot and it's recommended way too. You can find official guide for it.
+1 for USB or CD boot - the simple (and fail-safe) methods, no messing with the boot partition.
It's easy enough to put together a yaboot-based boot menu that offers all the options (boot from HDD, boot OSX, boot linux, boot from USB, boot from ISO, etc), but any boot menu adds a few seconds to the boot time.
For everyday usage, unless you regularly boot into multiple OSes/versions it's more annoyance than use. (The one blessing is that once configured, you never have to bother with OFW for anything ever again. :) )
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@Iggy
Thanks!!!
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I fear a world in which no one owns physical copies of books, software, etc. And everyone must depend upon internet acess not to mention technology as a whole to gain acess to things we have paid for.
Further more in such a world, companies can withold software you have bought, or can alter eBooks (information) which you have downloaded.
No sirt, I'd rather also still have the option of using physical copies, and as said before, you don't have to burn a CD to install the ISO update. It's all rather simple actually, doesn't even need an updater feature for people too lazy to read. :)
Starting to look really good, a shame nobody is picking up warp3d. I understand that it's old but would still be nice :-)
Still not a fan of Ambient, also is there such a thing as "morphos update"? There's grunch I know but pretty buggy and doesn't always work.
Would be great to be able to update from within MorphOS instead of having to deal with old fashioned discs all the time :-/
Liking the SMBFS though :-)
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Congrats to the MorphOS dev team.
I fear a world in which no one owns physical copies of books, software, etc. And everyone must depend upon internet acess not to mention technology as a whole to gain acess to things we have paid for.
Further more in such a world, companies can withold software you have bought, or can alter eBooks (information) which you have downloaded.
No sirt, I'd rather also still have the option of using physical copies, and as said before, you don't have to burn a CD to install the ISO update. It's all rather simple actually, doesn't even need an updater feature for people too lazy to read. :)
This is slightly off-topic, but since Lurch was talking about updates done via AmiUpdate... I have AmiUpdate set to save the downloaded archives of all updates to disk. So, I can make my own physical backups if I want to. That more or less addresses the risks that you list.
Personally, I prefer having a combination of small "automatic" updates, and periodically having new ISOs with all of the small updates included. That's the "best of both worlds."
Hans
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One thing I noticed about SMBFS right away is that I no longer have a limitation as to how far I am able to go into subdirectories. In 3.5 I couldnt recurse too far into subdirectories for some reason so I had to move what I wanted on my NAS to a higher level.
Now..it works like I want. That in itself is awesome.
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Thanks to the MorphOS Dev team. Downloaded but not yet installed.
Can anyone provide a brief update on the main improvements?
TrevorD
(PS I know RTFM! ;-))
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I have never tried AOS 4.x. I still actively use 3.9 on classic hardware and MOS 3.6 on a powerbook.
Still have 3.9 setup on my A1200, hacked to death with software patches and hardware mods. Still has a switching issue with RTG/WHDLoad I can't fix.
It's amazingly quick can run most summvm games fine and it's a pretty good machine for internet browsing.
I haven't touched it in awhile, but can't bring myself to sell it.
Feels just like my OS4.1 update 6 setup, however not as fast as the peg II.
Everything on os4.1 is in the same place as 3.9. So I get the 3.9 experience (with modern additions) but it's far more stable/faster. Plus I felt at home on first boot, just like running afaos/zune on 3.9.
I agree if "one banner" was working together instead of red/blue it would have helped, particularly in the software application area which is the biggest void of all flavors of Amiga.
There was a time when there was more more bickering than progress, if we can all focus on one goal imagine the list of apps we could have now :-)
Welcome to MOS...
Thanks :-)
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Can anyone provide a brief update on the main improvements?
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67595
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Thomas has a good work-a-round but not really an official update program as such, would be good to have something along those lines.
No more downloading ISO's just run the update program and it does the work.
I see where you are coming from but every update is really new release. It has to be updated in one go.
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http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67595
Thanks! :-)
TrevorD
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So long as I can KEEP a physical copy from an on-line update, then I'm happy. :)
Congrats to the MorphOS dev team.
This is slightly off-topic, but since Lurch was talking about updates done via AmiUpdate... I have AmiUpdate set to save the downloaded archives of all updates to disk. So, I can make my own physical backups if I want to. That more or less addresses the risks that you list.
Personally, I prefer having a combination of small "automatic" updates, and periodically having new ISOs with all of the small updates included. That's the "best of both worlds."
Hans
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Congrats on another great release of MorphOS.
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utilize the built-in Wi-Fi hardware in all Apple systems that feature Broadcom's BCM43 chipset
Nice work folks.
