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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: carvedeye on February 19, 2014, 11:44:43 PM
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Hi I started another thread but feel I should have started it with the title above, I would like to know how to install AFA onto my setup (see my siggy for specs) and have a more modern look for my workbench, if anyone could give me a step by step I will be very grateful.
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Any one?
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AfAOS 4.7 has an included installer, but I have never gotten it to work right.
The way I got things to work was to try running the installer, which copies some files over (but not all), then go to the guide and look in the section called Manual install, and follow those instructions. I'd also go through and make sure that the files in the subfolders are copied to the corresponding folders on the HDD. After a restart, then you should be able to run the two prefs programs (one is for the window frames, the other is to install TTF fonts for use by the Fonts prefs program).
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AFA is easy to install if you use blizkick.
I install the morelibspace_module with blizkick and (it's one of the first lines in my startup-sequence) and after the c:AddDatatypes line i have "C:AFA_OS_Loader"
I can't remember that i have done anything else to install it, it's quite a long time since i installed it but i probably just used the installer, modified my startup-sequence as above and patched dopus magellan.
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AFA is easy to install if you use blizkick.
I install the morelibspace_module with blizkick and (it's one of the first lines in my startup-sequence) and after the c:AddDatatypes line i have "C:AFA_OS_Loader"
I can't remember that i have done anything else to install it, it's quite a long time since i installed it but i probably just used the installer, modified my startup-sequence as above and patched dopus magellan.
Do I need to install dopus magdalen for it to work? Do I need to install any other software?
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AfAOS 4.7 has an included installer, but I have never gotten it to work right.
The way I got things to work was to try running the installer, which copies some files over (but not all), then go to the guide and look in the section called Manual install, and follow those instructions. I'd also go through and make sure that the files in the subfolders are copied to the corresponding folders on the HDD. After a restart, then you should be able to run the two prefs programs (one is for the window frames, the other is to install TTF fonts for use by the Fonts prefs program).
I have ran the installer but I will also try the manual way as well.
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are there any other skins I can use that are easy to install that will give me a more modern look on my amiga?
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There may be more skins on amiga-look.org.
I like the one that makes it look like Amiga OS4.x (blue version).
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There may be more skins on amiga-look.org.
I like the one that makes it look like Amiga OS4.x (blue version).
Have you got a link for it? and how do I install it?
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Every skin that was painted for Afa, except for one, comes with it. Have you tried running the Afa prefs program and selecting a skin? You won't see any changes until you start configuring it.
http://www.five-star.com/kens_icons/screenshots/themes_all.png
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Every skin that was painted for Afa, except for one, comes with it. Have you tried running the Afa prefs program and selecting a skin? You won't see any changes until you start configuring it.
http://www.five-star.com/kens_icons/screenshots/themes_all.png
I tried to run afa prefs but an error came up, I have done fresh install of amigaos and will try the installer again and let you know,
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@ klesterjr
Do I need to install any other software prior to installing afa?
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So I have done a fresh install of OS 3.9 and configured my voodoo card etc... Is it just running the installer and rebooting and going into afa prefs and configuring it or do I need to add something to the start-up sequence?
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Ok so I have installed afaOS and rebooted my system tried to open afa prefs but it says
"No AFA OS running" ? I also noticed that at the end of the installer that I need to add something to the start-up sequence as well?
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There have to be 3 entries in s-s:
c:morelibspace reboot ; as first line if not done othwise
a bit later, after assigns to env: etc.
c:Assign AfA_OS: Sys:Afa_os_libs ; check your pathes
and finally before calling Iprefs
c:AfA_os_loader
thats it, you're done.
Have fun
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Don't know what you expect to be a more modern interface.
Attached a screenshot of AfA running with "Abyss" as skin.
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Here is my start-up sequence but I think I went wrong somewhere as my system on reboot gives me errors?
I have also attached a pic with the errors on it :(
if someone could edit the sequence at there end and paste it back here that will be great :)
If Exists C:IDEFix
C:IDEFix
EndIf
C:SetPatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
C:morelibspace reboot ;
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
Assign AfA_: Sys:Afa_os_libs ;
BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)
C:LoadMonDrvs
;IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
; IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
; DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
; EndIF
; C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
; Execute T:M
; C:Delete >NIL: T:M
;EndIF
SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart
C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:Afa_os_loader
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip
Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities
SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:
IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF
Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE
C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:
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Any one? I really want it get this up and running :(
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Before starting AfA_OS make sure that your screenmode is set to truecolor (24bit). Afa_os_iconlib and skinning won't work without. It is likely that your system crashes badly if you try though.
Move "c:morelibspace REBOOT" to top of file, just to be sure nothing else interferes here.
