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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: SysAdmin on November 07, 2013, 06:20:32 PM
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News from the Washington Post
Why is this type of news on Amiga.org? DFX the owner of Amiga.org has an unreleased underground kult film exposing the dangers of Trans Fats. Trans Fat is a Killer in your food. Amiga's were used in the production of the unavailable film.
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"The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday took steps toward eliminating trans fats in food products, all but ensuring that the artery-clogging ingredient gradually will vanish from the U.S. food supply.
A common ingredient in processed foods such as frozen pizzas, frostings, microwave popcorn and coffee creamers, trans fats have increasingly disappeared from grocery stores and restaurant menus in recent years amid widespread agreement about the risks they pose to public health.
New York and other cities have imposed bans on the substance, and in 2006 the FDA began requiring food manufacturers to print details about trans fats on nutritional labels. Those efforts appear to have put a significant dent in the consumption of trans fats. According to the FDA, intake among Americans declined from 4.6 grams per day in 2003 to about one gram per day last year.
But Thursday’s announcement was a move toward eliminating their use altogether."
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Read more
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trans-fats-to-be-phased-out-fda-says/2013/11/07/80cfc8be-47c4-11e3-a196-3544a03c2351_story.html
http://www.pinterest.com/cspinutrition/trans-fat-wall-of-shame/
http://www.oilchangemovie.com
For more information on what happened to Oil Change the movie please read the DiscreetFX interview in Amiga Future #101.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FWwAJomAks
http://www.amigafuture.de/kb.php?mode=article&k=4341
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That's it. I'm done.
ADMINS: I come here for Amiga, not politics. I can get non-Amiga stuff plenty of other places. Delete my account effective immediately.
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That's it. I'm done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1_fDwX1VVY
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But how do we LoadWB and enter desktop mode when LoadWB get deleted? :laugh1::biglaugh::biglaugh::roflmao:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1_fDwX1VVY
Don't know what that is, and don't care. The fact that my account is still active and your response was to post a video and not delete my account, or even bother to contact me, shows me in finality the level of respect you have for your users.
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Even if the news could be interesting and I think there IS a place for it, it's definitely not on the front page as Amiga news, but hey it's their site, they choose the direction they want to give it, there are other Amiga sites for us to use, choice is good.
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LoadWB: I love it..."I'm done"...13 minutes later..."I'm back", ha, ha...welcome back dude.
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Don't know what that is, and don't care. The fact that my account is still active and your response was to post a video and not delete my account, or even bother to contact me, shows me in finality the level of respect you have for your users.
You were contacted already, also you know accounts don't get deleted on Amiga.org because it would mess up the datebase of the site and it make unrealiable for all members. The forum software we use does not react well to deleting accounts and screwing up posts that were made by that member and the included threads the posts are in. If it's not already clear in the terms of service I will update them to explain that accounts don't get deleted on Amiga.org to protect the health and stability of the site. I strive to keep Amiga.org 99% Amiga/AROS/MorphOS & Amiga Virtual Machine related. Occasionally you may see other tech news that is also of interest to most of our members. Feel free to avoid those news items or if your convictions against this are so strong maybe Amiga.org is not the site for you.
You can remove yourself from Amiga.org easy, remove your e-mail address from your account then reset your password to something random that you don't know. If you like I can do this for you or give you a permanent ban. The choice is yours. In this case the ban would be because you requested it and not a infraction against you. Thus you could request your account be reinstated at anytime in the future. We enjoy you being a member of Amiga.org and maybe we can agree to disagree on some things so you can stick around and continue to post on the site. It's really up to you.
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I don't see why LoadWB blew up about off-topicness when a quick look at his post history shows him rambling about ObamaCare™ in the "Amiga.org Discussion and Site Feedback" sub forum.
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As my major was in Pre-Veterinary Animal Science (don't ask, its silly complicated) and I've had a lot of courses covering food science, I will say that the moderator's point about the dangers of long chain polymerized fats is not an exaggeration.
But then again, and before I get moderated out of here for awhile, what the HECK is this stuff doing here?
