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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: curtis on June 06, 2014, 10:48:00 PM
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Don't bother doing business with customsg because he/she/it won't follow through with the deal.
Sold this person an Amiga software package for the princely sum of 99 cents. They never paid, never responded to any emails, NOTHING!
Opened a case with ebay and, of course, all they did was send an email requesting I be paid.
If this person is on this board, are your such a LOSER you can't afford 99 cents?
Definitely a waste of time.
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Yeah, it sucks when people do that :( But why waste your time with selling something for 99 cents? Just give it away. Still sucks, of course, even when it's about 99 cents. Or perhaps especially when it's about 99 cents. The realization that there are people who will screw someone for 99 cents :(
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And don't buy anything from 'airey' at amiga retro, he is a con artist and does not give %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! about amigas or his customers.
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I've never had any issues with airey36, I've bought several items off him in the past and his prices are reasonable compared to some rip off merchants on ebay.
Even went out of his way to find a couple of items for me which I appreciate.
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In the past I've weighed up the time/effort/return/possibly could be doing something else balance...and decided to give stuff away, or throw in the bin - yes, shock horror, Amiga items :D
But, you're right, 99c or $99, it's still apparentely a contract. And sometimes you've gotta pick your battles. Sometimes you win by not even fighting.
+1 for good words for airey. Never had a problem and I've bought from him in the UK to me in Australia probably over a dozen times now. And the general consensus seems to be that he is a good seller based on most things I've read :D
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wow ! How annoying! I don't use evilbay much as there are a lot of crooks out there.
Recently I got a good deal on an external scsi CD changer.
The guy after a few days of playing quiet : sorry, I dropped the item, it is broken now....
WTF ?
:furious:
took him a while to reimburse me too...
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And don't buy anything from 'airey' at amiga retro, he is a con artist and does not give %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! about amigas or his customers.
Oh wow, sorry you had a bad experience with him. I had just the opposite - found him friendly, helpful, and his prices reasonable. The only thing I didn't like was the shipping from the UK to the US, but that was to be expected for the size parcel he sent me. (I purchased a full A500 with a big box of floppies, two game controllers, and assorted Amiga hardware.) As a matter of fact, he was so amiable, and patient with my questions, I would even go so far as to call him a friend.
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Recently I got a good deal on an external scsi CD changer.
The guy after a few days of playing quiet : sorry, I dropped the item, it is broken now....
took him a while to reimburse me too...
Doesn't sound like a crook to me, he may have dropped the CD changer. You never know.
Reimbursement always seems to take awhile, especially with credit cards. Paypal tends to take awhile to.
I would call him a crook if he didn't refund the money though.
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I can I send you 99 cents. You must be the world's greatest tight arse. Seriously if you have to waste your time bitching on Amiga.org about 99 cents you really don't have a life!
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I can I send you 99 cents. You must be the world's greatest tight arse. Seriously if you have to waste your time bitching on Amiga.org about 99 cents you really don't have a life!
Its not the cents that counts.....
IT IS THE F-ING PRINCIPLE OF FOLLOWING THROUGH YOUR OBLIGATION TO A DEAL....
do you understand it?
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Seriously if you have to waste your time bitching on Amiga.org about 99 cents you really don't have a life!
Actually, what he doesn't have is the 99c he is entitled to :D
Whatever else he does or doesn't have is irrelevant and a matter of opinion - and of course you're entitled to your opinion. Do you have any idea what 99c means to the OP? Do you know the full story behind the 99c?
I've bitched to people who owe me $10 before - it's amazing how the lender is always the c*&t! It's never the borrower that is the c*&t when it isn't paid back! But we had an agreement. And I didn't need the money back. But I was owed it. And when I got it, I donated it to a charitable cause. The $10 meant so much more to someone else/other people that I didn't even know, than it did to me. It almost certainly saved multiple lives!
Only 99c huh?
The tables could also be turned the other way! Instead of "It's only 99c, so get over it"...why not "It's only 99c for f*&k sake - just f*&(ing pay it!"?
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I have discovered that there are two types of Amigans.
Those who are happy to buy anything Amiga-related such as the X1000 even if it is a overpriced piece of junk and those who complain about 99 cents. Sad but true!
BTW please reveal your eBay username so members can avoid such a grouch.
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I've never had any issues with airey36, I've bought several items off him in the past and his prices are reasonable compared to some rip off merchants on ebay.
Even went out of his way to find a couple of items for me which I appreciate.
Yeah, I haven't had any issues with him either.. i've bought lots of games from him and some hardware... he's ok to deal with, reasonable and most of his prices are reasonable as well...
Cheers,
Dragster
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Just trying to let people know about a bad buyer. Next time it might not be a paltry 99 cents. Could be something more significant.
Curtis
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Not trying to hide a thing.
My ebay username is mcmccain.
As far as being a grouch. Yeah, a bit.
However, I hate people who make a contract, even for a measly 99 cents, and refuse to honor it.
I got a pile of programs in a deal which I don't really want or need. Just trying to recover my investment. I've noticed if I slap a huge price on something, a lot of time it just doesn't sell. Start low, and things tend to work better. Eventually, I'll get my investment back, but when someone won't even honor a 99 cent contract...
I've actually discovered there are more than 2 type of Amigans.
1. Love the machine and try to promote it.
2. Love the machine but want to bash absolutely anything that isn't classic.
3. Love the machine and want to help it evolve.
4. Love the machine, but hate all other people and will bash anybody and everybody any chance they get.
I try to be in 1 and 3 groups. Everybody is welcome to their opinion.
