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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: phoenixkonsole on December 23, 2013, 03:15:50 PM
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(http://www.aeros-os.org/files/ares1-2.png)(http://www.aeros-os.org/files/broadwayx.jpg)
A video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCLjLccU2To&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCLjLccU2To&feature=player_embedded)
Registered users can now download beta6.
In roughly 3 hours unregistered users can too (still uploading).
The free "public" version can be found later on http://www.aeros-os.org public sub-page
What is new in beta6:
- made alias "omxplayer" under AROS. If you put videos into the video-folder you can run them from any place with "omxplayer nameofvideo" from AROS shell
it supports full HD-Playback through GPU (some additional codecs can be purchased from pi-store)
- Linux-Filesystem is now accessible thanks to deadwood fix
- I have added Home: and Media: to Wanderer
- Updated AROS and Linux systemfiles
- Added some icons for Synaptic and File-manager (looks like IndieGO!-Marketplace icon but it just launches Synaptic ; )
- Added Pi-store-icon
- Added UAE4all (untested, experimental)
- If you click double a video file in Linux file manager, it will be played through omxplayer
I wish you merry christmas
http://www.aeros-os.org
Downloads will be safe from 19:30 german time.
Known bugs:
Icons on wanderer are placed wrong (autoclean or resorting is needed every time you boot up)
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I briefly read the page..
So..the public x86 beta6 version has this "JanusUAE" built in and I can click on Amiga apps/games and they should work?
UAE4All is a standalone executable, correct?
If yes to both..that is pretty interesting.
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I briefly read the page..
So..the public x86 beta6 version has this "JanusUAE" built in and I can click on Amiga apps/games and they should work?
UAE4All is a standalone executable, correct?
I think you need to read the headline again AEROS is for the Raspberry Pi and is ARM based not x86. :-)
But other than that yes it should run amiga game adf's but I think you need to supply your own kickstart rom image along with the adf games you want to play.
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I knew that was for the Pi...I just thought a beta6 x86 version was going to be released also.
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Hi,
AEROS for x86 is available as r3.5, so no beta and it includes janusuae as well as Aros vision (68k distribution).
It is old and an update (r4) is planned to be released together with the indiego-marketplace. Also it will no more be bounded to a special configuration (AresOne) but should work on any pc from 2003 or newer.
On pi i plan to offer an option to boot straight in4o uae4all without x11. It needs original roms in the moment
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Links are offline or need to donate or buy something?
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Hi,
Public page
http://aeros-os.org/styled-11/index.html
If you like to try out the registered version you could for example donate to the odyssey bounty on http://www.power2people.org
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For awhile now, I've wanted to buy a rasperry pi and a case for it... Knowing this is available sure makes me wanna do that more.
I hear linux is slow, how is this as far as snappiness and responsiveness?
I'm off to find some youtube vids of raspberry pi AROS...
Steven
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Scrolling and "resizing" windows is slow. Everything else is ok.
Videos are made with stock clock @700MHZ and a slow 4GB SD-Card.
You can use the icon "raspi-config" to over clock the Pi up to 1GHZ (i suggest a passive cooler at this point ; ) ).
Video about beta 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmUxs-fjQ8k
You can use the mouse-wheel to minimize a linux-app-window to its title-bar. This way it can be moved without lag as shown in the video.
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For awhile now, I've wanted to buy a rasperry pi and a case for it... Knowing this is available sure makes me wanna do that more.
I hear linux is slow, how is this as far as snappiness and responsiveness?
I'm off to find some youtube vids of raspberry pi AROS...
Steven
If you run AROS hosted directly from the console rather than running if from x-windows it make it a lot snappier and fix's most of the slow scrolling and windows move/resize issues.
The only downside is you can no longer run x11 applications at the same time under AROS.
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Yep which is exactly the bonus if you run AROS hosted ; )
So without the possibility to run Linux apps i would prefer AROS native.
As soon (if ever) Wayland is ready (people say it will be in january/february because it was targeted for late 2013) X11 will benefit too. There will be a X11/Wayland-wrapper called XWayland.
EDIT:
on the other hand.. if people run at 1GHZ, mine is only 70% as fast (=700MHZ). So Overclocking may help too.
Also i can't remember that i have used ii the Pentium 200 times any resolution higher than 1024x768 on my CRT : )
So maybe something lower than 1080p may help too ; )
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@phoenixkonsole
Is the lha command available in AEROS? as I cant seem to find it and I am having trouble extracting and running the development test version of DOPUS5 for arm. At the moment I have extracted the archive with the linux version of lha (lhasa) but no matter were I but the dopus5.library it can't find it on startup, so I would like to make sure I am extracting the file correctly and would rather use the AROS version of lha but I cant seem to find it :-)
Trying to extract the file with DOPUS4 also results in an lha not found error and I would also like to fix that as well as for me DOPUS4 and 5 are the killer apps that make AROS on ARM make sense, but I understand they may not be as important to other AEROS users.
