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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 11:56:39 AM

Title: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 11:56:39 AM
finally find boxed amiga 500 today for my collection, i have my amiga  500 but it's without box , this one is like new unused, unit button's  still have little plastic extensions like never be clicked, commodore  sign have plastic protection on , and all warranty sticker's are  included :)

so i wish to find manuals for this amiga, so can you send me picture  here what manuals original came in box with this amiga model, also is it  german or english manuals original came in box for this model?

here is pictures
http://imgur.com/OTBtv7J

http://imgur.com/18Gxivf

http://imgur.com/L0FcLSJ

http://imgur.com/V175b4E

http://imgur.com/A8yF447

http://imgur.com/TlRsNo1

(http://imgur.com/OTBtv7J)
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 12:10:25 PM
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Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: danwood on January 12, 2014, 12:20:54 PM
Quote from: S0nic;757010
finally find boxed amiga 500 today for my collection, i have my amiga  500 but it's without box , this one is like new unused, unit button's  still have little plastic extensions like never be clicked, commodore  sign have plastic protection on , and all warranty sticker's are  included :)

so i wish to find manuals for this amiga, so can you send me picture  here what manuals original came in box with this amiga model, also is it  german or english manuals original came in box for this model?

here is pictures
http://imgur.com/OTBtv7J

http://imgur.com/18Gxivf

http://imgur.com/L0FcLSJ

http://imgur.com/V175b4E

http://imgur.com/A8yF447

http://imgur.com/TlRsNo1

(http://imgur.com/OTBtv7J)


It's a nice example of an A500-Plus but sorry to say, it doesn't look unused.  The warranty seals have obviously been broken and the system case has been opened at one time by the looks of it.  Hopefully to remove the on-board battery as it will be leaking by now and destroying the motherboard, I'd check that ASAP.

It should come with two manuals, one for the hardware set up and one about using AmigaDOS 2.0.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: AmmoJammo on January 12, 2014, 12:22:59 PM
Nope, the plastic on the warranty stickers goes brittle, and can easily be pushed in, without intending to.

I'd agree it hasn't been opened.

It isn't a 500+, so it doesn't have a battery.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
LOL OK , i don't see well , but computer is in mint condition like new , it's not much playing on this unit

i need help here about picture and language of manuals ;)
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: BLTCON0 on January 12, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
@S0nic

It has been opened, see sticker on the back. The gap between the top and bottom shells is visible.

Keyboard layout is Italian, so the manuals would be in either Italian (if made in that language) or English.
It may be the lighting, but some keys seem lower than others. Check the springs underneath.

Documentation could match KS 1.3 or KS 2.04 as this version of A500 ("reduced" A500+) was sold with both.

KS 2.04 models came with "Introducing the A500 and A500+" and "Using the Amiga Workbench" IIRC (gray covers).

KS 1.3 ones should come with "A500 user's manual" and "Amiga Basic" and "Enhancer software" covering Amiga DOS 1.3 (white covers). That said, I think Amiga Basic was taken away from the Extras disk of (some?) international 1.3.3 versions, but the Amiga Basic manual was still included.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 01:01:35 PM
Quote from: danwood;757013
It should come with two manuals, one for the hardware set up and one about using AmigaDOS 2.0.


i think A520 manuals too ,
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: BLTCON0;757019
@S0nic

Keyboard layout is Italian, so the manuals would be in either Italian (if made in that language) or English.
It may be the lighting, but some keys seem lower than others. Check the springs underneath.
.

i can find english on ebay also i speak english , Italian is not my language, so if it is same thing i will take English here

what about a520 manuals? i think they must be included too
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: BLTCON0 on January 12, 2014, 01:07:59 PM
A520 manual should only be included if the A520 modulator was also bundled. This was not always the case.

EDIT: Ah, just saw in that last pic that you indeed got the A520 as well. So yes, there should be an A520 manual too.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: BLTCON0;757022
A520 manual should only be included if the A520 modulator was also bundled. This was not always the case.

Ah, just saw in that last pic that you indeed got the A520 as well. So yes, there should be an A520 manual too.

yes look picture a520 is included, i look only for manuals not floppy's so i find online this 3 manuals is it enough

(http://i.imgur.com/lgyG5Ik.jpg)
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: BLTCON0 on January 12, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
Yes, just keep in mind that these manuals match KS 2.04, not KS 1.3.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: BLTCON0;757024
Yes, just keep in mind that these manuals match KS 2.04, not KS 1.3.

so if i buy these manuals on picture up i must buy KS 2.04

is this ok , i find blue and grey what colour goes with mine?
(http://i.imgur.com/r94MCcp.jpg)
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: BLTCON0 on January 12, 2014, 03:54:52 PM
The photo you posted is of a Workbench 2.04 3-disk set, not of Kickstart 2.04 (which is a ROM chip).