The electric car posts were off base enough, but this has no real place in the forum.
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As my major was in Pre-Veterinary Animal Science (don't ask, its silly complicated) and I've had a lot of courses covering food science, I will say that the moderator's point about the dangers of long chain polymerized fats is no an exaggeration.
But then again, and before I get moderated out of here for awhile, what the HECK is this stuff doing here?
The electric car posts were off base enough, but this has no real place in the forum.
It's here because we used Amiga's to help make a unreleased film about the dangers of Trans Fats and get bugged all the time about when it's coming out. We may release some of the footage from the film at some point in the future.
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It's here because we used Amiga's to help make a unreleased film about the dangers of Trans Fats and get bugged all the time about when it's coming out. We may release some of the footage from the film at some point in the future.
Now that would make it interesting.
I thought video editing on the Amiga was a relatively dead issue, until I stumbled upon a large number of eBay buyers that were still rabidly supporting that stuff.
I thought the bargain basement prices on video toaster boards was an indication of their fading popularity.
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@Iggy
Also whilst Video Toasters may have seen better use in the 90´s with analog video editing, there is still many other Amiga hardware & software combinations that can provide NLE capabilities, which seem more reasonable these days.
Just to name a few:
DPS TBC IV + DPS PAR (Necos)
Macrosystem Vlab Motion (Movieshop)
Digital Micronics/Applied Magic Broadcaster (Producer)
As a matter of fact, I actively do my own videoediting stuff in a DraCo, wich is a specialized Amiga like workstation designed for NLE, running AmigaOS.
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Thanks for posting, good to see people are still making use of their Amigas.
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I am joining LoadWB. I guess this is the thread to announce that you are leaving.
Before I leave I want to say I had nothing to do with any computers being peed on. It is pure fiction. Who wants to be blamed for peeing on computers? Also, keep in mind the seller was a girl, I am guy, living a city away from where this girl was. I wish she would join and explain herself.
Please ban my account.
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I am joining LoadWB. I guess this is the thread to announce that you are leaving.
Before I leave I want to say I had nothing to do with any computers being peed on. It is pure fiction. Who wants to be blamed for peeing on computers? Also, keep in mind the seller was a girl, I am guy, living a city away from where this girl was. I wish she would join and explain herself.
Please ban my account.
Your entire obsession with this whole pee'd on hardware issue is disturbing.
I used to have a friend that had the neurotic habit of mentioning that it smelled like cat pee whenever we were around a certain type of evergreen shrub (which, curiously enough, does smell like cat pee).
But you are doing nothing good by over reacting to the comments.
Are you sure you don't pee on hardware and then sell it to people?
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I do see the amiga relation in this news article and I do look forward to watching the video.
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Why is this type of news on Amiga.org? DFX the owner of Amiga.org has an unreleased underground kult film exposing the dangers of Trans Fats.
Hahahahaha.
On my first read, I stopped at "unreleased", because I had spilled my coffee all over my keyboard (seriously, unreleased? I thought the "A" in "DFX" stands for "available now"?)
Thank god I read it a second time: "unreleased underground kult film"... Jesus Christ.
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That's it. I'm done.
ADMINS: I come here for Amiga, not politics. I can get non-Amiga stuff plenty of other places. Delete my account effective immediately.
Oh. My. God. The horror. Oh man it must be unbearable to have ~5 new topics per day on this forum and one not be of interest to you.
News flash: not a ton happening in the Amiga world these days.
Let me go get the box of kleenex for you to wipe your tears, give me a break, holy hell. See, this is an example of why I'm getting ready to ditch the Amiga community: It's full of crybaby's and winers, and everyone is always so angry and judgemental that nothing seemingly good ever happens in the community. Peace.
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This should not be in the news section. Put it in CH or video toaster section. Perfectly good place to talk about it there.
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What's next? Flying bananas plot to conquer the universe?
:banana:
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I am very interested in video editing at the moment and also interested in the Amiga but given the absolutely insane prices people are asking for pee yellow coloured 4000/030 machines these days I can never see myself editing analog video using Amigas no matter how nice an experience it is.
