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Title: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on May 06, 2014, 04:07:31 AM
I originally bought this stuff to put into my Emax samplers, but these SCSI to IDE bridges would not work with the Emax, so when I recently decided to resurrect my Amiga's (they have been packed away for over 10 years) I thought I would try them in my Amiga 2000HD, the first IDE to CF adapters I tried, did not work, so I tried some other ones I had, and they worked fine!
The Amiga is now setup with 2x 4 gig compact flash drives, a cd rom, tape drive and an 88 meg Syquest drive, it also has 2 DPS TBCII's and a PAR
card (looking for a hard drive for it).
My Video Toaster had packed it in so I bought a couple off ebay, but neither one worked, so now I have to try and get my money back from that a$$hole.
I am still looking for some other parts and pieces to get it back up to the way I had it back in the day, but I am not desperate enough to pay the exorbitant prices some people are asking for parts, so it will continue to be a work in progress for a while yet.
All-in-all, is been kinda fun (and sometimes frustrating) re-learning how to do this stuff.

Dave
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: danbeaver on May 06, 2014, 07:21:09 AM
So you are asking for help with?
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on May 06, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
I am not asking for help with anything, I just thought some people might be interested in this.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: gertsy on May 06, 2014, 02:00:53 PM
Quote from: DWV;763868
I am not asking for help with anything, I just thought some people might be interested in this.


I am. Where did you get the SCSI-IDE adaptor from?  Do you know the brand/model?  

Cheers on the working 2000.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on May 06, 2014, 06:42:03 PM
Love it!  I too use CF drives in my A2000, but I went with a Mechware card reader (sadly no longer available and $$$ when they show up on Ebay or Amibay).  Congrats on getting your old system working again, 2000's are a lot of fun.  Check that battery if you haven't already!  ;)
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on May 06, 2014, 07:10:34 PM
I bought these off Ebay about 5 years ago, the model numbers are
I-O Data IDSC21-E
I-O Data R-IDSC-E/R
ACard AEC7720U

The ACard was the only one that would work in the Emax, so it is in it.
Both the I-O Data cards work fine in the Amiga, most CF adapters should work, I am using a HXSP-2108P, it is a dual CF adapter, but the SCSI/IDE bridge only supports 1 card, I found an adapter that looks like it is the single version of this one, once they get here, I'll test them out and report the results here.
The SCSI/IDE bridge only uses the CF card that is set to Master, and since you can set either CF card to Master on the CF adapter,  you could wire a switch to the Master/Slave jumper and switch between them.
I have not tried this (yet) so I don't know if you could switch between them live, or if a reboot would be required.

Dave
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on May 06, 2014, 08:27:36 PM
EDIT:
I tried the adapter using 2 CF cards, you can switch between them, but it requires a reboot. The Amiga only sees the card that was enabled at start up, switching to the other card has no effect, the Amiga will still read/write to the original card.
This would work well in combination with a ROM switcher, you could then have 2 operating systems on one machine.

Dave
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: gertsy on May 07, 2014, 08:23:23 AM
Thanks for the info Dave. Maybe I can get rid of that "bhd" Buddha Hard Drive, in my signature. Haven't been able to get a CF IDE adaptor working on it.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: gary2000 on May 07, 2014, 03:28:02 PM
I use an original Buddha IDE w/ $2 ebay CF adapter & Sandisk CF (after changing bit in DOS machine).

It works, but sometimes gives errors on boot- maybe CF is going bad?
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: danbeaver on May 07, 2014, 04:08:05 PM
I had an A2000 with one of Mech's SCSI CF card readers and although it was hot swappable, the boot "drive" could only be changed through assign commands or a reboot.  It was cool to see it boot from an SD card.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: spirantho on May 07, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
Quote from: gertsy;763948
Thanks for the info Dave. Maybe I can get rid of that "bhd" Buddha Hard Drive, in my signature. Haven't been able to get a CF IDE adaptor working on it.


My Catweasel Zorro MkII has one of those Disk-On-Module solid state 4GB drives on it - works absolutely perfectly. The drive is shared between the A2000 (actually an A1500) and the Goldengate inside it. No silly cables or anything, just plugs straight onto the Catweasel (which has a Buddah built in) - but it does require a bit of juggling to get everything inside the case!
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: Matt_H on May 07, 2014, 05:55:14 PM
Get in touch with Newtek. They should be able to repair your Toaster(s).
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on May 07, 2014, 07:27:02 PM
I did, but Newtek no longer supports or repairs them.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: gertsy on May 08, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: gary2000;763965
I use an original Buddha IDE w/ $2 ebay CF adapter & Sandisk CF (after changing bit in DOS machine).

It works, but sometimes gives errors on boot- maybe CF is going bad?


