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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: carvedeye on May 25, 2014, 12:05:45 AM

Title: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on May 25, 2014, 12:05:45 AM
HI all is there a cheap solution to get USB working with the mediator boards?
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: danbeaver on May 25, 2014, 12:52:26 AM
You can try to find a modified NEC USB card where the manufacturer code is changed to the one ELBOX picked, find a card supported by the openPCI library and then find the documentation on how to set it up, or pay $90 USD plus $40 shipping for a Spider II.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: klx300r on May 25, 2014, 01:02:45 AM
I'd get a Spider II from a Elbox now that their in stock. Supporting current Amiga manufacturers can only be a good thing for Future developments & support.

Look at it this way it's still 2 x cheaper than a used Subway USB !
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Darrin on May 25, 2014, 01:55:59 AM
Are they in stock?  I don't see them on the AmigaKit website.  I have a real Spider II and a hacked USB card and they both work well (lots of USB ports on my machine).  If you do track down a hacked card then you also have to find the older drivers for it, because the new Mediator drivers won't work.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: klx300r on May 25, 2014, 02:02:46 AM
Bought one a few weeks ago straight off Elbox's homepage with no problems.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: danbeaver on May 25, 2014, 05:47:45 AM
Oops, my bad!  I misdefined "cheap" as being inexpensive.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: klx300r on May 25, 2014, 06:15:33 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;765000
Oops, my bad!  I misdefined "cheap" as being inexpensive.

nah it's pretty clear what's being 'defined' here unfortunately.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Lurch on May 25, 2014, 06:37:26 AM
Just post a wanted ad on Amibay for a flashed USB card for a Mediator. Usually go for $20-$40 USD :-)

I purchased a card a while back, this is the original purchase thread. from memory it's an open pci library supported card that I bought.

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?46771-USB-PCI-Cards

Maybe you could PM marmes :-)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on May 25, 2014, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: Lurch;765008
Just post a wanted ad on Amibay for a flashed USB card for a Mediator. Usually go for $20-$40 USD :-)

I purchased a card a while back, this is the original purchase thread. from memory it's an open pci library supported card that I bought.

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?46771-USB-PCI-Cards

Maybe you could PM marmes :-)


Thanks Lurch wil send a PM to see if there are any left :)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Lurch on May 25, 2014, 10:33:56 AM
Quote from: carvedeye;765018
Thanks Lurch wil send a PM to see if there are any left :)


Let me know how you get on, will take a look and see if I can find my card. I put some items away for storage, so will have a dig.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on May 25, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
Quote from: Lurch;765019
Let me know how you get on, will take a look and see if I can find my card. I put some items away for storage, so will have a dig.


No probs :)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Lurch on June 05, 2014, 01:49:36 AM
I found the card, don't mind sending it to you for nothing :-) Just PM me your address :-)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on June 05, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
WOW really? Thanks Lurch PM on its way:)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 01, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
Lurch was very kind to send me a USB card to be used with the openPCI library and now i just need to set it up is there any one who can help with this ?

TIA
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Bamiga2002 on July 02, 2014, 09:42:20 AM
Quote from: Darrin;764988
...If you do track down a hacked card then you also have to find the older drivers for it, because the new Mediator drivers won't work.

This isn't true, the hacked cards DO work with newest spider.device.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 02, 2014, 09:57:15 AM
Quote from: Bamiga2002;768063
This isn't true, the hacked cards DO work with newest spider.device.


Do you know where i can these files and what software do i use to set it up?
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 04, 2014, 04:06:47 PM
I have e-mailed elbox to see if i can get the spider.device sent to me but to no avail, is there other ways of obtaining it :)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Gulliver on July 05, 2014, 02:43:16 AM
Send me a PM with your email address :)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 08, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
I have got hold of the spider.device and i also have posiedon v4 just need to know where to put the spider.device?
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 08, 2014, 11:45:34 PM
Ok i have everything installed and working i have tried my TDK USB flash drive and it pops up saying it is detected but how do i get it to show up on my workbench screen?
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 09, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
I have also tried my HP wireless mouse and it works perfectly, i am able to use my 2 gb flash drive as my TDK is 8 gb which im guessing that is why it doesnt pop up on my workbench screen, i have to say USB cards on the amiga are fantastic thanks to everyone who helped and an even bigger thank you to Lurch for giving me the card i really appreciate it mate :)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: slaapliedje on July 09, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
Quote from: carvedeye;768535
I have also tried my HP wireless mouse and it works perfectly, i am able to use my 2 gb flash drive as my TDK is 8 gb which im guessing that is why it doesnt pop up on my workbench screen, i have to say USB cards on the amiga are fantastic thanks to everyone who helped and an even bigger thank you to Lurch for giving me the card i really appreciate it mate :)

I have two 8GB USB flash sticks.  One works fantastically, it's a really cheap sandisk or something (can't recall, one of those black ones with the white button/switch to make it come out.)  And the other one... it's a USB 3.0 one, that is based around NAND flash.  Really nice, but the Amiga doesn't want to read it for some reason.  

But I do know that an 8GB one should work.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 09, 2014, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: slaapliedje;768536
I have two 8GB USB flash sticks.  One works fantastically, it's a really cheap sandisk or something (can't recall, one of those black ones with the white button/switch to make it come out.)  And the other one... it's a USB 3.0 one, that is based around NAND flash.  Really nice, but the Amiga doesn't want to read it for some reason.  

But I do know that an 8GB one should work.

slaapliedje


Re-formatted it to fat32 and it now works a treat :)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: carvedeye on July 09, 2014, 10:41:10 AM
i have plugged in a trident USB joypad and it is recognised but how do i use it to play games?
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Lurch on July 09, 2014, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: carvedeye;768535
.... even bigger thank you to Lurch for giving me the card i really appreciate it mate :)


No problem, just glad to help a fellow Amigian out :-) USB is great, only downside is WHDLoad doesn't like it so you have to disable the USB stack before starting WHDLoad.

Which is pretty easy to do now that WHDLoad has the line for the posiden stack. Just need to edit Whdload.prefs and enable te startup/cleanup files and then enable the posiden lines in those :-)

Anyway enjoy :-)
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: danbeaver on July 09, 2014, 01:29:22 PM
The gamepad will be an issue.  Non-WHDload games will be a problem as well as they "bang the hardware," or were written for the mouse port.  Newer games might work, but dont hold your breath.
Title: Re: Cheap Solution for USB with mediator LT4?
Post by: Dandy on July 15, 2014, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;764975


HI all is there a cheap solution to get USB working with the mediator boards?



Hmmmm - I should have an old Spider II USB2.0 from Elbox lying around somewhere...