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Title: ODF Datatype?
Post by: slaapliedje on January 14, 2014, 07:49:39 AM
I've been searching here and there for it, but I can't seem to locate an Open Document Format Datatype.  This would be the format that OpenOffice/LibreOffice uses for it's documents.

Datatypes are one of the coolest things about the newer versions of AmigaOS, but I'm not sure what exactly would be involved with creating an ODF for it.  I haven't even been able to find someone asking the question.  I would love for any word processor that utilizes datatypes to be able to support opening and saving of ODF.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: ODF Datatype?
Post by: chris on January 28, 2014, 06:54:16 PM
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I've been searching here and there for it, but I can't seem to locate an Open Document Format Datatype.  This would be the format that OpenOffice/LibreOffice uses for it's documents.

The best I can do for you is this: http://internetpages.bravepages.com/docdatatypes/
I don't know whether the author is still active, but it certainly hasn't had an update in a long time (and there's no ODF support)

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Datatypes are one of the coolest things about the newer versions of AmigaOS, but I'm not sure what exactly would be involved with creating an ODF for it.  I haven't even been able to find someone asking the question.  I would love for any word processor that utilizes datatypes to be able to support opening and saving of ODF.

Most word processors don't support using datatypes to load/save text.
The datatypes on the above links are subclasses of text.datatype, so you'll lose all the formatting.
Subclasses of document.datatype are doable and would keep the formatting, but there's no way of doing anything other than viewing them in MultiView.

What I think you actually need is a WP which supports ODF.
Title: Re: ODF Datatype?
Post by: slaapliedje on January 28, 2014, 07:14:15 PM
Ah, that all makes sense.  It's a shame that more programs didn't fully utilize the datatypes.  But then I guess that brings up the question of, is there any word processor for the Amiga Classics that support ODF?  I tend to think ODF is the future, and it'd be fantastic if even our beloved Classic Amigas could be used for modern day writing / word processing.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: ODF Datatype?
Post by: Thorham on January 28, 2014, 08:26:31 PM
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I guess that brings up the question of, is there any word processor for the Amiga Classics that support ODF?

Probably not. The ODF format is just XML (from what I've read). Would be really easy to handle, but it's probably just not supported.

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it'd be fantastic if even our beloved Classic Amigas could be used for modern day writing / word processing.

You can. You can use your Amiga to write anything you want :p As far as program compatibility goes, try to find a format that's supported by Open Office and Amiga software. Of course, you probably did that already, right?
Title: Re: ODF Datatype?
Post by: slaapliedje on January 28, 2014, 09:05:37 PM
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You can. You can use your Amiga to write anything you want :p  As far as program compatibility goes, try to find a format that's  supported by Open Office and Amiga software. Of course, you probably did  that already, right?

Of course I can, I can even print it out since I have a JetDirect capable printer.  I need to look more into what word processors are available for the Amiga.  Was even considering learning C so I could port Abiword.  Of course it'd be easier if the Amiga had a port of GTK+ or a way to easily port GTK+ software to MUI, which I think would be the correct way to go.

Unfortunately I have too many other things I'm trying to work on right now.  But it'd be pretty awesome to have a new word processor that supports all the formats for the Amiga.  I know they are working on porting LibreOffice to Amiga 4.x, but it's a huge behomoth and would never be able to run on Amiga 3.x, unless you had oodles of RAM.

Thanks for all the input.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: ODF Datatype?
Post by: Matt_H on January 28, 2014, 11:01:54 PM
Someone was working on a GTK-MUI wrapper some years ago. I thought it was finished, but I've never seen anything come of it.

If you have a MorphOS machine, Scriba (http://aminet.net/package/text/edit/Scriba_1.9.9) seems to have some OpenDocument support.

The Amiga's best classic word processors - WordWorth7 and Final Writer 97 - are very capable. The only major downside to them is difficulties with saving/loading modern formats. I'm not sure how capable they each are with datatypes, but someone could write a format conversion tool and then tie it into either program with ARexx so as to be largely transparent.
Title: Re: ODF Datatype?
Post by: slaapliedje on January 28, 2014, 11:10:00 PM
I actually think I just found that work!  http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtk-mui/

I'll have to check it out and see where I can go with it.

Also http://aminet.net/package/dev/lib/libgtk-mui.src

slaapliedje