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Title: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 03, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
I have just ordered myself a Mediator LT4 from Amigakit and I cant wait till it comes, I have got myself all the compatible cards for it already but want to know how hard/easy it is to get the Radeon 9200 gfx card setup so I can use it for my workbench display?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 03, 2014, 11:09:53 PM
also What is the best most affordable option for USB ?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: RobertB on February 04, 2014, 04:10:31 AM
Quote from: carvedeye;758398
I have just ordered myself a Mediator LT4 from Amigakit... but want to know how hard/easy it is to get the Radeon 9200 gfx card setup so I can use it for my workbench display?

Well, I have a Radeon 9250 PCI card working on my A1200 tower.  For the tower specifications, see

http://retro-link.com/smf/index.php?topic=251.0

But I haven't put USB in it yet,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 04, 2014, 05:38:30 AM
Did you see this one?

https://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=193

Of course it's out of stock, but maybe try shooting them an email to check on ETA?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: smf on February 04, 2014, 06:22:18 AM
If you can read instructions the installation of the radeon9200 should be easy :)
I say "should" because I have two mediators and in one of them it seems to be impossible to install the radeon card that i'm trying to use, the best i can get is to get it to display the testdisplay and then crash. On the other mediator the installation was easy as always.

If you want a cheap usb sollution it's pretty easy to find spider usb "clones". They are working pretty well but is somewhat limited because they won't function right after powerup because they need the mediator drivers to get initialized.
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 04, 2014, 01:33:38 PM
I had a look the spider but would prefer a cheaper alternative if it's possible?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: Rob on February 04, 2014, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;758421
I had a look the spider but would prefer a cheaper alternative if it's possible?


There were people re-flashing NEC USB cards to work with the Mediator a few years back.  Some throuh this site and some on Amibay.  May be worth asking at Amibay and EAB.  If you're good at soldering and have an EPROM programmer you may be able to do it yourself if someone can provide you with the required firmware.
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 04, 2014, 10:39:22 PM
Quote from: Rob;758426
There were people re-flashing NEC USB cards to work with the Mediator a few years back.  Some throuh this site and some on Amibay.  May be worth asking at Amibay and EAB.  If you're good at soldering and have an EPROM programmer you may be able to do it yourself if someone can provide you with the required firmware.


I will to see if there are any available on EAB and amibay, as for doing it myself I simply do not have the experience to soldier or have the EPROM programmer to do this :(
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 05, 2014, 12:13:16 PM
My Mediator came today, really looking forward to installing it but unfortunately I am at work until 10pm :( When I get in tonight I will install it and let you all know how I get on, hopefully it will install like a breeze with my radeon card inside of it :)
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 05, 2014, 11:48:44 PM
Well I have attached the mediator to my 1200 which is inside an EZ Z4 case, attached my accelerator and placed the radeon into the mediator and connected the power supply to the mediator and now it wont boot to workbench, I have then inserted the emergency disk along with OS 3.9 disc it will boot but my mouse does not work so cant do anything....please help me :(
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 05, 2014, 11:58:07 PM
Reverse your steps.  Try without the accelerator.  Test your power supply.  Will it boot and work correctly off any disk (such as an old game)?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 06, 2014, 01:13:29 AM
Ok managed to get the mediator running and have installed the drivers from the cd along with mediator multimedia installer, ran the medconfig etc.. chose radeon 9250 for the card and chose 32mb of ram it installed all the relevant drivers etc... but when I go into devs there is nothing there? Also when I reboot I get an error saying "Unable to open mixer.library" any ideas?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 06, 2014, 11:21:32 AM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 06, 2014, 06:00:27 PM
I remember this thread from a few weeks ago mentioned mixer:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=757409

Any help there?  Sorry I don't own a Mediator so can't help more.  Does AmigaKit provide any setup instructions with it?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: Firedawg on February 06, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;758526
Anyone?

I joined this group a year or so ago.  Plenty of Mediator users there that can help you.

Amiga Mediator Users Group (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Amiga-Mediator/info)

Mike
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 06, 2014, 10:48:48 PM
Ok I have done a full re-install of OS 3.9 and I have ran the installer from mmcd install all the relevant software and drivers along with all the correct library's but how do I configure it to show in Devs monitor drawer?

