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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: bjjones37 on March 14, 2014, 05:53:21 PM

Title: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: bjjones37 on March 14, 2014, 05:53:21 PM
I have been reading that a number of LCD panels work fine at the 15khz modes of the Amiga even though the specs do not confirm this.  I picked an NEC LCD1970NX and it worked fine. I use them on my A4000 and A1200. I have read the the Dell U311H, SR2320L, ST2320L, ST2410, and U2410 also work well.  I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether the U2410F also is compatible?

Just a suggestion. It would be nice to make a sticky post of the known 15khz compatible LCD panels so the list could grow over time as users found more.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: Themamboman on March 15, 2014, 01:32:00 AM
What kind of connector/adapter did you use to connect that LCD?
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: Darth_X on March 15, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: bjjones37;760733
I have been reading that a number of LCD panels work fine at the 15khz modes of the Amiga even though the specs do not confirm this.  I picked an NEC LCD1970NX and it worked fine. I use them on my A4000 and A1200. I have read the the Dell U311H, SR2320L, ST2320L, ST2410, and U2410 also work well.  I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether the U2410F also is compatible?

Just a suggestion. It would be nice to make a sticky post of the known 15khz compatible LCD panels so the list could grow over time as users found more.


I agree 100% with you!
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: danbeaver on March 15, 2014, 09:35:48 PM
The Dell ST series makes the Amiga's 15Khz output look beautiful; it goes up to 1920 X 1080 and had DVI input for the Indivision & Radeon folks.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: danwood on March 16, 2014, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: bjjones37;760733
I have been reading that a number of LCD panels work fine at the 15khz modes of the Amiga even though the specs do not confirm this.  I picked an NEC LCD1970NX and it worked fine. I use them on my A4000 and A1200. I have read the the Dell U311H, SR2320L, ST2320L, ST2410, and U2410 also work well.  I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether the U2410F also is compatible?

Just a suggestion. It would be nice to make a sticky post of the known 15khz compatible LCD panels so the list could grow over time as users found more.


There's probably too many to make a list, you just need to look for LCD TVs not monitors.  Any TV should work with the Amiga via SCART/SVideo.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: bjjones37 on March 16, 2014, 05:03:23 PM
On the Amiga 4000 I have to use the silver Commodore adapter with the built in circuitry (for delay), but on the Amiga 1200 I use a regular straight through adapter that I got from Amigakit.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: bjjones37 on March 16, 2014, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: Themamboman;760769
What kind of connector/adapter did you use to connect that LCD?


On the Amiga 4000 I have to use the silver Commodore adapter with the built in circuitry (for delay), but on the Amiga 1200 I use a regular straight through adapter that I got from Amigakit.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: bjjones37 on March 16, 2014, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: danwood;760852
There's probably too many to make a list, you just need to look for LCD TVs not monitors.  Any TV should work with the Amiga via SCART/SVideo.


I prefer using actual monitors to TVs.  I have never used SCART but read somewhere the the display quality is not quite as good a regular connection.  Do the American LCD TVs have SCART connections?  I was under the impression that was a European standard. I could get an adapter box to use it, but that seems like using the Ambery AV-1.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: danwood on March 16, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
Quote from: bjjones37;760868
I prefer using actual monitors to TVs.  I have never used SCART but read somewhere the the display quality is not quite as good a regular connection.  Do the American LCD TVs have SCART connections?  I was under the impression that was a European standard. I could get an adapter box to use it, but that seems like using the Ambery AV-1.


I was under the impression that RGB to SCART was one of the best quality methods from the Amiga.  Of course if you want the best output, a CRT multisync will be the best, or an Indivision AGA to a SVGA CRT looks superb.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: gertsy on March 16, 2014, 09:37:19 PM
Quote from: danwood;760869
I was under the impression that RGB to SCART was one of the best quality methods from the Amiga.  Of course if you want the best output, a CRT multisync will be the best, or an Indivision AGA to a SVGA CRT looks superb.


Amiga RGB to SCART RGB is.  People often confuse Component out (as opposed to composite) with  RGB.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: freqmax on March 17, 2014, 02:00:27 AM
Quote from: bjjones37;760868
I have never used SCART but read somewhere the the display quality is not quite as good a regular connection.


What is a regular connection? Is that better than RGB signals that SCART use?
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: NovaCoder on March 17, 2014, 02:20:00 AM
My new Samsung isn't Amiga 15kHz compatible but it looks really nice ;)

[youtube]9tvYmamSH1k[/youtube]


My old BenQ was 15Khz compatible...

[youtube]9THF92rvOhQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: orange on March 17, 2014, 02:46:47 AM
Quote from: freqmax;760898
What is a regular connection? Is that better than RGB signals that SCART use?


well scart can be used for composite (CVBS) or s-video, too. thats probably why some think its inferior.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on March 17, 2014, 03:29:49 AM
Quote from: bjjones37;760868
Do the American LCD TVs have SCART connections?


No.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: Toastrman on March 17, 2014, 08:54:44 AM
Quote from: bjjones37;760733
I have been reading that a number of LCD panels work fine at the 15khz modes of the Amiga even though the specs do not confirm this.  I picked an NEC LCD1970NX and it worked fine. I use them on my A4000 and A1200. I have read the the Dell U311H, SR2320L, ST2320L, ST2410, and U2410 also work well.  I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether the U2410F also is compatible?

Just a suggestion. It would be nice to make a sticky post of the known 15khz compatible LCD panels so the list could grow over time as users found more.
I just bought a Dell 2001fp for $25 in ebay. It has built in circiuts for VGA, S-video, Composite RCA,  DVI, old style HDMI (the big one), and 2 USB ports on the side. This 21 inch monitor is hooked up to my A1200 RCA out, but I pllan to install the new graphx board from AmigaKit. With an Ambery scan converter you can create PIP on any computer by jacking in a feed from cable TV. Run a splitter off your line to see TV on your VGA monitor. Also does the audio to my KLH speakers.
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: danbeaver on March 17, 2014, 04:03:20 PM
Does your monitor do 15khz?
Title: Re: Amiga Compatible LCDs
Post by: freqmax on March 18, 2014, 01:55:20 AM
just a note..

There is NO SUCH THING as "khz", there is only "kHz". Physics 101.

(btw, PAL or NTSC compatibility may also be good to know)