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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: AAACHIPSET on May 30, 2014, 09:55:53 AM
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well my dvd/hd player recorder died today ..maybe fixable with new capacitors ..so ive read ..got me thinking how unrealiable new technology
is ..it just doesnt last the test of time ..ive got a dvd cassette multi player running last ten years ..couple amplifiers over ten years old...an my fridge is pushing 20 i think ..old stuff was built to last ..seems new stuff a few years an its trashed ..so sad ..this dvd was only 5 years old at most ..man my a1200 is heading past 20 an still going strong .....
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Had to replace the caps on my A1200. Sound wasn't what use to be and I would get the occasional crash.
Since the caps were done it's like a brand new machine, the sound from Paula is 100% louder clearer.
All eletronics have their day. I bought a DVD player when the first came out $1200 at the time from memory, still going strong... must be over 10 years old. Although it sits in my parents garage now as I hardly use discs these days.
At work we have some 10 year old PC's that are finally showing cap problems.
One piece of equipment that doesnt last like it use to are washing machines.... they tend to fall apart or fail after 3 odd years.
Besides they don't want things to last, they want to sell you a new one ;-)
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Do you remember how much they wanted for an A500 cd-rom?
Now DVDs have 15-20 euros. The quality is low.
PS: A500 cd-roms work till today :-)
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I was reading some reviews of microwaves. The persons first Microwave lasted 9 years. The next one 12 years. Next one lasted 6 1/2 years. He is estimating his next one will last 3 years.
One of my pet hates is how cheaply made furniture is. But you still pay a lot of money for it.
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That reminds me of when my girl friend complained about our car starting to rust on the rear sills, where the water drains off the roof. She said that it's obviously a design flaw if the car rusts at that point... I had to interject, and point out that the car is 23 years old, I think Mazda did a pretty good job to make a roof drain that took 23 years to start rusting :)
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I have not har a single pata/sata dvd/cd drive To die on me yet and I got about 25 drives lying around, yesterday I hooked a Philips CDRW 5200 series up via pats to USB and it still worked great, that's the really good looking one :) I need older drives because doing backups of old video game consoles that are picky works better on some old CD drives.
My Japanese Sega Saturn loves the old Philips drive but have a hard time reading some written on new devices :)
Hard drives that are old that still works are hard to compare to mew drives, for example I checked SMART on an quantum fireball drive that worked and it only had a few thousand hours run time total but I have 20x 2TB western digital drives in my file server that has over 40K hours run time and I got 1TB drives that has passed 70K hours runtime that still works great, didn't run drives back in the day for those huge amounts of hours so not fair to compare them.
Anyone here has an old drive with over 70K hours run time? So I don't complain on new hdds since most works running and working 24/7 for 5 years+ for me and as said I don't have a single 1GB to 10GB drive with near that run time.
Tho I have had a ton of 80-250GB drives crash on me in the past with less then 20K hours so for hard drives the modern ones seems to run longer then early year 2000-2005 drives at least for me.
But brands in some manner has to be looked on also when comparing old vs new, some brands are expensive are all design and they I don't trust but quality brands with build quality seems to be as strong as old, my Miele washer is a top brand and have outlived all old mid/low end washers in lifespan.
Simple design has less tech that can break and seems to live longer, so that and brands can still with todays hardware last a long time.
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That reminds me of when my girl friend complained about our car starting to rust on the rear sills, where the water drains off the roof. She said that it's obviously a design flaw if the car rusts at that point... I had to interject, and point out that the car is 23 years old, I think Mazda did a pretty good job to make a roof drain that took 23 years to start rusting :)
Well there are tons of car brands that rust to pieces in 10 years new and old, I've never seen a Nissan King Cab that are rust free after a few years here in Swedish climate and that car has been made for a long time.
But then we have cars that the owner has taken care of that is known to rust but haven't like my 19 year old Volvo 440 that looks new and is 100% rust free, kinda funny since here in Sweden we have nearly no 440s left in trafik and parts are becoming troublesome since no one makes em anymore and really scares finding used parts since most are long gone :P
Here is my little trooper from 1995, only used to get to work :)
(http://i.imgur.com/W7mQd0u.jpg)
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One could argue that's more a DAF than a Volvo =). Look like it's in much better shape than my '97 9000. What's going on in the background there tho? Landfill?
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Over the years I've had a handful of drives pack it in. Lost more DVD players than I'd care to think about, including my beloved 5-disk Apex changer :( Nothing like putting the Lord of the Rings trilogy in and watching on a rainy day without having to get up.
I've got old computer gear (and new computer gear) that just goes and goes...it is what it is.
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One could argue that's more a DAF than a Volvo =). Look like it's in much better shape than my '97 9000. What's going on in the background there tho? Landfill?
Yeah really thin metal on this car, tho this is the 1995 2.0SE so it's the only 440 they made with a Volvo engine, the other have a Renault 19 engine so the engine is really good, else I wouldn't have bought it :) its in really good shape tho because a old man bought it new in 1995 and a year later he got dementia and went to the elderly home and the car was standing still in his garage until he died 2 years ago and friends of his started it a few times a year so it still worked. It had only been driven 16000km or 9941miles so it was basically new when I bought it, now it has traveled 40000km/24854miles and I'm taking great care of it :)
I'm in the process of cleaning up the farm and driving a lot to the junkyard so that's why I have gathered upp a lot To throw it on the dumper trailer you see in the background, so a lot of metal, 250 tires and old pallets. The car in the background is a friends that we was going to repair but he can't afford and we are waiting for him to pick the piece of crap up :P
You gather a lot of things over the year and,also replace a lot and now it's time to clear up junk and not needed, we have a car workshop on the farm also so a lot of old car parts to throw also :P a few hundred brake calipers, brake blocks, oil filters and tons of other things, we pay per load to throw away so we gather a lot before driving it away, tires we pay 15$ per each and we got a few hundreds stacked up from when we change on others cars :P so that's a bit costly to get rid of :/
Most car parts are gone and a few tons of scrap metal, now we mostly got wood and tires left ^^ I'm done this week tho and then I will take the excavator and level out a few areas for better storage and a place to put old vehicles :)
That's why it looks like this at the moment :)
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Volvos don't break, so I've heard, they are the cars equivalent to a tank.