You still have not mentioned which Kickstart version this A500 has so you can't get a correct answer until you do.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 04:47:51 PM
i open amiga and here is pics , do you need more pics? inside is very clean like new, now i check unit is opened before but not motherboard protect metal...now you tell me what floppy's i need and is manual i send up good?


PICTURES
http://imgur.com/JJWGaBE

http://imgur.com/i7NOSO8

http://imgur.com/3hY8dLd


(http://i.imgur.com/i7NOSO8.jpg)
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: danwood on January 12, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: AmmoJammo;757015
Nope, the plastic on the warranty stickers goes brittle, and can easily be pushed in, without intending to.

I'd agree it hasn't been opened.

It isn't a 500+, so it doesn't have a battery.


Hmnm the light was reflecting off the badge too much for me to tell, but it looked like a 500+ badge and it ships with KS 2.04 by the looks of it, also the motherboard seems to say A500+ and has space for a (removed) battery...
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: zipper on January 12, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
ECS Denise 8373, Agnus 8375; A500+
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
yes it says amiga 500 + , i connect on LCD i get this

http://imgur.com/ew0kx2j

it is 1,3 version
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 12, 2014, 10:19:09 PM
now we know that is 1.3 version so i need another manuals , is this ok for amiga 500 plus or this is for amiga 500 only?

(http://i.imgur.com/9pXoOLP.jpg)
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: BLTCON0 on January 13, 2014, 01:02:50 AM
@S0nic
Your Amiga is not exactly an A500+, it uses the same rev8 motherboard and custom chips as the A500+ but it has been factory configured without half the RAM, without the Real Time Clock and without the capability to add 1 MB chip RAM on the trapdoor slot, so essentially it has been brought down to plain old A500 specifications and was actually sold as such.

So it's best to think of it as an A500 and not as an A500+. Commodore certainly believed so ;) (it's a potential A500+, if you like, but you must install all the missing components before it becomes an A500+).

Accordingly, as it was shipped with KS 1.3 (A500+ was never shipped with KS 1.3 btw), these manuals are correct.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on January 13, 2014, 01:10:30 AM
BLT thanks for helping me , now i know what manuals i need , can you tell me or can you find some picture to see original kisk 1.3 for my unit because i don't know how it looks
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: danwood on January 14, 2014, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: S0nic;757083
BLT thanks for helping me , now i know what manuals i need , can you tell me or can you find some picture to see original kisk 1.3 for my unit because i don't know how it looks


Kickstart 1.3 is built into ROM on the A500, you don't need a disk.
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 14, 2014, 06:11:42 PM
Not really sure where you're going with this thread, but this info from Wikipedia might help you:

Quote
Although officially introduced in 1992, some Amiga 500 Plus units had already been sold (masquerading as Amiga 500 models, and with no prior announcement) during late 1991. It has been speculated that Commodore had already sold out the remaining stocks of Amiga 500s, before the run up to the profitable Christmas sales period. In order to make enough A500s before Christmas, Commodore used stocks of the new 8A revision motherboards destined for the A500+. Many users were unaware that they were purchasing anything other than a standard Amiga 500. Although the Amiga 500+ was an improvement to the Amiga 500, it was minor. It was discontinued and replaced by the Amiga 600 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_600) in summer 1992, making it the shortest lived Amiga model

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_500_Plus

So you've got an A500+ motherboard that was downgraded to standard A500 spec, or never outfitted fully with 1MB chip, the battery, or KS2.04 ROM.  You'd probably need the standard A500 1.3 manuals to have a complete set.  Should be plenty of those kicking around, good luck!  :)
Title: Re: Find amiga 500 today )
Post by: S0nic on March 02, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
i finally find all manuals like you tell me here to find, manuals are in mint condition so now my a500+ is complete everything is in mint condition onlay box is used condition , i hook up everything today and put in my commodore collection i hope you like it


(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/DalmatinacST/20140302_194512_resized_1_zpsb8932813.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/DalmatinacST/media/20140302_194512_resized_1_zpsb8932813.jpg.html)


(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/DalmatinacST/20140302_195325_resized_1_zps722bb07b.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/DalmatinacST/media/20140302_195325_resized_1_zps722bb07b.jpg.html)


(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/DalmatinacST/20140302_194555_resized_1_zps82e62d3f.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/DalmatinacST/media/20140302_194555_resized_1_zps82e62d3f.jpg.html)