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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: AmiDelf on February 15, 2004, 04:39:11 AM
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I need to say this! www.amiga.org looks great. It looks much more seriouse. I mean it. You just need to convince yourself that new design is what media needs.
I love this change indeed. Once you have orientated yourself, its actually much better than the previous one. It could have the blue style at the top of the page though, but thats just a minor comment.
Amiga people is known for loving what they have. Same thing with me and those projects I have on amigaworld.org
I want to have it as it was, with new tricks. But not too heavy changes. www.amiga.org is for me much more usefull now indeed. I like it!
Keep up the good work!
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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I like it;-)
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Nice work guys!
Dammy
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Must admit,
I'm kinda liking the new look too.
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I am getting used to the new layout now. I won't complain about the theme as I know it is in a transitionary period.
The best thing is that the upgrade went relatively smoothly without losing important data.
It would have been extremely irritating if everyone had to re-register or if everyone lost their post count.
These things are never easy so congrats to all the folk involved in the upgrade.
Good work. I am sure further tweaks will win more favour. It is only a matter of time.
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I liked Amiga Org the way it was before. Whoever the stupid person is that changed it has actually made Amiga Org WORSE then Amiga World! Because of this change, Amiga World is now BETTER then Amiga Org.
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Troll Alert!
Doomie? is that you ? :roll:
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No.
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The site is better its just the color scheme i hate.
The new features are nice it will just take a little while to get used to its new layout. :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Hi GadgetMaster,
about DM . . . 100% sure :roll:
Zelig, strikes again.
Anyway, i like the new theme because, onestly, the old blue pattern had tired my taste a little bit. (even the alternative themes too)
Ciao
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Amiga Org was better before the change. It now SUCKS !!!! I'd like to know who the stupid F*CK is that changed Amiga Org! Amiga World is now better then Amiga Org.
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To be honest, Xoops2 is welcome, I even like the buttons in the post area, but the current "skin" is somewhat... ugly? Hopefully that will change in the future :-)
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:madashell:
@ Ami(king)(Doom)Master
Shoo! Shoo!
Go away!
Troll
:roll:
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I like it!! Bit of a shock ... But its smart!
Well done on the smoooooooth upgrade dudes!
Kev
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Mmmm It is nice, but i prefer the old one.
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mmm I don't like the new layout of the main page. I prefer polls on one side, not taking so much space as now.
For me the news block is the most important one, and now it has been eaten by other not so important parts. For example classifieds etc...
The description of the news is now too short, we have lost the "topic icon"...
I would like that news items took as much space as with the last layout.
The graphics used in the headers/title of the page looked more proffesional with the previous layout.
The antialias applied to the words of the sections of the title is excesive and makes the text look slitghly blurry.
I definitely do not like the colours and look of the new title.
Change at least the antialias effect and apply a small shadow so text is less blurry and different from the background.
And please change the main page and give more space to the news items.
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argh and that "light" when you put the mouse over the text looks really crap. Can't you see clearly the light effect "cut" by the other blocks? don't apply the effect to the two dots!
IMHO the title have never looked so unprofessional
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Because of this change, Amiga World is now BETTER then Amiga Org.
And I'm Abraham Lincoln. Pleased to meet you.
:lol:
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I preferred the old look by far.
The colours are awful. It looks LESS up to date than the way it used to be
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Totally agree with Crumb. I won't comment on new features and technical issues as I haven't had the time yet to have a closer look on them, but I find the new style utterly ugly :(
The site looked much more professional before, and now it's very amateurish. There doesn't seem to be any graphical cohesion between the different parts and it's very messy. And just look at the main banner: 90% of it is used to diplay some brown (yuck!) and blue horizontal lines :/
Please change the style to someting nice-looking or at least something closer to what it was before, if you don't have inspiration. Now I feel like I'm back to a late-nineties Amiga.org :(
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Is there any way to get rid of this Ami A2000 Master Doom King Amiga 2000 Guy freak??????
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Have i been at the diesel oil again?
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Will take a while to get used to this retro look, don't care much for the header layout and colour but it still has some changes to go threw, i hope!
The rest of it does look quite interesting though.
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amigamad wrote on 2004/2/15 4:44:50
"The site is better its just the color scheme i hate.
The new features are nice it will just take a little while to get used to its new layout."
Will somebody please point me to a listing of these NEW features. All I've seen so far is a new home page that apes all that I think is bad at commercial sites.
If the upgrade makes the site safer from hacking, great. If it has more features for those with the time to use them, fine.
I guess I'll link straight to the News page. I don't want to deal with the new Home page.
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I'm starting to like the look now.
Except the 'FORUMS' banner. That thing is ugly! (I think it's the font & size)
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Argh ! I really prefer the previous look !
This new look is to much common ...
