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Title: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 12:47:49 AM
Hi all I have just purchased a Realtek 8139 Network card and I have installed everything from mmcd, and installed FastEthernet.device into Devs but no matter how much I try I can't seem to get the thing to work :(
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: don27dog on March 09, 2014, 12:55:59 AM
You have to install video card first.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 01:07:59 AM
Quote from: don27dog;760389
You have to install video card first.


I have already installed the video card which is a radeon 9250 128mb?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 01:43:38 AM
Does the video card need  to be a voodoo in order for the network card to work ?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: Rob on March 09, 2014, 03:08:11 AM
Quote from: carvedeye;760398
Does the video card need  to be a voodoo in order for the network card to work ?


No but you may need to configure the Radeonmem file so that there's memory available for PCI-PCI DMA.

Also use the pciinfo comand in C: to check that the card is showing up.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: fishy_fiz on March 09, 2014, 07:51:29 AM
Have you tried openpci.lib and it's drivers? Also there's a/b/c/d versions of rtl8139, do mediator drivers support all of them? (never had a mediator myself)
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: smf on March 09, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
What  kind of error do you get then?

How does the output from pciinfo looks like?

Some users have reported that they had to put the voodoo/nic in a particular order but i have never experienced that, i have my GFX in the lowest slot and then the nic.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: danbeaver on March 09, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
Would you mind telling us a bit more information?

The Radeon needs to be working and the MedConfig run to set up the ENV settings; PCIinfo will tell you that the cards are recognized.  What TCP/IP stack are you using and how did you test?  Pinging the router is the first test for basic function, is that how you tested?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: Rob;760401
No but you may need to configure the Radeonmem file so that there's memory available for PCI-PCI DMA.

Also use the pciinfo comand in C: to check that the card is showing up.


The Radeon card is 128mb and I'm only using 31mb.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;760423
Would you mind telling us a bit more information?

The Radeon needs to be working and the MedConfig run to set up the ENV settings; PCIinfo will tell you that the cards are recognized.  What TCP/IP stack are you using and how did you test?  Pinging the router is the first test for basic function, is that how you tested?


The Radeon card is working fine, and I have ran the medconfig as well
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 04:56:27 PM
Well I have ran PCIinfo and the network card is not recognised :(
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;760429
Well I have ran PCIinfo and the network card is not recognised :(


Any ideas ?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: mechy on March 09, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;760441
Any ideas ?

As someone said above, there are quite a few revisions of that card and not all work in the mediator. i have had problems with some revisions myself.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 08:49:24 PM
Quote from: mechy;760449
As someone said above, there are quite a few revisions of that card and not all work in the mediator. i have had problems with some revisions myself.


How do I know what revision my card is then?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: mechy on March 09, 2014, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;760450
How do I know what revision my card is then?
Look on the realtek chip on the card. more than likely the number will end in a,b,c,d. It may also be noted on the pcb somewhere.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: mechy;760451
Look on the realtek chip on the card. more than likely the number will end in a,b,c,d. It may also be noted on the pcb somewhere.


It ends in D, according to the elbox website a/b/c/d cards are compatible? I'm guessing it also depends on the vendor?

 http://www.elbox.com/mediator_driver_guide.html
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 09:12:59 PM
Quote from: smf;760422
What  kind of error do you get then?

How does the output from pciinfo looks like?

Some users have reported that they had to put the voodoo/nic in a particular order but i have never experienced that, i have my GFX in the lowest slot and then the nic.


The Error I get is "OpenDevice: Unknown error" .

The only card that shows up in pciinfo is the Radeon ?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 09:24:46 PM
Well I have given up and have decided to buy the network card from amigakit as it also comes with easynet as well
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: mechy on March 09, 2014, 10:21:14 PM
Even the cards that did not work for me showed in pci info. Not sure what the trouble is, but if you have the cards in the recommended order and the card is known good,it should see something in pciinfo. Unfortunately even though the mediator list says its compatible, you're card could be a china knockoff, the firmware could have still been different than the "D" they tested,etc etc.  i have gotten some dlink cards off ebay for cheap that work fine. you always take a chance however.  you are using fastethernet.device right?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 09, 2014, 10:31:52 PM
Yeah I'm using fastethernet.device
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: PanterHZ on March 10, 2014, 01:18:51 AM
I remember having the same problem when I tried to use a network card with my Mediator SX, but I found some instructions on the net which told me to insert the network card in the first slot, and the Voodoo in the last. I did this and got things working.

Currently, this is how my Mediator is set up:
Slot 1: Network card
Slot 2: Soundblaster
Slot 3: TV card
Slot 4: Voodoo
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: Rob on March 10, 2014, 01:22:59 AM
Quote from: carvedeye;760454
The Error I get is "OpenDevice: Unknown error" .

The only card that shows up in pciinfo is the Radeon ?


Pciinfo reads the PCI device IDs from the cards installed and checks it against the vendors list and reports to you what cards are installed.  If it's not reporting back the card details then it suggests the card may be defective.  Try the card in another system to see if it works or is recognised.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: matthey on March 10, 2014, 03:37:35 AM
I had a bad fast ethernet card from Elbox. I bought another for $5 off e-bay and it works fine. Make sure you are using the newest drivers. The MM CD I received had old drivers. I recall that the old fastethernet.device on the CD didn't work. The ones off the Elbox website worked though. This was several years ago though so maybe things have changed.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 17, 2014, 11:16:55 PM
Ok so my Ethernet card arrived from amigakit and I have it installed, it is recognised by PCIInfo and I have installed Easynet (it came with the card) but I am unable to connect to the internet, I am using the FastEthernet.device driver etc.. but I am still not able to get online. I have attached some photo's with my current settings.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 18, 2014, 08:58:08 AM
any one?
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: carvedeye on March 18, 2014, 09:52:54 AM
Ok so I have completely given up on easynet and decided to install Genesis instead and is working fine now, I was hoping for it to be quicker than what it is but atleast it's up and running.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: danbeaver on March 18, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
I had problems with the original Easynet (AmiTCP 3.2b) switched to Miami and then to Roadshow (very easy setup-- 2 steps and reboot).  Glad you got it working (although I believe Genesis is AmiTCP too).
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: matthey on March 18, 2014, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;760948
Ok so I have completely given up on easynet and decided to install Genesis instead and is working fine now, I was hoping for it to be quicker than what it is but atleast it's up and running.


Genesis is known for being one of the fastest Amiga stacks. It can be tweaked for speed (bigger packet size?) also. There is also the packet fix which I use with Genesis:

http://aminet.net/comm/tcp/AmiTCP_PacketFix.lha

You may already have it patched if using the unofficial BoingBags.

I'm surprised the new easynet doesn't work with the same settings. The biggest difference is a different GUI.
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: Lurch on March 18, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
If Genesis works then Easynet should be the same. However I'm a huge advocate of Roadshow, fast and easy to install.

Downside is you have to buy it, but I see it as supporting the Amiga scene :-)
Title: Re: Can't install Network card in Mediator?
Post by: icbrkr on May 12, 2016, 10:00:28 PM
Necrobumping a thread.

I had a problem too with the 8139, and then I found this old crusty guide:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050427070424/http://ext.neostrada.pl/network/network6.shtml.htm

For me, the issue was the autodetect was turned on.  When I turned it off, everything started working.