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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: VingtTrois on April 20, 2014, 09:29:41 PM
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PT-1210 Mk1 Protracker Turntable Software for Amiga - Released at Revision 2014 in Saarbrücken, Germany.
[youtube]4lZwY2dbkSM[/youtube]
http://pt1210.kikencorp.com/
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Classic Amiga, MorphOS, AROS, and I guess the expensive OS 4 needs more productive applications like this. I love it!
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Does this software require the Amigas to be linked via nullmodem/parnet cables? Been trying to find info on how to use it, but details/info is very sketchy. Looks cool, but would like more info on how to use/set up.
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Does this software require the Amigas to be linked via nullmodem/parnet cables? Been trying to find info on how to use it, but details/info is very sketchy. Looks cool, but would like more info on how to use/set up.
No the two amigas are independent. both running the same piece of software. Each amiga does not, and doesn't need to, know of the other amigas existence. They are just like two decks, or cdjs or whatever.
Look up digital djing, things like traktor and deckadance. This amiga program is like these programs except it works on mods rather than mp3s or whatever
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Does this software require the Amigas to be linked via nullmodem/parnet cables? Been trying to find info on how to use it, but details/info is very sketchy. Looks cool, but would like more info on how to use/set up.
AMIGA(s) with 2MB of ChipRAM are better.
The manual is coming soon!
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Does this software require the Amigas to be linked via nullmodem/parnet cables?
The thumbnail of the video says it all: beatmatching skills not included ;)
Been trying to find info on how to use it, but details/info is very sketchy.
There's nothing sketchy about the info, it's all in the README included in the archive. A more detailed PDF manual will come soon as I manage to finish it.
Vingtrois, please don't hotlink directly to the download, so people can at least read the website and get an idea of what is going on and download the module packs if they want.
The official link is http://pt1210.kikencorp.com
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The thumbnail of the video says it all: beatmatching skills not included ;)
Not worried about that bit, I started DJing in clubs in the late 90s :)
There's nothing sketchy about the info, it's all in the README included in the archive.
Ah ok, with respect I found the information on the announcements, video and several forum threads sketchy. The info is probably all in the readme like you said, but I hadn't downloaded it as A) Thought I probably needed a link cable which I don't have, and B) Was at work on OS X not back to my Amiga yet.
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Can't get it to work on my Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1260. Just locks up when I open it. Has ClassicWB on it if it matters.
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Downloading and testing right now!
Thanks
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Can't get it to work on my Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1260. Just locks up when I open it. Has ClassicWB on it if it matters.
Did you load straight to it or did you execute it from Workbench?
I don't check a.org that much really so if you can send us an email to pt1210@kikencorp.com with more details i'd really appreciate it.
The software is supposed to be run independently and not from Workbench, if you did load it from WB, try again loading straight from it. If you loaded straight to it, we'll check it out, although it'd be hard to test as we don't have an 060 for dev purposes :(
Ah ok, with respect I found the information on the announcements, video and several forum threads sketchy.
Well "sketchy" means shady or conspicuous, I'd say you mean "slightly lacking" because there's nothing dangerous about PT-1210 :).
The requirements may not have been clear and I can correct that on the web, but basically it is because you don't need anything but an Amiga. Why did you think a parallel cable was needed if it wasn't mentioned anywhere? :)
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Ah ok, with respect I found the information on the announcements, video and several forum threads sketchy.
Well "sketchy" means shady or conspicuous, I'd say you mean "slightly lacking".
The requirements may not have been clear and I can correct that on the web, but basically it is because you don't need anything but an Amiga. Why did you think a parallel cable was needed if it wasn't mentioned anywhere? :)
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WANT.
That is all.
Actually all my amiga kit is sadly packed in boxes at this time :(
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Well "sketchy" means shady or conspicuous, I'd say you mean "slightly lacking" because there's nothing dangerous about PT-1210 :).
Seems it means something different on different sides of the pond:
sketchy
adjective
1. not thorough or detailed.
"the information they had was sketchy"
synonyms: incomplete, inadequate, limited, patchy, scrappy, bitty, fragmentary, rudimentary; More
2. (NORTH AMERICAN informal)
dishonest or disreputable.
"once the story does come out, the fact that you tried to hide it will seem sketchy"
Over here in UK it's the first one :)
The requirements may not have been clear and I can correct that on the web, but basically it is because you don't need anything but an Amiga. Why did you think a parallel cable was needed if it wasn't mentioned anywhere? :)
Yeah that would be useful, brilliant news too. Maybe because I always needed one when linking two Amigas for music (Octamed etc.) back in the day. But nice to hear that, will give it a download this week.
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Seems it means something different on different sides of the pond:
Seriously, thanks for that, I didn't know :D
I use American English, hence my confusion.
Yeah that would be useful, brilliant news too. Maybe because I always needed one when linking two Amigas for music (Octamed etc.) back in the day. But nice to hear that, will give it a download this week.
Yeah but there's never been any linking whatsoever implied in anything we said, so I find it odd. Some people have asked for some sort of sync possibility, but we don't want to have that.
QuillOmega0: a friend of us just tested the software on his Cyberstorm MK3 060@66 and it worked just fine. If you get back to us with more info we can probably narrow down your problem.
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I had some problems starting the software on NTSC A1200.
I found out that I need to boot into PAL mode and then select PAL screenmode from WB PREFS to get it working (before starting the SW).
Also, you need to have some MOD files in the same DIR as the executable.
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I had some problems starting the software on NTSC A1200.
I found out that I need to boot into PAL mode and then select PAL screenmode from WB PREFS to get it working (before starting the SW).