And the colours of the banner on the top of the page (with the A logo) are just too bland ...
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KennyR wrote:
Because of this change, Amiga World is now BETTER then Amiga Org.
And I'm Abraham Lincoln. Pleased to meet you.
:lol:
And I really am Robert Kennedy. And I agree, AmigaWorld now has a cleaner, easier to use, look and feel than Amiga.org.
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Actually, I think the new look is much more 'mature' than the old look.
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And I really am Robert Kennedy. And I agree, AmigaWorld now has a cleaner, easier to use, look and feel than Amiga.org.
Well, hello Mr. Kennedy.
I prefered AmigaWorld's previous look before it took on that chunky and garish OS4 titlebar theme. But anyway, a website isn't "better" just because it looks better. IMO, the content, the people, and the more balanced news here are far, far better than AmigaWorld's. I don't want to hear news from just one side all the time, or "can we have a port of this" and "let's petition for this" threads, or the obligatory "my 030 Amiga is faster than any PC!" threads. :-)
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@iama:
I agree, just dont like that orange/brown color though :-)
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Well, hello Mr. Kennedy.
I prefered AmigaWorld's previous look before it took on that chunky and garish OS4 titlebar theme. But anyway, a website isn't "better" just because it looks better. IMO, the content, the people, and the more balanced news here are far, far better than AmigaWorld's. I don't want to hear news from just one side all the time, or "can we have a port of this" and "let's petition for this" threads, or the obligatory "my 030 Amiga is faster than any PC!" threads. :-)
Would you care to provide statistics of the prevalence of these kind of threads on amigaworld.net compared to, amiga.org, ann.lu etc?
I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence to back up your last bunch of claims about amigaworld.net.
Dave.
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I'm afraid I can't explain due to legal reasons.
(:lol:)
(Which is just a way of saying: if you want to start yet another AO vs. AW flame war, do it without me.)
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No, I don't want to start any kind of flamewar, however it amazes me that you seem to want to so frequently.
If you are going to continue to make snide remarks about a site with the frequency that you do then I suggest that you back it up with some collateral in future, then it will actually start to look indeed like your intent and your words match - that you do not wish to start a flamewar.
PS, you might also realise that the "legal reasons" thing was to do with Eyetech and not Amigaworld.net.
Oh and as to the site, its a good clean look at the moment, the only thing that clashes to me is the particular shade of orange you have at the top. But that could be my retina shot ;)
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I think both sites look great, but it's true. The fact of the matter is people go to websites because the site contains what they want to see, and in a simple way. Why the heck else would sites like Aminet be such a big thing? I'll also point out google, which has a picture at the top and that's it...
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KennyR wrote:
IMO, the content, the people, and the more balanced news here are far, far better than AmigaWorld's.
hold on there about the people - I use both sites. But one of the reasons why I started to use Amiga.org less is in part due to some people being miserable buggers - always moaning about everything, always finding fault and general being quite sour!
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rubbish. brown and bland. old look far better. total regression.
sort out the Times New Roman generic font and add some style sheets.
i like the glowing aspect of the nav bar at the top, but the text is too anti-aliased.
hate the brown.
Generally looks too 'font missing hence i will revert to default topaz'.
seriously, looks still work in progress, unfinished.
as for miserable buggers on Amiga.org, I agree. moaning bar stewards the lot of em. :)
seriously, it doesn't look finished or presentable. embarassing to other platforms if we're meant to show off what the amiga is about.
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KennyR wrote:
I prefered AmigaWorld's previous look before it took on that chunky and garish OS4 titlebar theme. But anyway, a website isn't "better" just because it looks better. IMO, the content, the people...
Well, Ken, since we are at the moment talking purely about the site design... ;-)
I think AW looks pretty neat these days. Apart from the all-caps 'AMIGAWORLD.NET' banner... that's horrible. :-D
My main problem with Amiga.org's look right now is the big, unbroken block of grey that makes up the majority of most pages. It makes me feel claustrophobic, the blue broke things up very nicely before. Oh, and the Workbench 1.3 monstrosity above ;-)
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i'm still looking around - i just got here and it will take me a few days to get used to this new look. it's interesting to say the least!
one thing i did notice right away: I'm going to have to get off my lazy azz and actually make myself an AV as the old ones are gone.
it's probably just as well.
and we don't have smilies! ah well.
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cecilia wrote:
I'm going to have to get off my lazy azz and actually make myself an AV as the old ones are gone.
The old one looked really cool next to your name... you made it your own.
Oh well :-(
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God job guys!
[italian]
Bellissimo lavoro ragazzi, complimenti a tutto lo staff!
[/italian]
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I much prefer this look. The previous layout was very condensed in comparison. This version makes effective use of space. It also bears a slight resemblance to /. (does it use the same engine?) which I appreciate.