So Megamig, where do you fit in?
I have discovered that there are two types of Amigans.
Those who are happy to buy anything Amiga-related such as the X1000 even if it is a overpriced piece of junk and those who complain about 99 cents. Sad but true!
BTW please reveal your eBay username so members can avoid such a grouch.
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BTW please reveal your eBay username so members can avoid such a grouch.
It's easy o avoid: Just fullfill the obligtions about the contract.
When I sold a few things by ebay (mostly clothes) I was wondering how many ppl took first chance to try to ripp you off - even if it's only about a few EURs/$$$.
Pacta sunt servanda! That's also true for ebay and also for contracts about 99ct. It's a principle of civilization. If one has probs to fullfill the obligations one can ask and try to negotiate again, but bluntly ignoring the obligations is just bad behaviour and a sign of really poor education.
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Well, the issues I had with airey is that I purchased an amiga 500 for my niece. It was sent to her address and so it was some months before I could inspect the amiga, upon a visit.
The a520 tv adapter was not included, though advertised and the amiga had 3 large cracks in the casing.
Basically it was %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!e and a waste of money.
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BTW, megamig, do you ebay? If so, what is YOUR ebay username?
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No eBay here. I rather patrol car parks looking for money left in trolley locks. It's much easier and the payment is instant! :P
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And don't buy anything from 'airey' at amiga retro, he is a con artist and does not give %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! about amigas or his customers.
I fully agree. I purchased a "tested and working" A3000D from Airey a year or two back. I realised the same day that the A3000D was faulty as it wouldn't recognise any of my Zorro cards, so I immediately contacted him to report the problem and to arrange return of the item.
His response was basically he knows nothing about the Zorro Bus on the Amiga, and as I had opened the case I obviously caused the damage myself, and if I decided to open a dispute with ebay he would be contesting it on those grounds.
So the moral of the story if you buy anything from Airey, especially Big Box Amiga's then asume it's not been fully tested, and if you do find a fault leaky battery whatever never admit to opening the case as he will only use that as an excuse with eBay why he shouldn't accept return of the item
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I fully agree. I purchased a "tested and working" A3000D from Airey a year or two back. I realised the same day that the A3000D was faulty as it wouldn't recognise any of my Zorro cards, so I immediately contacted him to report the problem and to arrange return of the item.
His response was basically he knows nothing about the Zorro Bus on the Amiga, and as I had opened the case I obviously caused the damage myself, and if I decided to open a dispute with ebay he would be contesting it on those grounds.
So the moral of the story if you buy anything from Airey, especially Big Box Amiga's then asume it's not been fully tested, and if you do find a fault leaky battery whatever never admit to opening the case as he will only use that as an excuse with eBay why he shouldn't accept return of the item
I've bought bits and bats off him in the past. Never anything significant though as it's obvious to me he knows nothing about Amiga's. I'm just glad he finally bought a better camera last year as his ebay photo's used to be %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!e.
I don't have any complaints about him though, I'm happy with the things I've bought from him.
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Well, the issues I had with airey is that I purchased an amiga 500 for my niece. It was sent to her address and so it was some months before I could inspect the amiga, upon a visit.
The a520 tv adapter was not included, though advertised and the amiga had 3 large cracks in the casing.
Basically it was %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!e and a waste of money.
I'm just going to throw this out there as a hypothetical. Based on your statement that "it was months before you could inspect the Amiga", is it possible that the A520 was misplaced and cracks occurred after he shipped it, but before you had a chance to inspect it?
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What bothers me is airey36 sells copies of free PD software but gives the impression it is a used commercial disk.
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I'm just going to throw this out there as a hypothetical. Based on your statement that "it was months before you could inspect the Amiga", is it possible that the A520 was misplaced and cracks occurred after he shipped it, but before you had a chance to inspect it?
I'll throw out a hypothetical to Wrath of Khan as well :D How did the case get broken? Airey, Postal Service, your Niece, someone else at your Nieces house? If you sold something, and regardless of the story you were given, were contacted months later with issues, what would you do? Did you actually contact Airey with the issue? Was he at all open to listening/trying to sort the issues? (I'm not implying he did anything wrong or that you did, but just trying to put it all into perspective - as stories aren't usually 100% as they come across).
And to the other posters stating that things were "broken"...I understand that Airey has a s*&tload of items listed at any one time, so when something is listed as working, I read between the lines and assume that a quick test only was given. It's not likely that he has had the item personally for years and knows every intricate detail about it. Likewise he is not likely to test an item for weeks prior to listing. I suppose with the A3000 Zorro slot issue, you don't know the slots don't work until you open them and try them - I get that. And it's not likely Airey actually tested them. But likewise, if we are being 100% transparent and open to possibilities, how do you know the slots (or whatever related item) wasn't broken by you accidentally? Or broken by a faulty card that you installed? Or that you had some kind of power glitch on install/test? (Once again, not saying blame shouldn't be laid with Airey. But likewise, why should it go down in history as his stuffup when maybe it wasn't???).
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I noticed that someone mentioned airey36 from ebay. I must say that I buy about 12 Amigas from him and never had any problem. Also he was kind to listen my demands about finding some keyboard keys and various parts.
In fact I was talking against his work few years ago but then I realized that man is doing business and that he don't need to care about Amiga community or Amiga itself or to have some special feelings about us. Each time he was polite, answering my mails fast and everything I received was in perfect order just like he said. At the end we are dealing with such old hardware with lot of micro fractures on the PCB so items easily can be damaged no matter how he protect it.