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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Marmes on November 30, 2013, 03:20:10 AM
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Can anyone help me?
I want to buy a monitor, but don't know wich one.
CM8833MK2 or M1438S for amiga 1200/4000.
Thanks for your opinions!
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id get a indivisionaga card for your 1200 ..then u can use any pc monitor ..
more choice resolution etc..much better than any amiga monitor ..
my opinion ..
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Can anyone help me?
I want to buy a monitor, but don't know wich one.
CM8833MK2 or M1438S for amiga 1200/4000.
Thanks for your opinions!
AAACHIPSET have right !! :D M1438 was good in 95-6 year CM8833MK2 the same very good CRT but in 94 year :) , and today I recommend for U indivision AGAmk2 or other Scandobuler and EIZO LCD M1701 or 1700 if do You love Your eyes , or if You do not love your eyes :) I recommend M1438S
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Can anyone help me?
I want to buy a monitor, but don't know wich one.
CM8833MK2 or M1438S for amiga 1200/4000.
Thanks for your opinions!
M1438S better
Philips looks too ugly
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Can anyone help me?
I want to buy a monitor, but don't know wich one.
CM8833MK2 or M1438S for amiga 1200/4000.
Thanks for your opinions!
Depends what you do with your Amiga. For pure gaming I'd say CM8833, but M1438S is pretty good too and allows you to use higher flicker free screen modes for utility use. Only drawback I seem to remember is that with M1438S you had to adjust image size between the modes and was there some borders left with AGA modes...
With Scandoubler like Indivision you get really sharp picture, but scrolling isn't smooth, so for pure gaming I wouldn't go with it if you have real video monitors as an option. But for utility use and casual gaming it's good.
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Can anyone help me?
I want to buy a monitor, but don't know wich one.
CM8833MK2 or M1438S for amiga 1200/4000.
Thanks for your opinions!
If you have your heart set on a CRT, then for gaming I'd go for the CM8833MkI/II, but for anything else other than games I'd go the Indivision route.
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Thanks for the answers. I think for a matter of space I will go for scandoubler :)
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With Scandoubler like Indivision you get really sharp picture, but scrolling isn't smooth
Sorry, but I'm going to call BS on this urban legend. I own two Indivisions, both which are hooked up to high quality displays, and have zero problems with scrolling. It *all* depends on the type of display you hook it up to. If you use a cheap cable or some cheap-@ss TV or old monitor yeah, you'll probably have problems, but anything with a modern refresh rate should zoom right along. Money for Indivisions = money well spent, IMHO.
Or maybe your eyes are just better than mine. :crazy:
;)
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Sorry, but I'm going to call BS on this urban legend. I own two Indivisions, both which are hooked up to high quality displays, and have zero problems with scrolling. It *all* depends on the type of display you hook it up to. If you use a cheap cable or some cheap-@ss TV or old monitor yeah, you'll probably have problems, but anything with a modern refresh rate should zoom right along. Money for Indivisions = money well spent, IMHO.
Or maybe your eyes are just better than mine. :crazy:
;)
Modern refresh rates exactly _are_ the problems. If you go anything else than 50Hz you _see_ the stuttering in scrolling. When the output from old Amiga games is 50Hz and your display is something else, there will be skipped frames which is seen with "normal" eyes. And while you can configure for example Indivision AGA mk2 to 50Hz modes, it still doesn't support V-Sync and scrolling won't be smooth. This is much complained and requested feature with Indy mk2 threads.
If there are older scandoublers with 50Hz V-synced outputs, then fine I take my words back with them, they should be good, but they require 50Hz support from monitor too. Most modern LCD monitors start from 60Hz and that's a problem.
Anyway, Amiga is known from its smooth scrolilng games, so it's a shame to lose that with some solutions. Good examples are platformers and pinball games... let SlamTilt scroll its table and you'll get very annoyed with not fitting refresh rates. At least I do with my Indy mk2 :) But for some kind of games it's not that bad.. if game doesn't go in one frame or is 3D etc where refresh rates aren't steady anyway, eyes don't catch it that easily.
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When the output from old Amiga games is 50Hz and your display is something else
Aaaaah. I think I understand the issue. I haven't had to play with it in a while, but as I recall Indivision has two selectable output modes. 1.00 and 1.25. 1.00 is 50Hz PAL and 60Hz NTSC. 1.25 is 62.5Hz PAL and 75Hz NTSC. I live in North America. My main TV that I use with my Amigas has no problems syncing to 60Hz, 75Hz, on up to around 120Hz. The rare handful of times I've needed to mess with some old PAL software, my TV was also able to sync down to 50Hz. But just with the defaults you get 60Hz output from the Indivision and 60Hz input on the TV = no scrolling problems. You darned Europeans and your flickery 50Hz screenmodes, LOL. ;) Kidding! :insane: