Amiga.org

Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: nicholas on April 21, 2014, 03:06:49 PM

Title: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: nicholas on April 21, 2014, 03:06:49 PM
Eight years since Starstruck amazed us and they come back with this beauty!

68k. AGA. :o

http://youtu.be/fJ9jP4RVGBM
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: rvo_nl on April 21, 2014, 03:20:33 PM
I think you forget the most important thing:
 
 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=62977
 
 the download link :)
 
 and yes, it is amazing!
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: VingtTrois on April 21, 2014, 04:01:09 PM
Yeah! (http://www.amibay.com/images/smilies/great.gif)

I also noticed this (see below), at the REVISION 2014 awards ceremony :)

PC 8K Demo:

(http://s3.postimg.org/n91j001jn/REVISION_PC_8_K.jpg)
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: Djole on April 21, 2014, 07:28:59 PM
TBL moved the border again.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: nicholas on April 21, 2014, 08:25:30 PM
Quote from: rvo_nl;763021
I think you forget the most important thing:
 
 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=62977
 
 the download link :)
 
 and yes, it is amazing!

It wasn't up at the time.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: NovaCoder on April 21, 2014, 09:12:08 PM
Very nice to see TBL giving us something new after all these years....AGA all the way baby :)


[youtube]W5_NMxW5UfE[/youtube]



Update: Download and running it on my A1200 now and it's awesome!
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: yssing on April 22, 2014, 11:31:23 AM
Very cool.
Those guys are amazing
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: JohnFante on April 22, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
Doesn't work for me :-(.

I get this error on my A4000 with CSPPC.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: Djole on April 22, 2014, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: JohnFante;763082
Doesn't work for me :-(.

I get this error on my A4000 with CSPPC.

Any suggestions?



Try booting without startup-sequence, just run setpatch. Also it needs 060 at least i think.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: JohnFante on April 22, 2014, 07:15:47 PM
Did not do trick! I get an error saying I can syspend og reboot.

I have a 060 so it is not that.

Strange!
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: NovaCoder on April 23, 2014, 03:52:09 AM
Quote from: JohnFante;763087
Did not do trick! I get an error saying I can syspend og reboot.

I have a 060 so it is not that.

Strange!

You need to create a 'special' boot disk (floppy).   This is what I use when I run into problems running demos on my 060 3.9 setup (most work straight from WB but some won't play nice).

I just copied my 3.1 boot disk onto a spare floppy and then added the 'dummy' 040 library and P5 060 library, I think that was all I needed to do.  

I remember having to make some space to copy the libraries onto the floppy, I just deleted some stuff I didn't need like printer devices etc.

The only other thing I can think of is lack of FASTRAM, how much do you have?
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: Britelite on April 23, 2014, 06:20:42 AM
Quote from: NovaCoder;763115
You need to create a 'special' boot disk (floppy).   This is what I use when I run into problems running demos on my 060 3.9 setup (most work straight from WB but some won't play nice).

Usually just booting without startup-sequence and running setpatch is needed to get demos to run.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: carls on April 23, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: JohnFante;763082
Doesn't work for me :-(.

I get this error on my A4000 with CSPPC.

Any suggestions?


How much free chipmem do you have? What does "avail" say about largest block?
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: psxphill on April 23, 2014, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: Djole;763032
TBL moved the border again.

If it's all software rendered in real time then it's kinda impressive, although needing an 060 puts it out of the reach of the majority.
 
I didn't like the music or the style of the demo though & I'll be more impressed when someone does a c64 redux of it.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: paul1981 on April 24, 2014, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: JohnFante;763082
Doesn't work for me :-(.

I get this error on my A4000 with CSPPC.

Any suggestions?

I think it needs 64MB ram as not working on my Apollo1260/32MB either.
Also remember to set stack in shell to 100000 and then run the .exe (or use the supplied startup script).
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: Thorham on April 24, 2014, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: psxphill;763161
If it's all software rendered in real time
That's the whole point of those demos. It wouldn't be impressive if it was just an animation ;)
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: LiveForIt on April 24, 2014, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: psxphill;763161
If it's all software rendered in real time then it's kinda impressive, although needing an 060 puts it out of the reach of the majority.
 
I didn't like the music or the style of the demo though & I'll be more impressed when someone does a c64 redux of it.


when some one makes a even lower resolution version of it that needs less CPU power.

C64 demos are extreme in that 100% optimized, some of demos will unroll loops while the demo runs, most of the tricks are done using translation tables, to avoid checks.

But lets say that 68060 demos are already using this tricks, then there is no way you can improve on it, unless you drop the fps.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: LiveForIt on April 24, 2014, 05:55:08 PM
Quote from: Thorham;763220
That's the whole point of those demos. It wouldn't be impressive if it was just an animation ;)

Maybe not, but even if it was I enjoy the music and art & firework a demo is.
More and more often I find my self just looking at demos on YouTube.
Is I'm NG users, it does make sense to run in on OS4, fake AGA modes are slow and does support 320x200 only 640x480, and can't run any of demos in EUAE, because EUAE PowerPC jit is limited to 68020.

anyway its not so impressive run the demo that was designed for 50Mhz on 1800Mhz, its bit silly :-D, anyway who cares, there is YouTube.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: Lurch on April 26, 2014, 10:23:16 PM
Sad, locks up on me when the animated blue cube comes up :/

Looks good though, but don't really want to watch a youtube video.

Probably some patch I'm running. Might have to make a boot disk.
Title: Re: The Black Lotus - Rift
Post by: JohnFante on April 27, 2014, 08:22:41 AM
I finally got around to this again.

Loading from a 3.1 WB floppy with 040 and 060 libraries copied to it did the trick.

Still amazing what AGA can do after all these years!!

Thank you for you help!