What size CF Card are you using?
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on May 08, 2014, 06:28:24 PM
Quote from: gary2000;763965
I use an original Buddha IDE w/ $2 ebay CF adapter & Sandisk CF (after changing bit in DOS machine).

It works, but sometimes gives errors on boot- maybe CF is going bad?

If I formatted my 4 gig cards as one large partition, I would also get occasional errors, but with them formatted as 2- 2 gig partitions, I have had no problems at all.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on May 29, 2014, 03:47:44 AM
It was pouring rain today, so I decided to do some mods to my CF cards, to make them accessible from the front, I think it turned out pretty good.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: gertsy on May 30, 2014, 09:01:08 AM
Looks good. So you don't need the Zip drive anymore.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on May 30, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
Nice work!  Great looking A2000!   :pint:
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: DWV on September 06, 2014, 07:38:40 AM
Well it looks like I am going to have a lot of time to play around with the Amigas, I had a major heart attack on august 1, and I am not allowed to do much of anything for at least 3 months. I am starting to get around a bit now and decided to get the third CF card installed in the Amiga, this one is accessed from the back, so now the back one is DH0 and houses all the programs and the front two are dedicated drives for the Video toaster and AD516
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: Darth_X on September 06, 2014, 08:04:34 AM
Quote from: DWV;763854
I originally bought this stuff to put into my Emax samplers, but these SCSI to IDE bridges would not work with the Emax, so when I recently decided to resurrect my Amiga's (they have been packed away for over 10 years) I thought I would try them in my Amiga 2000HD, the first IDE to CF adapters I tried, did not work, so I tried some other ones I had, and they worked fine!
The Amiga is now setup with 2x 4 gig compact flash drives, a cd rom, tape drive and an 88 meg Syquest drive, it also has 2 DPS TBCII's and a PAR
card (looking for a hard drive for it).
My Video Toaster had packed it in so I bought a couple off ebay, but neither one worked, so now I have to try and get my money back from that a$$hole.
I am still looking for some other parts and pieces to get it back up to the way I had it back in the day, but I am not desperate enough to pay the exorbitant prices some people are asking for parts, so it will continue to be a work in progress for a while yet.
All-in-all, is been kinda fun (and sometimes frustrating) re-learning how to do this stuff.

Dave

Its nice to see more people popping in here lately from BC. I'm on Vancouver Island myself.
There are lots of people in Vancouver city who are Amiga fans, and even people there who fix Amigas.

For the Video Toaster cards, you might go on NewTek's forums? There's probably people there who know how to fix the cards.

BTW, did you check out http://www.amigalounge.com ? Glen's in Edmonton, and he's recently been selling Amiga stuff from site. He had an A4000D Video Toaster system on there last weekend, but I think its sold now. He might come across more video toaster stuff, you never know, and he can test it to make sure it works, before he ships it out.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: Darth_X on September 06, 2014, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: DWV;772411
Well it looks like I am going to have a lot of time to play around with the Amigas, I had a major heart attack on august 1, and I am not allowed to do much of anything for at least 3 months. I am starting to get around a bit now and decided to get the third CF card installed in the Amiga, this one is accessed from the back, so now the back one is DH0 and houses all the programs and the front two are dedicated drives for the Video toaster and AD516


My Dad had a heart attack last year and required 6 bypass surgery. Victoria has the Best Heart surgeons in Canada! Anyways, he's in his 60s and is doing fine now.
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: gertsy on September 07, 2014, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: DWV;772411
Well it looks like I am going to have a lot of time to play around with the Amigas, I had a major heart attack on august 1, and I am not allowed to do much of anything for at least 3 months. I am starting to get around a bit now and decided to get the third CF card installed in the Amiga, this one is accessed from the back, so now the back one is DH0 and houses all the programs and the front two are dedicated drives for the Video toaster and AD516


So sorry to hear about the heart attack.  I hope everything is as good as it can be, and you make a full recovery. I guess you're on a cocktail of medication daily now.  Not the best of ways to free up time for your Amiga's.  
I suppose it's a message that us oldies are not as young as we once used to be. Time for a check up?

Once again all the best. A distraction can only be good, yeah?
Title: Re: CF Drives in Amiga 2000HD
Post by: kjmann on September 07, 2014, 02:55:53 AM
Sorry to hear about the heart problem dude. hope you get well soon. I use the IO Data SCSI2IDE Bridges as well. I have noticed that these are the only ones that seem to work on the Amigas. I've tried 3 other brands and No Dice.

I use them with a IDE to SATA adapter and they are awesome. the speed is amazing.

I have an 80 gig on my main a2000 and a 40 gig on the other one both running OS3.9

-Sal (Kjmann)