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Title: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 13, 2004, 12:39:35 PM
Wonderful.

Not happy :-(

(Shingles is the adult new and improved edition of chicken pox)
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: bloodline on February 13, 2004, 12:42:59 PM
Eh? Have you contracted it?
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: KennyR on February 13, 2004, 12:48:01 PM
Eow - very painful. Best get those zovirax tablets from the doctor as soon as possible.

Herpes zoster sucks...
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: JaXanim on February 13, 2004, 12:56:45 PM
Yea, very painful! You usually succomb when you get a bit run down.

I got them on my thigh of all places. I had to paint this anti-viral stuff on using a brush. It contained dimethylsulphoxide as the carrier. This is a mighty powerful solvent and skin penetrator. Within 30 seconds of putting it on my leg, I could taste it on my tongue!

Took several weeks to eradicate the bug.

This was before Zovirax came out.

Cheers,

JaX
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 13, 2004, 01:15:35 PM
I've been prescribed something called 'famvir', plus some anti-biotic cream.

This feels like running through stinging nettles three times a day, and I've got it on my hip, so major clothes chafing :-(

6 - 7 week treatment still though :-(

Though the tablets are only for one week, so maybe it calms down after the first week... fingers crossed :-)
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: bloodline on February 13, 2004, 01:17:21 PM
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anti-biotic cream


But it's a Virus!?!?
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: KennyR on February 13, 2004, 01:18:55 PM
Yes, it's a virus, but it damages the skin and allows bacteria in, and they can do more damage than the virus can.

I don't fancy the sensation of putting any kind of cream on a shingles rash, though. Ouch!
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 13, 2004, 02:07:47 PM
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bloodline wrote:
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anti-biotic cream

But it's a Virus!?!?

But not like mydoom.  I haven't been accepting post with green vapour coming off of it :-D
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: JaXanim on February 13, 2004, 07:09:25 PM
I think all these '..vir..' preparations contain Aciclovir. It's used for cold sores too (another herpes virus type).

If you need this stuff, avoid the original (Zovirax) version, which is 50% more expensive than later formulations. Just look for Aciclovir in the ingredients.

Cheers,

JaX
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 13, 2004, 08:53:37 PM
Hey, I live in the UK.  We don't have to directly pay (full price) for prescriptions, so ner! :-D
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 13, 2004, 08:55:57 PM
I don't get it, I read from the dictionary that shingles is an infection on nerves. But on wich nerves? I mean, one nerve is nothing alike the other.
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 13, 2004, 09:06:27 PM
A URL I found on the subject (http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/shingles_doc.htm)

Nearly all my family have had it.  I remember one of my brothers having it all over his upper chest.  It looks like a number of really angry red blotches, like someone diving naked into a field of stinging nettles (feels like it too).

The red blotches are open sores of sorts.  Advertising for other bugs to come and infect the body.

Other than the pain and blotches, I haven't noticed any other symptoms.  I had a headache, but down to the frequent needling sort of pain from the blotches.
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: JaXanim on February 13, 2004, 10:54:40 PM
It'll take a few weeks. Dress lightly, move slowly. Rest a lot.

Cheers,

JaX
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 13, 2004, 10:55:44 PM
And get well soon
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: smithy on February 13, 2004, 11:03:34 PM
Sorry to hear that mate.  My Dad got Shingles a few months ago.  It took him at least 6-8 weeks to start to feel better again.  The painful bit is that it inflames nerve endings - usually in your legs.

Anyway - good luck with that.

As it happens, I'm suffering at the moment with a variant of the same virus (Herpes) that causes Shingles.  I've got something that resembles a coldsore on my top lip   :-(  It was burning like hell yesterday, but today it's a little better.

Some interesting facts about Herpes Simplex A (the coldsore type):

1.  80% of people have it.
2.  Only 25% of people that have it ever have any symptoms.
3.  Most of those that do get symptoms, never have repeat symptoms.
4.  You can pass it to your eyelids, fingers or genitals if you touch the coldsore and immediately rub your eye (or somewhere else).
5.  Many coldsores that start don't actually develop into full coldsores (this is what I presume has happened to me).
6.  If you feel one coming on, slap on the Zovirax which can also stop it developing.

Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 18, 2004, 07:48:23 PM
On a happy note, within one week of medication, it's already starting to die down! Yay!

I'm sure it'll linger for quite a while longer, but hopefully I'm over the worst of it already.