The hardware is too difficult to find and the Toaster is NTSC only and Analog so useless for 2/3 of the planet pretty much now.
Digital editing is an awesome concept but sadly needs CPU muscle, something no Amiga can provide at a reasonable cost to make this feasible.
Yes my post has nothing to do with the article, but then the article has nothing news worthy to do with Amigas as no new hardware being key to its production is mentioned ;)
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Theres definately a bit of a "reaching its use by date" odour to amiga.org these days.
Lots of long time users are becoming discontent, many have already left, more and more demonstrations of what appears to be bizarre anti-windows form of OCD by the sites maintainer, and other annoyances that have historically led to sites deaths.
Personally Im also pretty close to calling it a day in regards to this site as well.
Its barely a shadow of its former self.
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I am very interested in video editing at the moment and also interested in the Amiga but given the absolutely insane prices people are asking for pee yellow coloured 4000/030 machines these days I can never see myself editing analog video using Amigas no matter how nice an experience it is.
The hardware is too difficult to find and the Toaster is NTSC only and Analog so useless for 2/3 of the planet pretty much now.
Digital editing is an awesome concept but sadly needs CPU muscle, something no Amiga can provide at a reasonable cost to make this feasible.
Yes my post has nothing to do with the article, but then the article has nothing news worthy to do with Amigas as no new hardware being key to its production is mentioned ;)
You can always have a PAL Video Toaster, you just need to use a transcoder just like the GVP TBC+ or The Progressive Image TBC. Or you can alternatively use non Amiga cheap generic ones you find on auction sites.
With a Zorro II 68030 Amiga and 8 MB of fastmem I was able to do NLE with a Toccata and a Vlab Motion. No need for a power horse.
I understand, and agree that Amiga prices are insanely high, but you can always get good prices if you buy them out of the Amiga community (we have lots of hoarders and quick buck fuc*ers in this community).
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What's next? Flying bananas plot to conquer the universe?
:banana:
Shh, don't let on you know about that.
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@fishy_fiz
I always thought the Amiga users never minded a little MS bashing after the sofies killed Commodore but maybe I'm wrong about that? I'm willing to listen and not post the occasional thread in alternative operating systems about the downfalls of MS if it really bothers people. It's hard for me to fathom why some are so offended by off topic threads they don't have to click on that are still tech related. Based on server logs Amiga.org has grown a lot since 2009 so your opinion while welcome is not accurate. A few posters are always quick to criticize the site but are unwilling to help make it better.
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Theres definately a bit of a "reaching its use by date" odour to amiga.org these days.
Lots of long time users are becoming discontent, many have already left, more and more demonstrations of what appears to be bizarre anti-windows form of OCD by the sites maintainer, and other annoyances that have historically led to sites deaths.
Personally Im also pretty close to calling it a day in regards to this site as well.
Its barely a shadow of its former self.
Frankly, most of the time I just say screw it and endure this painful crap.
After all, most of our ex-patriots can still be reached via the internet.
Besides, I honestly think some of you are taking things too seriously (oh, oh goto go - I think I saw the cat peeing on some of my surplus hardware).
edit - Yo SysAdmin, the only thing that killed Commodore was criminally bad management.
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You can always have a PAL Video Toaster, you just need to use a transcoder just like the GVP TBC+ or The Progressive Image TBC. Or you can alternatively use non Amiga cheap generic ones you find on auction sites.
With a Zorro II 68030 Amiga and 8 MB of fastmem I was able to do NLE with a Toccata and a Vlab Motion. No need for a power horse.
I understand, and agree that Amiga prices are insanely high, but you can always get good prices if you buy them out of the Amiga community (we have lots of hoarders and quick buck fuc*ers in this community).
There is no way you can convert NTSC video to PAL and not have it look like the terrible broadcast quality of Star Trek The Next Generation in PAL territories no matter how much you spend. Toaster is great for places where you have NTSC but even Babylon 5 DVDs in PAL look a bit ropey to me when stretch to 625 lines :)
There was two motion JPEG cards I can remember, VLAB Motion is one and P.A.R. was the other IIRC. Never seen either for sale since the 90s when they were reviewed in CU Amiga mag though.
