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Title: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: curtis on November 11, 2013, 09:02:18 PM
Been trying for all weekend to get IDEFIX97 working on my A2000 so I could get the CD going.

Using OS 3.1 (clean install) kept copying the installer over from my Win 7 machine with a 3.5" drive attached.  Once I get it over to the Amiga, I discovered somewhere along the way the archive file was renamed Instal~1.lha.  No matter what I did, I couldn't get it to install or work properly.

Finally today I got to thinking about wildcards (don't know why!) but checked the AmigaDOS manual and sure enough the ~ (aka tilde) is a wildcard that specifies "ignore everything before this!

Back to the PC and rename the file to Nstalr.lha and BACK over to the Amiga and Voila!  It worked!

What a ROYAL PIA!!!
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 11, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
Sounds like your floppy disks are not set up to support more than 8.3 name extensions.  Common problem.  Glad you got it resolved!  :)
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: gertsy on November 11, 2013, 09:19:43 PM
The old tilde filename problem. All Amiga users have and will continue to hit that one. That's why I archive up to a transfer file (WinRAR), put it on CF or CD and unarchive on the mig.
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: curtis on November 11, 2013, 09:52:22 PM
Would've been nice to do, but I was installing IDEFIX97 to install a CD!

The ever popular Catch-22 problem!

Quote from: gertsy;752529
The old tilde filename problem. All Amiga users have and will continue to hit that one. That's why I archive up to a transfer file (WinRAR), put it on CF or CD and unarchive on the mig.
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: Thorham on November 11, 2013, 10:09:55 PM
That's what you get when you use FAT16 formatted floppies :p
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 11, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
As a side note, I really hate when people blame Windows for things that are either (a) operator error, or (b) legacy issues dating back to file systems designed in the 1970's.  But I'll climb off my soapbox now, LOL.  :crazy:
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: Thorham on November 11, 2013, 11:12:41 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;752540
As a side note, I really hate when people blame Windows for things that are either (a) operator error, or (b) legacy issues dating back to file systems designed in the 1970's.
Oh come on, probably EVERYONE has done blamed something at some point while they were at fault. Learn from it, and move on :)
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: curtis on November 11, 2013, 11:12:49 PM
Quote from: Thorham;752537
That's what you get when you use FAT16 formatted floppies :p


Well, ya know, I formatted it on the Amiga...
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: curtis on November 11, 2013, 11:15:33 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;752540
As a side note, I really hate when people blame Windows for things that are either (a) operator error, or (b) legacy issues dating back to file systems designed in the 1970's.  But I'll climb off my soapbox now, LOL.  :crazy:


Go ahead and stay up there...  You make a much easier target!  :)

After all, aren't almost all Amiga's considered legacy?
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: Matt_H on November 11, 2013, 11:50:00 PM
The last version of CrossDOS (v7?) supports long filenames, but it was a commercial product. The version bundled with the OS is an older one.

I think fat95 (on Aminet) supports floppies if you need an alternative for future sneakernetting :)
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: curtis on November 11, 2013, 11:56:48 PM
I'll look into that.

If I remember next time...
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: PanterHZ on November 12, 2013, 02:00:16 AM
Quote from: curtis;752524
Been trying for all weekend to get IDEFIX97 working on my A2000 so I could get the CD going.

Using OS 3.1 (clean install) kept copying the installer over from my Win 7 machine with a 3.5" drive attached.  Once I get it over to the Amiga, I discovered somewhere along the way the archive file was renamed Instal~1.lha.  No matter what I did, I couldn't get it to install or work properly.

Finally today I got to thinking about wildcards (don't know why!) but checked the AmigaDOS manual and sure enough the ~ (aka tilde) is a wildcard that specifies "ignore everything before this!

Back to the PC and rename the file to Nstalr.lha and BACK over to the Amiga and Voila!  It worked!

What a ROYAL PIA!!!

You could probably also have fixed this on the Amiga by renaming the Instal~1.lha file from Workbench, or maybe you could have used the option switch that turns off pattern matching in LhA.

I will also recommend that you install Fat95.
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: tone007 on November 12, 2013, 04:57:02 AM
Quote from: curtis;752545
After all, aren't almost all Amiga's considered legacy?


Pretty sure Amigas are considered "obsolete."
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: psxphill on November 12, 2013, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: PanterHZ;752553
You could probably also have fixed this on the Amiga by renaming the Instal~1.lha file from Workbench, or maybe you could have used the option switch that turns off pattern matching in LhA.

I would have thought putting the file name in double quotes would work. It's been a long time since I copied something across from a PC using a floppy but I don't remember ever having problems with files with ~ in them (other than my own ability to recognise what the file was).
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: curtis on November 12, 2013, 01:49:29 PM
Didn't think of the double quotes!  Have to admit, it's been a bit since I've really dealt with CLI in this much depth.
Title: Re: I hate windows!!!!
Post by: curtis on November 12, 2013, 02:57:13 PM
Okay, to add insult to injury, when I went to test the CD-ROM, I popped my Amiga Forever DVD in and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't read it!

Classic hand to forehead moment when I figured THAT one out!