Hmm, strange, worth a check, but possible. We live in Europe and have PAL Amigas.
Please, I said this before: DON'T START IT FROM WORKBENCH. You're not supposed to. Who knows what patches/tweaks/whatever you have that might or might not conflict with the software. If you are setting screenmodes with Prefs, you booted Workbench and, therefore, are doing it wrong.
Everybody running clean into PT-1210 is not having any problems.
Also, you need to have some MOD files in the same DIR as the executable.
Yes, it is in the readme, that you need to have modules otherwise the software won't start.
But actually, if PT-1210 is in the path (like, in C: ) and your current directory has mod files, you invoke it and it will run reading those mod files.
You reminded me that the ADF version comes with no README in the archive (it has the readme in the ADF though, quit PT1210 and it will be displayed), so I updated the archive with it and it's available on the website.
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Booted from floppy, even with the Blizzard 1260 disabled it locks up. Used two different floppies same issue.
It is an NTSC Amiga so I'll try again with a switch to PAL.
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It might be that, Amiman did report problems on NTSC. but I have successful reports from PAL Amigas on 060s.
Please let me know!
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Yep that did the trick.
Switching the Amiga over to PAL mode allowed it to run without issue.
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So I am adding to the list of stuff we gotta check, NTSC support.
Having in mind , what, 90% of software is made for PAL Amigas, I'm not too worried at the moment about supporting it, but it needs to be added to the documentation.
Thanks guys!!
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Akira
After months of excitment of waiting for this cool program i cant get it to run. I tried it on both an A600 w 1mb ram 3.1 rom from floppy and hd, and from an 1200 2mb 3.1 rom from floppy both NTSC. i dont think this program supports NTSC? It loads to a point then its a blank screen. When i try from shell nothing happens?? is it PAL only? How to force PAL mode to test? early startup screen does NOT hold PAl mode.
btw I have an a500 w/ 1.3 500mb chip and 4.5 fast should I try to run it there for testing for you? (Its NTSC as well)
As you can see there are MANY NTSC users around. Lots of Lurkers are NTSC based.
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Yep that did the trick.
Switching the Amiga over to PAL mode allowed it to run without issue.
When you say "Swithcing over to PAL" how exactly do you mean? I selected PAL from early startup and boot from floppy no workee
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Akira
After months of excitment of waiting for this cool program i cant get it to run. I tried it on both an A600 w 1mb ram 3.1 rom from floppy and hd, and from an 1200 2mb 3.1 rom from floppy both NTSC. i dont think this program supports NTSC? It loads to a point then its a blank screen. When i try from shell nothing happens?? is it PAL only? How to force PAL mode to test? early startup screen does NOT hold PAl mode.
btw I have an a500 w/ 1.3 500mb chip and 4.5 fast should I try to run it there for testing for you? (Its NTSC as well)
As you can see there are MANY NTSC users around. Lots of Lurkers are NTSC based.
I have NTSC A1200 and I got it to work.
Boot to PAL and Run the SW, if you are running from WB (which is not really supported) select PAL screenmode. The screen went blank, Then I started clicking mouse buttons, left and right and the program started. Weird but works.
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When you say "Swithcing over to PAL" how exactly do you mean? I selected PAL from early startup and boot from floppy no workee
Hold down both mouse buttons to go to Early Startup Control. Display Options, Set Display Type: PAL.
I left Chip Type at Best Available and this allowed me to run the software fine. An dno, it does not hold PAL mode, which means everytime you want to run the software, you'll need to switch it to PAL from the ESC.
And to assist in eventually debugging the NTSC issue, I should note that the problem seems to be reproducible in WinUAE as well.
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Now I really really need to get an A600!
I don't think toting around the A4000T is a good idea. :laughing:
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Is there a way to boot a NTSC amiga into PAL from disk? Like with relokick(sp) or something similar? I've never had to use a "Degrader"
Akira/Hoffman
Any comments on NTSC support?
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Akira? Hoffman? u guys around?
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Ok well here is an update.
I got it launching on my a600 ntsc. Just use early startup and select PAL screenmode and be sure to press another key to activate the mode. Then the program will start. This is from floppy. Will try from hd and report back.
Full NTSC support would be nice as some part of the screen is cut off and I cant adjust it with Overscan any lower.
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So I am adding to the list of stuff we gotta check, NTSC support.
Having in mind , what, 90% of software is made for PAL Amigas, I'm not too worried at the moment about supporting it, but it needs to be added to the documentation.
Thanks guys!!
Hi Akira
I know you dont post here much but i'm really trying to get some usage out of your software. Is NTSC support still planned? This would really bring more users as the PAl thing is a PITA on NTSC amigas.
Also really need is the docs in .pdf format as stated on the site "coming soon" a couple of tutorials would be coool.
To anyone who hasnt tried this and likes electronic music its a MUST one of the coolest amiga apps ever!
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Not worried about that bit, I started DJing in clubs in the late 90s :)
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Oh man - that makes me feel like a granddad. I stopped DJing 1980...
:D
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Hi Akira
I know you dont post here much but i'm really trying to get some usage out of your software. Is NTSC support still planned? This would really bring more users as the PAl thing is a PITA on NTSC amigas.
Also really need is the docs in .pdf format as stated on the site "coming soon" a couple of tutorials would be coool.
To anyone who hasnt tried this and likes electronic music its a MUST one of the coolest amiga apps ever!
Hey man,
yeah, we've been out of the loop for a while. All these things are still on our bucket list. We will get to them as soon as we can dedicate some more time to further develop PT-1210!