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Well, here's my input: It's not bad, and I assume things will improve, however, I do get the feeling that when reading the forums the body of the message is now more squished between the left/right thread side-bars and the post-side bar (the part where the avatar is located). Perhaps they're the same size as before and that the new colour scheme makes it only seem that way, but that's one thing I've noticed so far. The other is that quotes are not as easily identifiable as they are only indented, while before they also had a nice little divider breaking it apart from the rest of the post. However the old divider was kinda cumbersome, I would suggest using either a different font or different background colour for quoted text.
Having said that, the new look isn't bad, and I think people will get used to it with time. I was hoping that the new version of Xoops would have a spelling checker built into the edit window and perhaps a quick edit feature, but no big deal really.
- Mike
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I miss the look of the old site myself, but only the look. I love the new fatures of the site now. Just make the theme look simular to the older site is all it needs.
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Glaucus wrote:
I do get the feeling that when reading the forums the body of the message is now more squished between the left/right thread side-bars and the post-side bar (the part where the avatar is located).
I don't think there was a right side-bar on the forum view before, so maybe that's it. Unless my brain's gone insane. You're right it does look kinda squishy, it forces the posts into a narrow band and it's uncomfortable to read.
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Well, I see my gripe about the quotes has been addressed! :-D
As for the right-side side-bar, I think you're right TPG. I think what's now on the right side-bar was part of the left side-bar. I can see why they did it that way, and worth a shot, but over all I think it would be best if the moved the right side-bar back over to the left. As it is now, once you get past the first few posts in a thread, there's about an inch and a half of empty grey on either side of each post. Sure, they may end up putting more things on the side-bars, but do we really need more stuff on the side-bars?
- Mike
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I much better prefer the old Amiga.org sceme. The new format looks tacky & butt ugly !
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Bobsonsirjonny wrote:
But one of the reasons why I started to use Amiga.org less is in part due to some people being miserable buggers - always moaning about everything, always finding fault and general being quite sour!
Well yes, it's called realism. The Amiga has never been in a worse state and there's really no call for mindless optimism and naivity any more. It was ok in 1997, started to chafe in 1999, got really annoying in 2002, laughable in 2003, but now it's really, really sad. It's just gone beyond blindness and fanaticism. Even Fleecy is now talking about "platform evangelism". :roll:
I'll give an example of a fairly recent AW thread about a someone registering for a Lucasarts game as "G4 Amiga" so Lucasarts would think of doing a port for AmigaONE. Now, if 12 registrations of a computer they've never heard of with no market potential is ever going to influence Lucasarts, I've dropped into a parallel dimension. No, all this sillyness does is give Amiga users a bad name. A very bad name.
And the reason why the "moaners" i.e. the realistic people don't come to AW to tell people why silly ideas are silly is because it's patently obvious they aren't welcome. If you aren't cencored for "trolling and flame baiting", you'll be set upon viciously by lots of people who don't really understand the situation but who are insulted because their faith is being taken into question. And it's dead certain who's side the "moderators" are going to take. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
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GadgetMaster wrote:
:madashell:
@ Ami(king)(Doom)Master
Shoo! Shoo!
Go away!
Troll
:roll:
i'm glad to see our own members can deal with trollers...
anyway
i've been using xoops2 to host my site, as well as using other people's xoops2 sites...
so i'm happy that amiga org finally has caught up with the features, well done :)
however the colour scheme is really dodgy, don't think i'll ever get used to it (webmasters, hello? get some other colour schemes and allow us to select them!) and the front page could do with some block managment, make it a little less cluttered...
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Although I fully appreciate the work the A.org team has put into this upgrade, I must admit that the orange/blue combo just doesn't work at all. Orange is a tricky colour to work with I think. I would suggest just picking one colour and using shades of it, along with shades of grey to make up the colour scheme. Mixing too many colours always looks tacky.
- Mike
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@AmiMaster and AmiKing:
Thank you for your very polite and mature way of expressing yourselves. Behaving respectful is indeed a good way of earning respect and getting people to take your opinions seriously.
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First I liked the look better as it was before, but after some time I start liking this. One of the new things I like, is this "Notify me of new posts..." -an useful function!
But there's one thing I appreciate less. When I open a thread I don't get to the first post right away. Maybe I just need more time to get used to it, but I'm not sure. What do you ppl think about it?
@staff
Good work!
cheers
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Currently its looking better. i noticed the news articles are back they way the used to be. Keep up the good work guys!!!
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From what I've been given to understand, Kent (and perhaps Roj) are working on a replacement header. I personally like the shades of copper, as "rust" is very indicative of the Amiga situation right now. Think about it.
:-)
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I personally like the shades of copper, as "rust" is very indicative of the Amiga situation right now. Think about it.
Oh and let me guess, the blue represents "hope", right? ;-)
- Mike