As for getting an Amiga 4000, well that's my own fault for going to bed to 'sleep on it' when I say an 040 base unit only last Xmas up for £299 BIN on ebay which was not yellowed at all. Live and learn eh lol
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the only thing that killed Commodore was criminally bad management.
More like silly people buying NES consoles and PC AT EGA $5000 'home PCs' if you ask me. The EU side was quite profitable even when they concentrated on the ugly duckling CD32 right to the very end IIRC :) A 28mhz 020 4mb A1200 with optional PCMCIA CD-ROM drive was the only thing Commodore should have been selling in 1993 FACT. If they had to have a console they should also have spent more than 5 shiny pennies on the styling LOL
There's a lot of reasons why Commodore were forced into bankruptcy by their creditors in the US IMHO but I think the damage was just as much down to some really pathetic coding on most of the games software too..........if Amiga games had the same sort of talented coders and graphic artists/musicians as the Nintendo and Sega games had thrown at them then it would have been a massive struggle in the EU for the poncy Mac and crash-o-rific PC to get a foot in the door of homes this side of the pond (unlike Americans UK computer users wouldn't p1ss on a PC even in the days of 386DX £1000 bundles to be honest).
If only every game was as slick and hardware feature exceeding as the best Amiga games, common in the console world, things could have still been different.
Then again the managers that turned the $60 Commodore TED based computer project into the 'more than the price of a C64' Plus/4 cockup and the monumental disaster technically that the C128 was (which cost more than a 520ST FFS) probably still existed in the time of Medhi 'is he dead yet please' Ali so yeah doomed it was and not just by Doom on PC x86 ;)
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I'm not sure I get your point Amiga nut, either the management was or they weren't at fault.
And personally, I always tend to think of Amiga and the rest of Commodore's line separately (although, God knows, management didn't make to many great decisions developing the Amiga line either).
Frankly, I think they just got too used to the high profits generated by $200 C64s that had a $2 processor in them and they couldn't get it past their thick heads that that situation couldn't last forever.
And I wish I could have been a fly on the wall during the C128's design sessions. I want to know which genius went "I've got it, we'll make it capable of running CP/M 'cause God knows those C64 users love programs without graphics and sound".
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This is as a bad as the story about Kanye West using the word Amiga in a sentence....sheesh...
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But..he said "Amiga".
Isn't that news worthy?
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Based on server logs Amiga.org has grown a lot since 2009 so your opinion while welcome is not accurate.
Yeah, because page hits are the definitive measure of site quality (and how many of those come from search bots driven by the relentless link-baiting, anyway?) Look around you - the site is down to maybe a dozen regularly active members from well over fifty when I joined, and a lot of that exodus was driven by exactly this kind of link-baiting nonsense and the ensuing flamewars.
A few posters are always quick to criticize the site but are unwilling to help make it better.
I'm more than willing to help. Give me access, and I'll clean up the garbage threads/forums and clear off the VigLink crap.
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Yeah, because page hits are the definitive measure of site quality (and how many of those come from search bots driven by the relentless link-baiting, anyway?) Look around you - the site is down to maybe a dozen regularly active members from well over fifty when I joined, and a lot of that exodus was driven by exactly this kind of link-baiting nonsense and the ensuing flamewars.
I'm more than willing to help. Give me access, and I'll clean up the garbage threads/forums and clear off the VigLink crap.
I have to agree with you. The only reason I still show up here is out of morbid curiosity or to poke fun at the link-baiting!
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I like the crazy ebay postings. I also come here to find out about the FPGA hardware projects.
I don't mind the Windows bashing especially about 8.
Funny, the latest help posts were about a PSU breaking down and another person who had (nearly) forgotten how to use an Amiga.
The hobby is in dire need of a refresher. When I get around to buying some of that new hardware, I will feel refreshed.
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P. S.
If I donate $5 a month, you won't need these linkbaiting posts?
I'll just set up paypal again.
