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Title: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on February 12, 2004, 07:00:14 PM

Yeah i downloaded mental and im wondering how do you start it?
I click on the mental rtg and then i click execute but then i get,example: mental_rtg.exe
screent bit depth 16/24/32....
Thanks..
Gav

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: lempkee on February 12, 2004, 07:21:10 PM

whats so hard here then?

just type 16 if u want it in 16 bit , if u want it in 24 bit type 24  and so on..

mental_rtg.exe 16

mental_rtg.exe 32

bla bla..

hope this help..

ps: make SURE you have the CORRECT trueaga lib , its inside the package and just copy this lib to PROG dir.

cheers

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on February 12, 2004, 07:26:38 PM

Oh now i feel stupid lol well its still all new w to me :P
Thanks again..
Gav

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on February 12, 2004, 08:22:33 PM

Now i get,could not open trueaga.library v5....
I used the lib u get wit the package...

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: lempkee on February 12, 2004, 08:28:09 PM

did u read what i wrote?

there is 3 libs in the archive
use the correct one , if u are in doubt...tell me what your system IS!.

make sure that you dont have an OLD trueagalib in libs:  ..


cheers

ps:trueaga lib for mental should be in progdir:

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: lempkee on February 12, 2004, 08:30:24 PM

and ofcourse, u need to rename the lib so its appropriate named! for your system..

ie if u have mediator with voodoo then it should be trueaga.library_cgx -> trueaga.library  .

this is because of some errors in p96, so you cant use native p96 one...

this elbox bug has been fixed some time ago but we didnt know this so we just made special cgx exe for that..

cheers

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Karlos on February 12, 2004, 10:46:27 PM

I find stepping barefoot onto an upturned 3 pin mains plug helps...

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: edderkop on February 12, 2004, 10:48:12 PM

well i thinks i am born that way  :-P

Title: Re: How do you run like mental?
Post by: iamaboringperson on February 12, 2004, 10:52:54 PM

What is 'mental' ?

Title: Re: How do you run like mental?
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 12, 2004, 10:53:43 PM

Loco en el coco!

Title: Re: How do you run like mental?
Post by: lempkee on February 12, 2004, 11:09:57 PM

to thoose who still doesnt know what MENTAL is , click on the button that says WWW on my info line.

both xvid and exe is on this site.

Title: Re: How do you run like mental?
Post by: Gav on February 13, 2004, 02:39:52 AM

Yes i read what you wrote and i still get the same msg???i give up..

Title: Re: How do you run like mental?
Post by: Argo on February 13, 2004, 03:33:34 AM

Looks to to be a computer demo.

Title: Re: How do you run like mental?
Post by: Gav on February 13, 2004, 06:40:58 AM

Ok maybe im just too tired to work on it now but let t me get this s right..I have a voodoo,mediator and 060 with 128mb...So i rename the cgfx lib?Or the p96 one?
Thanks...

Title: Re: How do you run like mental?
Post by: lempkee on February 13, 2004, 07:00:37 AM

is this the day when everyone needs to pull my leg?


....gav:  anyway USE CGX version, anyway read what i wrote earlier or just read the docs inside the archive..., now i am getting tired :D

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on March 05, 2004, 03:21:11 AM

Ok i have been away from amiga for a few weeks so i want this to work for me as the screen shots look cool...
Ok i renamed trueaga p96 to trueaga.library_cgx but i still cant the cant open true aga....
Sorry fr being a pain here...
Thanks again..
Gav

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: pVC on March 05, 2004, 09:42:46 AM

Why wouldn't you rename it to trueaga.library as suggested? In any case the program tries to open library called trueaga.library. Other names are just different options and you should rename the needed version to trueaga.library. And as said, you should use the cgx version with Mediator/Voodoo. Let me spell it right: rename FROM trueaga.library_cgx TO trueaga.library

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on March 05, 2004, 03:43:39 PM

Yeah i must of looked at it wrong but even so now it starts to load and then it says screen not opend,why?
Thanks

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on March 05, 2004, 04:14:23 PM

@Gav

Better watch some DCS demos instead. They always work :)

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on March 05, 2004, 04:47:54 PM

Cool,what is dcs? lol

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on March 05, 2004, 05:17:53 PM

2cb (http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=22)
information none (http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=23)
klone (http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=24)
nebula (http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=129)
non-stop (http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=262)
phenomenon (http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=259)

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on March 05, 2004, 07:31:55 PM

Ahh i wownt be able to run that one as i have a voodoo  card,so anyone know why mental wont work?
Thanks.....so anyone know?

