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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: DutchinUSA on June 16, 2014, 01:29:37 PM

Title: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: DutchinUSA on June 16, 2014, 01:29:37 PM
Seriously? 4 people were still bidding above $800?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-Amiga-4000-040-Computer-system-4GB-CF-Card-18MB-Ram-CD-Rom-/261501447823
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Duce on June 16, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
About $900 more than I'd pay for it.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: KimmoK on June 16, 2014, 02:01:20 PM
Perhaps I should sell mine as well...
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Ancalimon on June 16, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
Wait and see the prices in ten years :)
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: gertsy on June 16, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
Wow, and it's vanilla as well.  Someone(s) wanted that badly.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Fingers on June 17, 2014, 01:24:01 PM
Wow!!!!

PZ.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 17, 2014, 07:30:11 PM
While some of you guys seem to be tripping over A4000's, the rest of us have never seen a working one even once in real life... and I've been using Amiga's since 1991, lol.  Like hen's teeth!  *cough cough* *hoarders* *cough cough*  ;)
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: carvedeye on June 17, 2014, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;766971
While some of you guys seem to be tripping over A4000's, the rest of us have never seen a working one even once in real life... and I've been using Amiga's since 1991, lol.  Like hen's teeth!  *cough cough* *hoarders* *cough cough*  ;)


I have never seen any big box amiga's in the flesh the only amiga's i have seen are the 500, 600 and 1200 :(
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: TeamBlackFox on June 17, 2014, 09:37:24 PM
I had a 3000, years ago. Was stolen by a crooked repairman. Good little machine too. This auction... I can get an SGI Origin 2000 with over a 1000 times the power for that price.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: psxphill on June 17, 2014, 09:57:11 PM
Quote from: TeamBlackFox;766977
I can get an SGI Origin 2000 with over a 1000 times the power for that price.

You could buy a modern PC for less than that, you can't really compare power and price. I imagine that demand for an SGI Origin 2000 is pretty low these days, very few people would be bidding on one to try to recapture their youth.
 
It sounds to me like a reasonable price, in the UK a broken one will go for that. We also have http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Commodore-Amiga-4000-Case-PX-With-Your-Old-Amiga-4000-Case-/171353070877?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item27e5705d1d
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: magnetic on June 17, 2014, 10:17:58 PM
WHy do you guys start these silly threads? Its an auction site, sometimes in auctions people go crazy wtf is the surprise??
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Plaz on June 17, 2014, 10:19:49 PM
Dang, few more years and I might be able to cover my kids college fun with some of my old machines.

Plaz
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Plaz on June 17, 2014, 10:20:40 PM
Quote from: magnetic;766981
WHy do you guys start these silly threads? Its an auction site, sometimes in auctions people go crazy wtf is the surprise??


Just to annoy you, didn't you know?

Plaz
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: gertsy on June 17, 2014, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;766971
While some of you guys seem to be tripping over A4000's, the rest of us have never seen a working one even once in real life... and I've been using Amiga's since 1991, lol.  Like hen's teeth!  *cough cough* *hoarders* *cough cough*  ;)


I always wanted an A4000, back when they were new and $5000. One came up through eBay "with issues" I jumped at it. In the end the "issues" were the fact that 2 of the memory modules had worked loose. It is a badged 030 but had a 040 in it. The base chassis was bent so badly under the power supply edge the floor almost touched the power supply.  I spent time and effort bringing it back to a good usable state. I paid $350 for it, back in 2009 (I think).
That was around the going rate then.
I have one Amiga 4000. And it's mine, my birthday present, my precious!
I consider myself a protector/custodian. Not a hoarder.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: slayer on June 18, 2014, 03:49:48 AM
No one means to become a hoarder (I don't think anyway) but in the course of acquiring a few specific things you ended up having to take the entire auction. Now days (since I target software only) I'll ask if I win the auction would they just send certain titles and then relist the hardware. 50% of the time the person can't be bothered separating it. God forbid running two auctions even though you're getting more money... *boggle* then of course there are those who say, oh no thanks, I want it all to go in one lot to a good home...

some times you can't even give your money away LOL

p.s. just to comment on the price of this A4000, if I wanted something badly enough I'd pay for it no worries, people who wait for better deals generally are waiting most of there lives since there is always a better deal after the first good deal etc... don't want to live my life like that, I like the commanding aspect of throwing down the money and getting the F'ing thing! Power and Glory! Oh Yeah! ;-)
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: amigakid on June 18, 2014, 07:11:10 AM
Yeah that is a really high price for a stock 040 desktop.  I love the A4000!  I also really like my A3000 too.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: TeamBlackFox on June 18, 2014, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: psxphill;766979
You could buy a modern PC for less than that, you can't really compare power and price. I imagine that demand for an SGI Origin 2000 is pretty low these days, very few people would be bidding on one to try to recapture their youth.

Its not that type of need/want for an Origin 2000. Its the fact that the machine cost over a million brand new, and while its useless for general purpose computing its still very useful for research purposes - its basically a rackmounted cluster of MIPS cpus. The point I was trying to make was that the value of the Origin 2000 is really there, with this A4000 its not worth this price paid - at all. I like Amigas, but will probably never own a high end classic one because if I need a classic machine I have my SGI Fuel and Octane, and they have the added benefit of being fully POSIX compliant and able to act as a fancy X11 terminal if I wanted to do all my work via them.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: tone007 on June 18, 2014, 01:59:22 PM
Quote from: TeamBlackFox;767031
I like Amigas, but will probably never own a high end classic one because if I need a classic machine I have my SGI Fuel and Octane, and they have the added benefit of being fully POSIX compliant and able to act as a fancy X11 terminal if I wanted to do all my work via them.