I've checked the wrong assignment you set to Afa_. Surprisingly this doesn't stop AfA.
There must be a typo elsewhere, if a "wrong argument" pops up.
I don't know what causes Iprefs to crash.
For error checking please set a ";" (no quotation marks) infront of every line from AfA setup.
e.g.:
;c:morelibspace
;Assign Afa_ .....
;c:Afa_os_loader
this marks the following as a comment so this command won't be executed
Reboot and check if WB starts correctly.
What's your Kickstart version? 3.1 is required.
Cybergrfx or P96 running fine?
Check files and folders. Are all AfA files copied properly?
And a personal note:
If you copy&paste scripts, batch files or code snippets then use "#" from toolbar to wrap it for better readability.
And finally, this a forum. It's not a chat, instant messenger, hotline or your personal help desk. If you impaciently insist on help or answers you'll get quite the opposite of that. Nobody will help.
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Before starting AfA_OS make sure that your screenmode is set to truecolor (24bit). Afa_os_iconlib and skinning won't work without. It is likely that your system crashes badly if you try though.
Move "c:morelibspace REBOOT" to top of file, just to be sure nothing else interferes here.
I've checked the wrong assignment you set to Afa_. Surprisingly this doesn't stop AfA.
There must be a typo elsewhere, if a "wrong argument" pops up.
I don't know what causes Iprefs to crash.
For error checking please set a ";" (no quotation marks) infront of every line from AfA setup.
e.g.:
;c:morelibspace
;Assign Afa_ .....
;c:Afa_os_loader
this marks the following as a comment so this command won't be executed
Reboot and check if WB starts correctly.
What's your Kickstart version? 3.1 is required.
Cybergrfx or P96 running fine?
Check files and folders. Are all AfA files copied properly?
And a personal note:
If you copy&paste scripts, batch files or code snippets then use "#" from toolbar to wrap it for better readability.
And finally, this a forum. It's not a chat, instant messenger, hotline or your personal help desk. If you impaciently insist on help or answers you'll get quite the opposite of that. Nobody will help.
I manage to take out the lines for afa and it is now booting fine, I will re-type the lines into the corresponding parts of the sequence and let you know how I get on.
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Well I think I have come to realise that I don't have a clue what I am doing so I'm just going to give up, I really appreciate all the help but think I will just stick with what I have.
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Sorry, if it's me driving you out, sometimes i tend to sound "rude".
No, you can't give up that easy :quickdraw:
I'm struggling with Amithlon for about 4 years now. I NEED HELP. :uzi:
What should we do with our discontinued machines, if not trying to make the impossible possible?
And don't take me too serious. In most cases i'm not :biglaugh:
Cheers :drink:
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Sorry, if it's me driving you out, sometimes i tend to sound "rude".
No, you can't give up that easy :quickdraw:
I'm struggling with Amithlon for about 4 years now. I NEED HELP. :uzi:
What should we do with our discontinued machines, if not trying to make the impossible possible?
And don't take me too serious. In most cases i'm not :biglaugh:
Cheers :drink:
Thanks for being patient with me, i entered the required lines that you gave me and put them In there right places (I think) and I have just the one error now which is "wrong argument" on an amiga dos screen so at least we are getting somewhere, going off the start-up sequence I have pasted where exactly should I bring putting the lines?
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Hi carvedeye you on the right path dont give up! Sorry for my lack of reply it was a very long time ago I had afa os working.
As I try to remember I do recall something about different versions working. I will try to look on compact flash with it installed on this week as i know it still works on that :)
Where did you get the files you are installing?
As I recall I used the ones from the afa site. I do remember having to do something weird to get it work. Its just I cannot remember what that wired thing was lol.
looking at your startup
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
Assign AfA_: Sys:Afa_os_libs ;
Should be
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
c:Assign AfA_OS: Sys:Afa_os_libs ;
I think you missed out the OS on the assign and the location of AFA_OS in the commands folder C:
Oh I also remember that.
1) If it boots with those commands in the start up sequence its a good thing.
2) You can tell its working by loading up Afa prefs
3) Text under icons might not be visible as they are the default amiga text that is not trutype so cannot be displayed. They will display once you select true type fonts in prefs.
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Hi carvedeye you on the right path dont give up! Sorry for my lack of reply it was a very long time ago I had afa os working.
As I try to remember I do recall something about different versions working. I will try to look on compact flash with it installed on this week as i know it still works on that :)
Where did you get the files you are installing?