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The more of us that leave the less people around to complain when the site gets sold to Butch Latina man-haters.
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The more of us that leave the less people around to complain when the site gets sold to Butch Latina man-haters.
It's really frustrating, actually. The more people leave the harder it is to get good help with classic systems. I understand there's a1k but that's all in German, and EAB but site navigation and layout on there leave me wanting to pull my hair out... for the past 10 years a.org was my #1 go-to resource for questions on classic systems, and I've always tried to use my limited knowledge to help others here where I can... but it seems like site owners don't care that they're driving away all the actual knowledgeable people and just leaving it to the trolls and jokers. I'm considering learning German at this point! *sigh* :angryfire:
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@Oldsmobile_Mike
Feel free to PM me any suggestions or improvements you have for the site. I do listen to all reasonable and good feedback. Now please everyone back on topic. No more OT posts in this trans fat thread.
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5 foods that face changes with trans-fat ban.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/11/08/5-foods-that-face-changes-with-trans-fat-ban/
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It's really frustrating, actually. The more people leave the harder it is to get good help with classic systems. I understand there's a1k but that's all in German, and EAB but site navigation and layout on there leave me wanting to pull my hair out... for the past 10 years a.org was my #1 go-to resource for questions on classic systems, and I've always tried to use my limited knowledge to help others here where I can... but it seems like site owners don't care that they're driving away all the actual knowledgeable people and just leaving it to the trolls and jokers. I'm considering learning German at this point! *sigh* :angryfire:
I know what you mean. I have periods where I just cannot be bothered to visit here let alone login for months at a time since Wayne sold up but I always come back.
I've always tried to help people with my limited knowledge too but as you mentioned many of the most knowledgeable people have long since moved on sadly. :(
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@nicholas
The utopia you talk about with Wayne running the show ended in 2009. Wayne no longer had any interest in the Amiga and would have probably shut the site down if it had not been saved by DFX Partners. I do the best I can to run the site in a fair way for all members. It's not a charity, I spend lots of time hunting and posting new Amiga/MorphOS & AROS news and have long term improvements in the works for the site. There is no way I would ever please 100% of those that come here. Some complain just to complain or in the hope that hurting Amiga.org will help their competing site. I'll continue to source new Amiga news and enhance the site as much as I can. I recently added a G+ page for Amiga.org that everyone loves. I'm an old time Amiga user that bought Amiga World Issue #1 and own Amiga's old generation and new.
If someone truly has the best interest in mind for Amiga.org they are welcome to PM me anytime with their suggestions.
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5 foods that face changes with trans-fat ban.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/11/08/5-foods-that-face-changes-with-trans-fat-ban/
The old saying "You are what you eat" is very true.
It baffles me the crap that people consume on a regular basis.
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Make no mistake and please understand in cgutjahr's world he hopes Amiga.org ceases to exist so he can promote his own Amiga news site. In our opinion this is why he is so critical of Amiga.org. He hopes and dreams to drive traffic to his own site. We hope we are wrong about this but that's what the tea leaves and contacting Orson Wells revealed. We still have to get a 2nd opinion from Alfred Hitchcock.
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Wayne no longer had any interest in the Amiga and would have probably shut the site down if it had not been saved by DFX Partners.
That's simply not true (again): The amiga.org community would have bought it - the amount people were willing to donate to that task had already reached close to 5000 USD.
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Make no mistake and please understand in cgutjahr's world he hopes Amiga.org ceases to exist so he can promote his own Amiga news site. In our opinion this is why he is so critical of Amiga.org. He hopes and dreams to drive traffic to his own site. We hope we are wrong about this but that's what the tea leaves and contacting Orson Wells revealed. We still have to get a 2nd opinion from Alfred Hitchcock.
I'm not sure cgutjahr would do this.
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I thought the elusive Tedd %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! "saved" this place not DFX?
edit: Why was Tedd's surname automatically changed? Very bizarre.
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Tedd
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I thought the elusive Tedd %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! "saved" this place not DFX?
edit: Why was Tedd's surname automatically changed? Very bizarre.