Do I need to install Picaso96 manually?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 07, 2014, 12:01:41 AM
Does it matter which pci slot I use ? I have taken a pic of the jumpers and the slot it is in, and I have also have a pic of the Radeon as well.
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: danbeaver on February 07, 2014, 12:12:34 AM
ELBOX says the slot does not matter, but you will find various opinions.

The instructions are confusing, but once you have run the Config program and rebooted, you need to run P96 using the Cybervision 64\3D card.  This will show up in the DEVS:Monitors directory; rename it to Radeon and do  "R-Amiga I" to get into the tooltypes and change the name here.  Save and reboot.  Then use P96 to attach and set up your screen sizes and color depths.
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 07, 2014, 12:25:45 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;758565
ELBOX says the slot does not matter, but you will find various opinions.

The instructions are confusing, but once you have run the Config program and rebooted, you need to run P96 using the Cybervision 64\3D card.  This will show up in the DEVS:Monitors directory; rename it to Radeon and do  "R-Amiga I" to get into the tooltypes and change the name here.  Save and reboot.  Then use P96 to attach and set up your screen sizes and color depths.


I have ran the med config program and rebooted but I don't know where to find P96?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 07, 2014, 12:37:30 AM
Ok I have installed picasso96 and chose Cybervision 64/3D, Changed the name to Radeon, rebooted but I don't know how to use P96 to attach and setup the screen size and colour depth?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: danbeaver on February 07, 2014, 03:04:09 AM
P96 is located in the Prefs: folder after the install; after opening it it will have a "dummy" board you can delete.  You will have 4 boxes on the top left; you will use the left-most ("New") box and drag it to one of three locations.  Dropping an item on the right most box (Skull+X-bones) deletes it.

1) Just below the 4 boxes on the left side you will drag the New box and drop it for the New Board Settings.

2) Right click the menus and it should say Attach Board To: and select under it "Board0: Radeon"  -- if it is not there either the Radeon.chip file is not in the sys:Libs/96/ directory, or in the monitor Information area you did not change CyberVision64/3D to Radeon.

3) Now with the board attached to a Settings in the First box, Drag the "New" box to the area just below the first one: "Resolutions;" here you type in the resolution desired (start with the default 640X480), and later drag and edit resolutions up to 1920X1080.

4) Now one needs to set the parameters for the video card: Drag you "New" box and drop it in the area on the right upper part.  The default settings may give you output on clicking "Test" in the lower right.  Here you will test and "Edit" the settings to get the output screen adjusted to your monitor.  The color depth "cycler" will let you select 256, 16K or 24M colors; the Pixel Clock will fine tune the timing, and in the edit mode the other boxes that deal with size of the screen will get filled in during a successful edit.   Unclick any "interlace" or "double scan" changes if you use my suggested settings.  Some color depths will not work if the Video card lacks enough memory.

As a help I have copied my settings:

P96 setup is tricky; the list screen modes and clock times are approximate, for a 60Hz monitor, and are monitor specific (not all monitors show all screen modes). The approximate size is listed for my Dell (http://www.dell.com/) ST2310L and my Radeon 9200 Video card.  

Picasso96 Settings -- For a 60 Hz Monitor

Resolution: 640 x 480
CLK: 29.82
808 520

Resolution: 800 x 600
CLK: 38.02
1032 640

Resolution: 1120 x 832
CLK: 80.44
1440 910


Resolution: 1152 X 900
CLK: 84.38
1522 931

Resolution: 1024 x 768
CLK: 84.38
1336 800

Resolution: 1280 x 1024
CLK: 108.90
1600 1126

Resolution: 1920 x 1080
CLK: 165.38
2208 1118          

See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_-DqWPgIiM
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 07, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;758573
See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_-DqWPgIiM


I have watched the video and when I have drag everything into its box and goto Attach settings to it still only says no board ?
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: carvedeye on February 07, 2014, 11:52:40 AM
I have ended up putting a voodoo inside instead and I now have it all working thanks to everyone who helped me I am very grateful.
Title: Re: Finally ordered a mediator LT4 :)
Post by: danbeaver on February 07, 2014, 11:59:08 AM
In that case, check the two items i listed in "2)" above; if they are correct, then check PCIinfo to make sure that the Mediator recognizes the card.  If it does, go into the Picasso96 directory and located the "Debug" program.  If it shows the card as present, then it should work.  If not check all of your steps again, reinsert the card after cleaning its contacts.