As I recall I used the ones from the afa site. I do remember having to do something weird to get it work. Its just I cannot remember what that wired thing was lol.
looking at your startup
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
Assign AfA_: Sys:Afa_os_libs ;
Should be
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
c:Assign AfA_OS: Sys:Afa_os_libs ;
I think you missed out the OS on the assign and the location of AFA_OS in the commands folder C:
Oh I also remember that.
1) If it boots with those commands in the start up sequence its a good thing.
2) You can tell its working by loading up Afa prefs
3) Text under icons might not be visible as they are the default amiga text that is not trutype so cannot be displayed. They will display once you select true type fonts in prefs.
I downloaded the files form the afa os website, I have also added OS to the sequence saved it and rebooted, then was given a grim reaper saying I had to press left mouse button then it came up again saying to press left mouse button then I was given an AmigaDOS screen saying wrong arguments then it booted into workbench I started afa prefs and I was able to load it but the section where for skins is greyed out so cant select any skins, but we are getting somewhere :)
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I will look at my startup sequence tomorrow. If needs be I will even send you the files. We will get it going ;) in the end bro
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I will look at my startup sequence tomorrow. If needs be I will even send you the files. We will get it going ;) in the end bro
thanks mate I appreciate it :)
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@ theformula
Did you manage to have a look at your start-up sequence :)
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Yup try this
If Exists C:IDEFix
C:IDEFix
EndIf
C:SetPatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
C:morelibspace reboot ;
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVSOSDrivers/~(#?.info)
C:LoadMonDrvs
;IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
; IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
; DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
; EndIF
; C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
; Execute T:M
; Celete >NIL: T:M
;EndIF
SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart
C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:AfA_OS_Loader
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip
Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities
SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:
IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF
Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE
C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:
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Basically its caps sensitive so
C:Afa_os_loader
becomes
C:AfA_OS_Loader
and remove
Assign AfA_: Sys:Afa_os_libs ;
as I did not have it in my startup and it worked fine.
*fingers crossed that should work*
Ps. I did have the AfA_OS and AfA_OS_Libs folder just in my system folder. AfA_OS_Loader and morelibspace in C: folder. All the prefs in the Prefs: folder
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@theformula
I deleted Assign AfA_: Sys:Afa_os_libs ; from the sequence rebooted and still had the AmigaDOS screen coming up saying "wrong arguments" so once that went and workbench started I had a dig around in the afa os folder and seen the documentation file and had a little read of it and it says that I needed to put C:morelibspace before the setpatch command and so idid that saved it and I no longer get the "wrong arguments" error and I was able to access the skins tab, when I selected the skin I want I saved and rebooted but as soon as I went to open up my drive to access prefs my miggy locks up and I have to do a reset :(
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no matter what I do my miggy now locks up?
Any ideas :(
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That's disappointing.
Same documentations mentioned to put
c:wait 1
before calling Iprefs, the delay is in seconds.
Did you try that?
2 seconds wouldn't hurt.
I've done a fresh and clean install. CyberGX this time.
Except for a little typo, everything else went without flaws or errors.
I remember once i'd encountered nasty crashes when workbench showed up, any click gave me stripes on screen and system locked.
But it's long since and i forgot the reason for this behaviour.
Well. some nitpicking:
Amiga OS has never been case sensitive.
Placing morelibspace behind setpatch should be tested before recommending.
Attach s-s or wrap them with tags. it's bad style to put these wall of text in a thread.
A ; at the end of a line should not cause any trouble but makes no sense without a comment.
I've asked for screenmode and Kickstart. Still no answer. Are any of those boing bags installed? Has OS 3.9 been updated?
Blizkick or any other rom mapper installed?
What RTG system is installed?
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There is no sign of any of those prefs programs for your M1230XA.
Where do you start those tools?
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.I've asked for screenmode and Kickstart. Still no answer. Are any of those boing bags installed? Has OS 3.9 been updated?
Blizkick or any other rom mapper installed?
What RTG system is installed?
I am using kickstart 3.1 and amigaos 3.9 + bb 1+2 (I wont install 3 + 4 because I am not very experienced at editing the s-s as you may have already guessed :) ), Software for the m1230xa is setxa, I don't have blizkick installed and I don't have any rom mapper installed either.
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It's very easy to import a s-s from other users, if they attach the s-s as a text file :biglaugh:
Your system specs looks quite average. So AfA_OS might fail on Voodoo/Mediator settings?
You mentioned grim reaper. How did you set up this? Afaik reaper is part of OS4.
Are you using CGX or P96?
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I may have got mixed up with saying grimm reaper, the error I was meaning was when the system boots I get an error saying press left mouse button, I thought AfA_OS was supposed to be minimum spec of an 020 or higher?
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It's very easy to import a s-s from other users, if they attach the s-s as a text file :biglaugh:
It would be great if someone will do this :)