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Not at home rigtht now. I agree that lha is important.
Could you please check if it is available under Extras:Misc/Aminet/C/ ? If yes i will add it to c next time.
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Not at home rigtht now. I agree that lha is important.
Could you please check if it is available under Extras:Misc/Aminet/C/ ? If yes i will add it to c next time.
Thanks.
Yes its in there along with a number other AROS command line archive tools.
Adding it to c: or adding Extras:Misc/Aminet/c/ to the path if that's were it is normally in AROS builds would be very helpful.
I am really beginning to quite enjoy AEROS os on my Pi is just getting to the stage were it really feels like its adding something useful the the desktop experience rather than just being a slightly snappier way of lunching linux apps.
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Ok will change that.
Just a sidenote:
This is the place where all other aros builds keep those tools. On x86 distros we had to keep an eye to that.
Pure nightlies have them under extras:misc/aminet/c
Thanks for your feedback, helps a lot.
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For awhile now, I've wanted to buy a rasperry pi and a case for it... Knowing this is available sure makes me wanna do that more.
I hear linux is slow, how is this as far as snappiness and responsiveness?
I'm off to find some youtube vids of raspberry pi AROS...
Steven
X11 (the GUI part of Linux) is very slow. Plus, if you have bad graphic card drivers, that won't help either at all. They're developing alternatives to X11 currently, like Mir and Wayland.
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Does it have a 68K emulation layer to run classic apps?
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Nope no layer yet. You can only run E-UAE or better UAE4all which is optimized for ARM devices.
Enhancing VAMOS to work as Wrapper with included 68k emulator could work but would be a huge project but also interesting for i386 branch. This one would have the same compatibility as AmigaOS4 or MOS. This means that Custom-chips would not be emulated.
JanusUAE emulated everything but it brings overhead.
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X11 (the GUI part of Linux) is very slow. Plus, if you have bad graphic card drivers, that won't help either at all.
X11 in itself is not slow; that is a common misconception. I am a chip designer and use X11 all day. Raspi X11 is slow because of unaccelerated drivers.
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+1
Thanks fats, i getting tired of repeating.
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@phoenixkonsole
Hi I don't know if you have tried it get but an execrated version of the x11 driver has now been released for the Raspberry Pi and it seems to make x11 and AROS on the raspberry Pi feel a lot more snappy. see http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5580 for more details.
You can install it under AEROS by opening a linux xterminal and running the following.
1. "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade" and agreeing to downloads and install to upgrade to the new firmware and linux kernal.
2. "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fbturbo"
You will then need to reboot your Raspberry Pi to load the new kernel and faster xorg driver.
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Thanks afaik it is already part of latest raspbian but maybe this is different again.
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nope it is newer! Thanks.
Edit:
Hw accelerated x11. Oh boy need to test asap
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nope it is newer! Thanks.
Edit:
Hw accelerated x11. Oh boy need to test asap
I only had a short time last night to test it out after getting the updates downloaded and the driver setup but so far I would say that the new x11 driver feels as fast or faster than running AROS hosted without x11 running. I will need to see if I can find a display benchmark tool for aros to run a real comparison, but so far I am quite pleased with the difference the new driver makes.
On a related note I would like to try out UAE4all now we have a better display driver to see what the speed is like but I am not sure were to install the required kickstart rom file, So can I ask that you add that information to the release news for the ext release so everyone knows how to use it in future.
Thanks again for all your hard work AEROS on the Raspberry Pi, its now beginning to feel like a real usable next gen Amiga system rather than just a fun toy :-)
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Nice nice and triple nice!
it must be called kick.rom and place it in extras:classic/uae4all
Not proven yet but i believe that only kick13 is supported by this version.
EDIT:
"It provides 2D Acceleration for moving windows and scrolling for the Raspberry Pi (using the Raspberry Pi DMA Controller)"
MUHAHAHA! *evil laugh*
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I just downloaded the beta 6, public release. Extracted the archive and wrote the image to my 8GB SD card.
Putting the SD card into my pi (256MB version) and power up.
I can see there is an error message while booting, "Error: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libcofi_rpi.so' from /etc/ld.so.preload cannot not be preloaded"
From the installation manual on the aeros website it says you should enter the following:
"sudo Xorg -configure"
When I enter that command (without the quotes), it repeats that same ld.so error message, plus another line "sudo: unknown uid 0: who are you?"
Any idea what could be wrong here?