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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga community support ideas => Topic started by: UK-Robbie on December 28, 2013, 09:43:45 PM
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Hello,
I'm looking for away on backing up my Amiga CF card partitions that as loads of games and programs on it. I like to back it up so i can reinstall the ADF files if anything go wrong.
I have got SD Floppy Emulator Rev C installed inside my Amiga that i can use to reinstall any games from the ADF files.
Any body know of any programs that will let me do this?
I do have this Amiga to PC link and program that will let me make ADF files but it ends up crashing when doing it.
Am looking for any ADF program so i can make it into a HFE file.
Thank you
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Why not just use a regular backup utility to back up the entire partition?
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Can you do stuff like that in workbench or is there some program. I like to make a clone of my partitions.
Thank you
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What i'm trying to do is make a ADF file of all my Partitions on the CF card so i can back it up on my Mac so i know i have a copy.
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Can you do stuff like that in workbench or is there some program. I like to make a clone of my partitions.
Thank you
Wouldn't the easiest solution to clone your partition(s)?
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This is what i'm trying to do, but how and what program to use?
The only tool i have is amiga forever link program.
I did not know if there is any program or anyway on making a clone of my partitions to a ADF file.
Thank you
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This is what i'm trying to do, but how and what program to use?
The only tool i have is amiga forever link program.
I did not know if there is any program or anyway on making a clone of my partitions to a ADF file.
Thank you
You got it all wrong!! You do not partition your Amiga hard drive to ADF file that is impossible. It is like saying, hey guys...I am going to partition my Windows HD of 1 TB to a disk image of 1.44 Mb and I am going to put all the partitions and information of 1 TB into a single floppy disk of 1.44 MB. You can see the impossibility on that.
ADF = Amiga Disk File. It can only hold 880 KB. Even if your HD is 20 MB maximum there is no way you can put 20 MB into 880 ADF disk image.
What you want to do...is put it into a HDF image file....
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@UK-Robbie
Might you happen to already own AmigaKit's EasyADF data transfer kit?
It's makes backups a breeze! You can backup an entire "Disk", SYS or any directory to an LHA file. I also have USB in my A1200 so I just backup to a USB drive. Although the process bombs out when I try to backup my entire "work" drive that includeds hundreds of WHDLoad games.
They are out of stock at the moment but since you're in the UK (I presume from your screen name) maybe pick one up in the near future. Some of the features...
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) Transfer large amounts of files and data from a PC/laptop/Mac to your Amiga ¹
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) Backup (http://www.amigakit.co.uk/support/easyadf-backup.php) files on your Amiga hard disk- transfer them to a PC/laptop/Mac and burn to CD ²
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) CF Digital Camera photos can be accessed with this versatile adapter.
Here's a link to the product page...
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440
Hope this helps.... and welcome to Amiga.org!
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ADFs are floppy disk images. I don't think you meant to back up to those. Easiest thing to do is get another drive and run
copy dh0:#? bu0:dh0bu/ ALL CLONEThat command will clone your DH0: partition to a directory called dh0bu on a disk called BU0:. If anything ever happens to your DH0: partition, just run the command the other way:
copy bu0:dh0bu/#? dh0: ALL CLONE
Make sure this other disk you're backing up to is Amiga-formatted, otherwise you'll lose the AmigaDOS protection bits. If it's not easy for you to attach another drive to your Amiga, you should probably stick the drive in a PC and do this through WinUAE.
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These other guys have it right. Back in the day Amiga's occasionally came with backup utilities. There was ABackup that I think came with 3.1, or Quarterback Tools, or some various utilities on Aminet that I forget the names of, etc. But honestly when I want to make a backup of my Amiga drives now, I just pop in a spare CF or SD card and use DirWork or Directory Opus or somesuch directory utility to make a copy of all the files onto the blank drive. If you have an A1200 you can backup your main drive onto a CF card in the PCMCIA port. Easy!
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You got it all wrong!! You do not partition your Amiga hard drive to ADF file that is impossible. It is like saying, hey guys...I am going to partition my Windows HD of 1 TB to a disk image of 1.44 Mb and I am going to put all the partitions and information of 1 TB into a single floppy disk of 1.44 MB. You can see the impossibility on that.
ADF = Amiga Disk File. It can only hold 880 KB. Even if your HD is 20 MB maximum there is no way you can put 20 MB into 880 ADF disk image.
What you want to do...is put it into a HDF image file....
No what i'm saying is i won't to clone the files off all my partitions into a ADF file. So i have got a ADF file of game partition 1 & 2 and a copy of workbench to a ADF file.
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I will have a look into it!
I know a little bit about Amiga but for a old computer i'm still learning from this day. :laugh1:
Thank you very much all.
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Like Obi-wan said, "ADF is not the file format you're looking for." ;) Just clone the partition onto a separate device. Done.
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Thanks for the help.
I have got one of there's coming to think about it!
But i will have to find it.
Do i need to format the CF card in HDTools for workbench to see it or do i have to install some drivers?