One of the few occasions I hail modern medicine... creating something that cures a problem rather than trying to cover it up.

Me happy :-)
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 18, 2004, 07:54:43 PM
Good for you :-)

My mum thought she had shingles last year, but it turned out to be Stevens Johnson Syndrome - very nasty...
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 18, 2004, 07:55:55 PM
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mikeymike wrote:
Me happy :-)
:pint: :pint: :pint: (and so on)
:-)
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: Cyberus on February 18, 2004, 08:06:45 PM
This thread has a huge amount of views considering...:lol:
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: redrumloa on February 18, 2004, 08:21:37 PM
Ouch sorry to hear:-(

I pretty much know how you feel though. I had Chicken Pox as an adult about 7 years ago and it was the absolute most miserable experiences I have ever had, topped only by when I had Mono as a teen. It's much worse to get as an adult than it is as a kid.

Get well soon dude.
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 18, 2004, 08:43:58 PM
Funnily enough except for the sores and related pain, I don't feel any other symptoms.  Maybe occasional grogginess, but nothing serious.
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: sir_inferno on February 18, 2004, 09:09:51 PM
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Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: JaXanim on February 18, 2004, 09:14:00 PM
Another interesting, if somewhat useless bit of info about cold sores is they need light (maybe uv light) to develop properly.

So, if you feel a tingle in the lip, slap on the '..vir..' and sit in a dark room for three days. It probably won't make much difference, but you'll get the rest you need.

Cheers,

JaX
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: mikeymike on February 18, 2004, 09:24:53 PM
@ JaXanim

A bit of info to back that up perhaps - the sores from my shinges didn't hurt or look half as angry when I had pads covering them up as they did when open.
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: adz on February 18, 2004, 09:45:34 PM
@mikeymike

Get well soon dude, I havn't even had chicken pox yet (thank the maker for the vacine), hope all goes well for you.
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: KennyR on February 18, 2004, 09:58:36 PM
Get well soon, but I want to mention something to get you prepared for it. The rash is only the first part of the infection, even if it does feel like you've been boiled.

After that you get pain in your nerves (posttheraputic neuralgia) caused by the damage that can last months longer. When my father had shingles, he got this particularly badly in his left arm for several months. You get another cream (zostrix) to deal with this. It takes weeks to work but will shorten the neuralgia recovery period a lot.
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: whabang on February 18, 2004, 10:06:58 PM
Yikes!
Get better soon, dude!
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: whabang on February 18, 2004, 10:09:15 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Get well soon, but I want to mention something to get you prepared for it. The rash is only the first part of the infection, even if it does feel like you've been boiled.

After that you get pain in your nerves (posttheraputic neuralgia) caused by the damage that can last months longer. When my father had shingles, he got this particularly badly in his left arm for several months. You get another cream (zostrix) to deal with this. It takes weeks to work but will shorten the neuralgia recovery period a lot.

Yeah! That sure made him fell better! :-D
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: JaXanim on February 18, 2004, 11:09:59 PM
How to avoid shingles?

Don't get chickenpox as a kid.

If you do, try to avoid stress in adulthood.

Shingles waits around for years, waiting 'til you're a little down, before it strikes. It got me as I was digging in the garden. I'd been under the weather for days and I had also rowed with my wife (which really floored me). Anyway, it struck right then. I thought I'd been shot in the back.

Shingles....who needs it!

JaX
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: sumner7 on February 19, 2004, 12:45:44 PM
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mikeymike wrote:
Wonderful.

Not happy :-(

(Shingles is the adult new and improved edition of chicken pox)


There's a nightclub called Shingles on Merseybeat. Funnily enough, there's also a club called the Asthma. :lol:
Title: Re: Shingles.
Post by: bloodline on February 19, 2004, 01:02:17 PM
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JaXanim wrote:
How to avoid shingles?

Don't get chickenpox as a kid.

If you do, try to avoid stress in adulthood.

Shingles waits around for years, waiting 'til you're a little down, before it strikes. It got me as I was digging in the garden. I'd been under the weather for days and I had also rowed with my wife (which really floored me). Anyway, it struck right then. I thought I'd been shot in the back.

Shingles....who needs it!

JaX


I had the pox :-o (Chicken pox that is ;-) ) when I was a kid, so It's always at the back of my mind that I could be fataly struck down with Shingles and second!