Might try to get this working over the weekend if I have time.
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Seems like a nice release, but still no sound on my Apple Digital Audio G4. And still no support for my USB C-Media audio device. Not useful for me…
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Seems like a nice release, but still no sound on my Apple Digital Audio G4. And still no support for my USB C-Media audio device. Not useful for me…
I'm baffled why you wouldn't just install a SoundBlaster Live.
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Seems like a nice release, but still no sound on my Apple Digital Audio G4. And still no support for my USB C-Media audio device. Not useful for me…
As long as we are stuck with Trident, you'll never see a USB audio card work with MorphOS, Aros, Amithlon, Amiga OS, etc.
I know, it sucks!
But ya, get a freaking Sound Blaster dude! It's not like we've got a ton of proffesional audio apps that require a professional sound card. Heck no one ever wrote a PuhDerBear for MorphOS so we can't even use our classic non AHI audio apps for that matter...
...not that they'd require a high end sound card but still.
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Seems like a nice release, but still no sound on my Apple Digital Audio G4. And still no support for my USB C-Media audio device. Not useful for me…
Rumours have it that MorphOS will get a class driver for isochronous transfers. This is the prerequisite for all those streaming devices (usb soundcards, speakers, webcams) to work.
But it's only rumoures...
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This release has been the best so far with my Mac mini G4. No more of those bsdsocket errors. I have it hooked up to a nice 1900 x 1200 display and have finally got my fonts sorted out. The OWB browser is very nice also.
The hardware support still impresses. Is there any hope that Nvidia cards will get some love some day or is that simply out of the question?
I believe my PowerMac G5 A1117 model will be added to the hardware list at some point but that won't matter since I have an Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX installed. It took a while to find one of these and I had to hack the ROM myself.
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This release has been the best so far with my Mac mini G4. No more of those bsdsocket errors. I have it hooked up to a nice 1900 x 1200 display and have finally got my fonts sorted out. The OWB browser is very nice also.
The hardware support still impresses. Is there any hope that Nvidia cards will get some love some day or is that simply out of the question?
I believe my PowerMac G5 A1117 model will be added to the hardware list at some point but that won't matter since I have an Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX installed. It took a while to find one of these and I had to hack the ROM myself.
My guess is that if that model is eventually supported that you are going to have to switch over to a Radeon X1900GT.
I doubt Nvidia cards will ever be supported.
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I'm baffled why you wouldn't just install a SoundBlaster Live.
Why should I? The on-board sound is listed as supported, so it should work. But it does not. Seems that MorphOS team and I have different definitions of "supported". And despite the fact that this issue is reported quite often the only help is "buy a SoundBlaster". No other hints, tricks, debug support (fill in the rest), only this solution: "buy".
And by the way, I have a ATI 9800pro with a big fan blocking one PCI slot and all other slots are equipped with USB 2.0 and a SATA controller. So there is no place for a SB Live.
So why should I buy the card or even MorphOS (despite the fact that I really like my MOS 1.4.5 on my Amiga4000)?
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As long as we are stuck with Trident, you'll never see a USB audio card work with MorphOS, Aros, Amithlon, Amiga OS, etc.
WTF has the settings app for Poseidon do to with wether such devices work or won't ???
Poseidon itself can do those isochronous transfers needed, but AFAIK it's currently only supported in the Deneb's driver.
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Why should I? The on-board sound is listed as supported, so it should work. But it does not. Seems that MorphOS team and I have different definitions of "supported". And despite the fact that this issue is reported quite often the only help is "buy a SoundBlaster". No other hints, tricks, debug support (fill in the rest), only this solution: "buy".
And by the way, I have a ATI 9800pro with a big fan blocking one PCI slot and all other slots are equipped with USB 2.0 and a SATA controller. So there is no place for a SB Live.
So why should I buy the card or even MorphOS (despite the fact that I really like my MOS 1.4.5 on my Amiga4000)?
Your explanation makes sense.
If it is listed as supported, it should work.
SB Live cards ARE cheap, but you obviously can not fit one in (without changing your video card cooler).
Hopefully a developer will address your sound issue.
Try bringing it up on MorphZone.
Personally, I'd find a single slot video card, place a low height USB card next to the video card, and install a sound card.
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Kookytech/Danwood made a very nice youtube presentation of the 3.6 features.
I must say MorphOS looks very nice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlO0QjDelCM
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I see where you are coming from but every update is really new release. It has to be updated in one go.
Linux has a distribution update option. Take Ubuntu for an example, it does minor updates then if a new release is done then it can also update the version. :-)
But it's still amazing that MorphOS/AmigaOS has advanced so far, hoping for more improvements :-)