Never got it working before so i put it to one side. lol
Coming to think about it again you are right AmigaClassicRule.
That a ADF is a floppy image and a HDF is a hard drive image.
But i did not know if i can fit all my files into a big ADF image file for the 3 partitions or are they fix size of a floppy disk?
I was thinking of doing this as i can have a backup on my Mac and it's easy to copy files over from my SD Floppy Emulator Rev C.
Thank you
Again still learning :-)
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But i did not know if i can fit all my files into a big ADF image file for the 3 partitions, or are they fix size of a floppy disk?
Seriously, forget about ADF. It's a disk image. Floppy disk only. I think they can go up to 1.76MB, for Amiga HD disks. You can't make an ADF of an entire hard drive. If you did it would be dozens, or hundreds of megabytes. It's not like .zip on a PC, it's a fixed file size format for a specific purpose (floppy disks). If you did want to make a single, big archive of your Amiga hard disk, you'd probably want to use LHA, or one of the Amiga archiving utilities. But not ADF. :D
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Ok forget ADF.. BANG It"S GONE :pint:
May i ask anyway on what is the biggest ADF image size.
Only like to know that's all!
Is it anything like 1.44mb or less then that?
As some games as got 3 to 5 disks, did not know if the biggest ADF image size can fit all of them into one ADF image?
I'm sorry for sounding like a pain in the *** :destroy:
And thank you all very much for all your help.
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Update i miss read what you lass put and thank you for the info :-)
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Bang bang!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Disk_File
:D
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Thank you :-)
That's very helpful as i did know that a ADF is a floppy image but did not know on what size it can go up to as it's a file image and not a floppy disk.
One more thing was that i have seen HDF images before but never used them as my SD Emulator don't let me use them only ADF.
But i have seen HDF image files in PC Amiga emulators and only got back in my head when somebody on here put down what they are.
So again thank you all for your help :-)
I will try and find that CF Adapter .
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Hello,
I'm looking for away on backing up my Amiga CF card partitions that as loads of games and programs on it. I like to back it up so i can reinstall the ADF files if anything go wrong.
I have got SD Floppy Emulator Rev C installed inside my Amiga that i can use to reinstall any games from the ADF files.
Any body know of any programs that will let me do this?
I do have this Amiga to PC link and program that will let me make ADF files but it ends up crashing when doing it.
Am looking for any ADF program so i can make it into a HFE file.
Thank you
I'm not sure why you want to make ADFs due to the size limitation. Perhaps I'm just not understanding what you are trying to do, but I think you may want to use a HDF (Hard Drive File)
Why not create a HDF under UAE the same size as your physical partition you want to backup then you can just mount the CF under UAE and use AmigaDOS to copy all files over to the HDF. example "copy CFHD0: VDH0: all"
then for the most part if your amiga CF ever becomes corrupt/damaged you can reverse the process and restore the corrupt partition(s).
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I'm not sure why you want to make ADFs due to the size limitation. Perhaps I'm just not understanding what you are trying to do, but I think you may want to use a HDF (Hard Drive File)
Why not create a HDF under UAE the same size as your physical partition you want to backup then you can just mount the CF under UAE and use AmigaDOS to copy all files over to the HDF. example "copy CFHD0: VDH0: all"
then for the most part if your amiga CF ever becomes corrupt/damaged you can reverse the process and restore the corrupt partition(s).
Is it me or is he a little bit obsessed with ADF? I have never read that many word "ADF" in a post in this forum than this post here. Let me count how many times ADF is being mentioned here? I will keep you posted with the update!
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24 times ADF being mentioned
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The best way to backup your partitions is to create an LHA archive.
See here for easy to follow instructions. http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=673448&postcount=2
Once you've created the image you can transfer it to your PC/Mac for storage.
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Hey thank you all for the replys!!!
As you may know about now that this post is old news and i have backed up my files fine. :D
Somebody as told me all about file formats so now i know!
HDF to ADF for somebody that don't know what it is at the time.
Is not obsessed!!!
AmigaClassicRule "obsessed with ADF" You are for real right?
Stop being so rude to people.
Thank you
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What i was asking about before anybody starts going on about it! :laugh1:
I was looking for away on backing up my files of my partitons so i can have a backup.
I don't know a lot about Amigas in file formats and did not know what i was trying to do will work as i have got this SD emulator.
I did know that a floppy image is called "ADF", but i did not know what SIZE that the image file can go up to!!!
As i know you can make your own with some programs. I have got one on my Windows PC that will let you make your own.
Now i know that it's a Floppy disk size i can stop asking :quickdraw:
I did know that a hard drive image is a HDF image but never played with them only on Amiga emulators years ago.
I'm still learning Amiga and still love playing on them, use to have one when i was a kid. :banana:
So sorry for all the pain i have given you all and thank you for your help ;)
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I used QuarterBack to back up my HD's a while back with no problem at all. Even fixed a few dmaged blocks on them before backing them up.