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: notelpats on March 08, 2004, 02:44:30 AM

When I run mental, I usually get good and drunk, wear funny cloths and scream that my pants are on fire. Could that be why i have the love me jacket still on?  :insane:

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on March 08, 2004, 07:35:40 PM

Anyone there?

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: lempkee on March 08, 2004, 07:52:59 PM

mental by push entertainment (my team) WORKS fine on VOODOO CARDS.

just do as i told u allready.

mental_rtg.exe 16
mental_rtg.exe 24
mental_rtg.exe 32

thats the 3 ways..

for the trueaga library , just copy the cgx lib to progdir
8mental DIR)  + to libs:   (remember to rename it)

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: Gav on March 08, 2004, 07:58:05 PM

On one of other posts i wrote i did that and now it says this as it starts to load "screen not opend",why?
Ahh hold up,i see ya wrote put in libs also :P i missed that..Dont be mad at me for bugging ya about it :P im still learning here...
I`ll try it later thanks again for ya help..
Gav

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: lempkee on March 08, 2004, 08:02:02 PM

ok just to have said it..

its well documented if uy read the damn readme :-)

anyway open a shell window and type mental_rtg.exe 16  and hit enter , then the demo runs..  
if it doesnt then you have either:

1. no trueaga lib (Correct one) (remeber to reboot or avail flush your memory)

2. not available screenmode  (you need to make a 320x256x16,24,32 mode in p96mode)

anyway all of this is pretty basic {bleep} and none have ever complained before, most likely you havent renamed the correct lib and put it in progdir + libs: (mediator users should use the CGX library) , if youre 100% certain of that then check if u remebered to make the modes! with p96mode in sys:prefs .

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: patrik on March 08, 2004, 09:31:28 PM

@lempkee:

I have an A4000 with a CyberVision64 graphics card. When using CyberGraphX 4 the all push demos using trueaga.library behaves a bit wierd. Wierd in the sense that it splits the output and creates a screen which can be described as this:

listing from the upper part to the lower part of the screen:
-a bit of black
-a flickering graphical output of the demo, half as high as it should be
-a bit of black
-a flickering graphical output of the demo, half as high as it should be
-a bit of black

So effectively I get two outputs from the demo on the same screen, but some interesting aspects are that they dont look totaly identical pixel by pixel and one of them looks like it is a frame or so after the other one in time.

I have tried all different depths and all different versions of trueaga.library (p96, cgx, cgx&p96) and they all behave identical. Though if I use Picasso96 as rtg software instead of CyberGraphX the demos output their graphics correctly.


/Patrik

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: JaXanim on March 08, 2004, 11:05:55 PM

Just to put this into perspective, I downloaded Mental, organised all the files as described in the text, selected one or other screenmode version, and they all work fine. I have a PicassoIV, but I think I actually prefer the 68K version over RTG. Looks crisper and on my '060/64MHz seems to sync better with the soundtrack. But brilliant in any mode!

Mental...this is what Amiga demos are all about. Lovely!
I wish I could do this stuff too! The ocean anim is superb.
I have tried to create this stuff in LightWave and can get nowhere near this result. How's it done, dammit!

Cheers,

JaX

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: lempkee on March 11, 2004, 03:03:42 PM

patrik: sounds like you have a issue with interlace/doublescan or simmilar ...

maybe u forgot to use correct lib?

i dont know really as i only use p96 and all our testers on cgx never reported any problems like u mention...

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: lempkee on March 11, 2004, 03:08:22 PM

jaxanim: erm who said the ocean thing was an anim?

check dolphins dream also , the 64kb intro and maybe you will call that an anim too :-)

also 68k is better than rtg?  u meant aga i guess , anyway we support rtg but that doesnt mean its the best choice!, its so that people with ECS can see our products!.

i for one always prefer AGA over rtg when it comes to demos.

also both rtg and aga performs identical on my setup (mediator and 060)  .

anyway since u mentioned lightwave, yes we use lightwave for the 3d, so all seen in mental is possible to rfecreate if you would want that, and yes LW5.0/1 .

cheers

Title: Re: How do you run mental?
Post by: JaXanim on March 11, 2004, 03:22:07 PM

@lempkee

I was speaking figuratively. I like the 'ocean animation'. Couldn't guess the format, but great LightWave stuff!

JaX