A lot of flatscreen TV's and monitors tend to have problems with capacitors, the manufacturers purposely use cheap capacitors and place them where they are stressed the most.
Changing them when they fail is a cheap and simple operation.
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Volvos don't break, so I've heard, they are the cars equivalent to a tank.
True, my other Volvo V70 from 2000 has gone 550000km and Works like a charm still, rust free and runs great :) Volvo 740 series where called ugly tanks when they came due to their tank like square looks :P
Many call em traktors also since they just keep working:P
About TVs I've recaped a old Finlux LCD tv, caps went in the transformator, after switching them out it worked great :)
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3 year old 50" Panasonic plasma would not turn on-not fixable, they gave us a new one. The PQ was outstanding, so the panel was good. What a waste of materials.
Sony trinitron CRT 15 years still going strong.
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Thing is, old gear is repairable, new gear not so repairable.
Have a Technics Amp and cassette deck still going strong after 35 years. Garrard record deck still going strong after 33 years. Aiwa CD player still going strong after 27 years (ok, one repair on the cd player...tray iterlock switch snapped a few years back).
Our 28" CRT Hitachi blew up 3 months ago, that was 13 years old and had huge hours on the clock (used to belong to my grandparents).
Or best TV was a Panasonic from 1984. That beauty lasted 24 years without a hickup and was our living room tv. RIP Panasonic TV :)
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Thing is, old gear is repairable, new gear not so repairable.
Have a Technics Amp and cassette deck still going strong after 35 years. Garrard record deck still going strong after 33 years. Aiwa CD player still going strong after 27 years (ok, one repair on the cd player...tray iterlock switch snapped a few years back).
Our 28" CRT Hitachi blew up 3 months ago, that was 13 years old and had huge hours on the clock (used to belong to my grandparents).
Or best TV was a Panasonic from 1984. That beauty lasted 24 years without a hickup and was our living room tv. RIP Panasonic TV :)
My longest lived CRT TV that was used much was a Ban Olufsen TV (going strong 25+ years), it's not even broken to this day but in my storage, im planning on using it for retro gaming but recently saw a 15 year old 32" Bang Olufsen for a great price of 50$ I might pickup instead :)
Ive also had good luck with Sony CRT's :)
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Thing is, old gear is repairable, new gear not so repairable.
Have a Technics Amp and cassette deck still going strong after 35 years. Garrard record deck still going strong after 33 years. Aiwa CD player still going strong after 27 years (ok, one repair on the cd player...tray iterlock switch snapped a few years back).
Our 28" CRT Hitachi blew up 3 months ago, that was 13 years old and had huge hours on the clock (used to belong to my grandparents).
Or best TV was a Panasonic from 1984. That beauty lasted 24 years without a hickup and was our living room tv. RIP Panasonic TV :)
My longest lived CRT TV that was used much was a Ban Olufsen TV (going strong 25+ years), it's not even broken to this day but in my storage, im planning on using it for retro gaming but recently saw a 15 year old 32" Bang Olufsen for a great price of 50$ I might pickup instead :)
Ive also had good luck with Sony CRT's :)
Edit: The B&O TV is a BeoVision LX 2802 from 1988.
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Volvos don't break, so I've heard, they are the cars equivalent to a tank.
A lot of flatscreen TV's and monitors tend to have problems with capacitors, the manufacturers purposely use cheap capacitors and place them where they are stressed the most.
Changing them when they fail is a cheap and simple operation.
You are 100% spot on. Here I have a monitor and they have the capacitors not far away from the heatsink. Every few 16 months or so I have to have the capacitors changed otherwise the monitor just won't start.
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My longest lived CRT TV that was used much was a Ban Olufsen TV (going strong 25+ years), it's not even broken to this day but in my storage, im planning on using it for retro gaming but recently saw a 15 year old 32" Bang Olufsen for a great price of 50$ I might pickup instead :)
Ive also had good luck with Sony CRT's :)
Edit: The B&O TV is a BeoVision LX 2802 from 1988.
actually following up on all the old tvs an such i realized my oldist electronics was a jvc nivico turntable i bought for 25.00 dols when i was 18...that would make it over
35 yrs ago ..plus probaly ten years old when i got it in 1979ish ..needs a new belt ..where would i find one ..but everything works including the stylus whic i bought in 1984ish..hardly used tapedecks were in then ..
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My home stereo system is now 35 years old...but my portable radio (inherited) is 50...
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actually following up on all the old tvs an such i realized my oldist electronics was a jvc nivico turntable i bought for 25.00 dols when i was 18...that would make it over
35 yrs ago ..plus probaly ten years old when i got it in 1979ish ..needs a new belt ..where would i find one ..but everything works including the stylus whic i bought in 1984ish..hardly used tapedecks were in then ..
You'll have to take the belt out and measure it. It'll be stretched so buy a belt that's shorter. If it's missing you'll probably have to buy a few before you get it right. Should be a service manual for it somewhere, but the right belt will be out there and there's plenty on ebay to choose from.