I tossed a few SGI machines because I found them fairly useless, "classic" or not, as would most people who simply want a classic Amiga to play with.

..and how about them classic IBM XTs?!
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: TeamBlackFox on June 18, 2014, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: tone007;767038
I tossed a few SGI machines because I found them fairly useless, "classic" or not, as would most people who simply want a classic Amiga to play with.

..and how about them classic IBM XTs?!

>because I found them fairly useless

Depends on the user I guess. I prefer UNIX for serious stuff so the SGIs aren't useless to me. Then again I'm not your average Amiga fan - I haven't touched one in 5 years. I'd sure want to have one again, an old one and a nice X1000 (But lets face it, I'm not able to drop 3k on a computer while my auto is in need of a new A/C system)

> how about them classic IBM XTs

Old x86 hardware of that vintage, doesn't do anything for me. I need to build another MS-DOS compatible machine eventually for classic games, but thats about it. MS-DOS feels like castrated UNIX.

Its funny since after I sold my laptop because I couldn't run BSD on it, I don't own a single x86 desktop or laptop. I have a few poweredge servers in storage, but those are hardly general purpose.

I also happen to be friends with one of the most infamous SGI freaks in Virginia (thebulbguy, he has two Personal Irises, an Origin 2000 thats bigger than his fridge, an Indy, an Indigo2, a Fuel, an Onyx 2, two Octanes, an Origin 350, a few Altix, not to mention a ton of non SGI hardware all crammed into a one bedroom apartment) So yeah, I have myself the best teachers of SGI hardware and we're great friends.

He also likes Amigas but has never owned one. Once I get one myself I plan on getting him to buy one. I'm already half way to getting an Amiga - just got a nice 1084s along with an SGI O2 which I am reselling to a friend, and a Sun Ultra 5 for $350, that included a ton of spare parts too for each machine.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Plaz on June 19, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
@tone007

OT
Speaking of classics... your avatar.  1964 Plymouth Valiant?
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: tone007 on June 19, 2014, 02:33:04 PM
Quote from: Plaz;767117
@tone007

OT
Speaking of classics... your avatar.  1964 Plymouth Valiant?


It is, sold it a couple of months ago, though.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 19, 2014, 07:38:19 PM
Quote from: TeamBlackFox;767031
Its not that type of need/want for an Origin 2000. Its the fact that the machine cost over a million brand new, and while its useless for general purpose computing its still very useful for research purposes - its basically a rackmounted cluster of MIPS cpus. The point I was trying to make was that the value of the Origin 2000 is really there, with this A4000 its not worth this price paid - at all. I like Amigas, but will probably never own a high end classic one because if I need a classic machine I have my SGI Fuel and Octane, and they have the added benefit of being fully POSIX compliant and able to act as a fancy X11 terminal if I wanted to do all my work via them.

Just googled "Origin 2000".  OMG, wow!  That's what I love about amiga.org, the opportunity to learn about something new.  :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Origin_2000

Also, I see you're located in NoVA?  For a while we were trying to start up another user's group in our area, had a couple really fun meetups but no one has had time to host one since around last winter.  Will have to put you on my list to reach out if we get it going again, unless you're able/interested in hosting one?
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: gertsy on June 20, 2014, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: TeamBlackFox;767031
... a fancy X11 terminal.

Contradiction in terms there.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: AmigaNG on June 20, 2014, 09:38:17 AM
I'd say pretty nice to see that there is demand in the market for classic Amiga hardware, I have often thought about buying a few more classic machine just to collect them but I know I most likely would'nt have the time to play with them and dont really have the room for them either.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: TeamBlackFox on June 20, 2014, 02:34:04 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;767150
Just googled "Origin 2000".  OMG, wow!  That's what I love about amiga.org, the opportunity to learn about something new.  :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Origin_2000

Also, I see you're located in NoVA?  For a while we were trying to start up another user's group in our area, had a couple really fun meetups but no one has had time to host one since around last winter.  Will have to put you on my list to reach out if we get it going again, unless you're able/interested in hosting one?

They're nice. As I said a friend of mine has one. When I saw it squealed like a little schoolgirl - no kidding.

I'd be happy to attend a group, but for personal reasons I'll be unable to host one myself.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: orb85750 on June 22, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: DutchinUSA;766856
Seriously? 4 people were still bidding above $800?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-Amiga-4000-040-Computer-system-4GB-CF-Card-18MB-Ram-CD-Rom-/261501447823


6 or 8 years ago, you could buy a working A4000 on ebay for about $250.  Those days are gone?
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Thorham on June 22, 2014, 12:28:55 AM
Quote from: orb85750;767294
6 or 8 years ago, you could buy a working A4000 on ebay for about $250.  Those days are gone?
Highly likely. A lot can change in that time.
Title: Re: a4000 sold on Ebay for $1,225????
Post by: Ancalimon on June 22, 2014, 12:47:31 AM
Lately it's becoming extremely difficult to find Amiga hardware for sale... Especially big box Amigas, turbos and graphic cards. There are different kind of people selling Amiga stuff.

1) Most of the people already have what they need. If they no longer need something, they sell it.
2) Some people keep looking for very hard to find parts and buy them for a lot of money.
3) Some people hoard items which they buy cheaply or by being fast, wait a bit and sell them for very high prices when the time is right.
4) Some people get broken hardware, fix them, make them even better than the originals and sell them (these are the best guys and they sell them cheap)

Things are getting really expensive nowadays. I'm afraid of selling my A4000T if the prices rise even further and tempt me.