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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Amiga Emulation => Topic started by: TheMagicM on March 20, 2014, 02:18:53 PM
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I never really paid attention to either of those two until just recently. I've been wanting an A1200HD for a while but have had a difficult time finding one in the USA. Then I get to thinking, what if it goes bad and I cant get it fixed etc etc.
What alternatives are there? Minimig looks like its not being sold anymore. MCC? Is it as good as the Minimig or are they equal? Compatibility with games, are they on par with each other? What else is out there like these two?
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FPGA Arcade is coming along, real soon now. http://www.fpgaarcade.com/punbb/
There's also the MiST board.
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I'm in the same boat. The other issue I have found in the US is that the 1200's are NTSC. Like Hattig the FPGA looks nice and it's right around the corner. Check out this video on youtube it looks awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4_yh3Q288
This is with the daughter board card running at some incredible speed all very good. I have been holding off and waiting also.
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Keep AWAY, really AWAY from the MCC-216 and the people behind it.
After 3 years, it still uses ILLEGAL Minimig core code (they stole the code from an early version, then didn't open it back) wich reduces compatibility to 30% of the games.
Then you have the only logical options, wich are:
-Minimig V1.1 board: I don't know if it's on sale anymore, but it's great. Compatibility using the latest core (FPGA hardware implementation) is ~100% with OCS/ECS software. There's no known failing game or demo, but you're welcome to prove otherwise.
-FPGA Arcade: The future. As it will use the current open Minimig core code wich added AGA and fixes by MikeJ and others, this is the best option imho. It's not easy to get now, but as production goes up, it will be the de facto choice for FPGA Amigas.
-The MisT board and the Altera DE1: they share the Minimig core with fixes by Chaos and others. Compatibility is also ~100% nowadays with ECS/OCS even if they use an FPGA-implemented 68k CPU, as the FPGA Arcade does.
The DE1 has no joystick ports, but it's relatively easy to add them.
I'd go for the MisT because it's an Atari800 and an Atari ST too :)
Whatever you do, avoid the MCC-216, or you'll be in great rage with the scammers behind it.
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and don't forget the Chameleon64 as an option. There are several cores available for that, but I tend to use just the C64 core and the Amiga.
Which reminds me that I really need to update my cores! :)
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Keep AWAY, really AWAY from the MCC-216 and the people behind it.
After 3 years, it still uses ILLEGAL Minimig core code (they stole the code from an early version, then didn't open it back) wich reduces compatibility to 30% of the games.
Then you have the only logical options, wich are:
-Minimig V1.1 board: I don't know if it's on sale anymore, but it's great. Compatibility using the latest core (FPGA hardware implementation) is ~100% with OCS/ECS software. There's no known failing game or demo, but you're welcome to prove otherwise.
-FPGA Arcade: The future. As it will use the current open Minimig core code wich added AGA and fixes by MikeJ and others, this is the best option imho. It's not easy to get now, but as production goes up, it will be the de facto choice for FPGA Amigas.
-The MisT board and the Altera DE1: they share the Minimig core with fixes by Chaos and others. Compatibility is also ~100% nowadays with ECS/OCS even if they use an FPGA-implemented 68k CPU, as the FPGA Arcade does.
The DE1 has no joystick ports, but it's relatively easy to add them.
I'd go for the MisT because it's an Atari800 and an Atari ST too :)
Whatever you do, avoid the MCC-216, or you'll be in great rage with the scammers behind it.
Thanks for the info on the MCC-216 I hadn't even heard of this unit.
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Minimig is listed on AmigaKit's website, "stock expected T.B.A." Might try dropping them a line and see if they expect any?
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@gaula92:
Googling..I came up with the same conclusion.
As far as Minimig and FPGA Arcade..I just want something that is near 100% compatibility that lets me play AGA games, has GFX card capabilities.
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@gaula92:
Googling..I came up with the same conclusion.
As far as Minimig and FPGA Arcade..I just want something that is near 100% compatibility that lets me play AGA games, has GFX card capabilities.
If you want RTG then the FPGA Arcade is the way to go. The new core is supposed to have RTG modes. I can't vouch for it yet as I'm still using an old core in mine.
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I got the MCC-216, and Amiga compatibility is not that great. The most annoying problem I found is that the Workbench does not work, it will freeze when accessing disk from desktop.
The compatibility with C64 and Atari 2600 is a hit and miss, you wont know if it works until you try, and also there is some weird bug in the keyboard code in C64 mode that prevents you from typing * and types a different character.
The Spectrum core seems to work fine, but most games don't support joysticks, so you need to play using the keyboard and I'm not a fan of that.
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At this May's SCCAN meeting, check out the two MCC-216's when member Matt B. and I bring in our respective machines. At the July 26-27 Commodore Vegas Expo v10, the MCC-216 will be there again for all attendees to use.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
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http://harbaum.org/till/mist/index.shtml
The Mist is the way to go :-)