Tedd was part of DFX Partners.
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The more of us that leave the less people around to complain when the site gets sold to Butch Latina man-haters.
Why do they have to be butch and why do they need to hate men (as opposed to being incapable of loving them) ?
If Rebecca Linares is on the new Amiga.org I would definitely view the site...even by accident lol
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If Rebecca Linares is on the new Amiga.org I would definitely view the site...even by accident lol
...Googles Rebecca Linares... too bad this site didn't turn her name directly into a link! :insane:
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i'm sad to see trans fat phased out :(
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News from the Washington Post
Why is this type of news on Amiga.org? DFX the owner of Amiga.org has an unreleased underground kult film exposing the dangers of Trans Fats. Trans Fat is a Killer in your food. Amiga's were used in the production of the unavailable film.
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"The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday took steps toward eliminating trans fats in food products, all but ensuring that the artery-clogging ingredient gradually will vanish from the U.S. food supply.
A common ingredient in processed foods such as frozen pizzas, frostings, microwave popcorn and coffee creamers, trans fats have increasingly disappeared from grocery stores and restaurant menus in recent years amid widespread agreement about the risks they pose to public health.
New York and other cities have imposed bans on the substance, and in 2006 the FDA began requiring food manufacturers to print details about trans fats on nutritional labels. Those efforts appear to have put a significant dent in the consumption of trans fats. According to the FDA, intake among Americans declined from 4.6 grams per day in 2003 to about one gram per day last year.
But Thursday’s announcement was a move toward eliminating their use altogether."
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Read more
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trans-fats-to-be-phased-out-fda-says/2013/11/07/80cfc8be-47c4-11e3-a196-3544a03c2351_story.html
http://www.pinterest.com/cspinutrition/trans-fat-wall-of-shame/
http://www.oilchangemovie.com
For more information on what happened to Oil Change the movie please read the DiscreetFX interview in Amiga Future #101.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FWwAJomAks
http://www.amigafuture.de/kb.php?mode=article&k=4341
Hi,
Don't know about you all, but I just turned over my keyboard and found out why it was working so slow, it was filled with all kind of trans fats, I have enough laying on my desk to last for the next 10 years. HMMM, the last time I had jelly beans was Easter in 2006.
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i'm sad to see trans fat phased out :(
Trans fatty acids have been banned for quite a while in the EU I think so they would just use the EU version instead (just as sickly with excessive cinnamon like the US ones don't worry lol)
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@Amiga_Nut
The EU is smart.
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They're just silly in different ways I suspect :)
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i'm sad to see trans fat phased out :(
Oh no, you will have make a real Apple pie instead of buying the unhealthy McFrankenfood one.
:)
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Oh no, you will have make a real Apple pie instead of buying the unhealthy McFrankenfood one.
:)
Not just healthier, but also tastes a million times better :)
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That's simply not true (again): The amiga.org community would have bought it - the amount people were willing to donate to that task had already reached close to 5000 USD.
That's easy for you to say 4 years after the fact. But the truth remains the same. Tedd was the only one that put real $ on the table to acquire the site. Anyone could have outbid him but no one did or even came close. Even the spanish lesbians showed no interest in 2009. Talk is cheap, dollars are real.
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That's easy for you to say 4 years after the fact. But the truth remains the same. Tedd was the only one that put real $ on the table to acquire the site. Anyone could have outbid him but no one did or even came close. Even the spanish lesbians showed no interest in 2009. Talk is cheap, dollars are real.
If many people fund one item controlling it usually leads to disputes I find.
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@Amiga_Nut
You are right. Even if they would have been able to raise enough money it would have be chaos and you would have seen the site pulled in a million directions. It would have been very messy.
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Not just healthier, but also tastes a million times better :)
No way. I disagree. The current baked apple pie is awful.
The original deep fried one was awesome.
Way better than any kind of homemade apple pie unless you made your homemade one into a little pocket which you then proceeded to deep fry.
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That's easy for you to say 4 years after the fact.
Actually, it's all neatly documented:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=520183&postcount=4
Talk is cheap, dollars are real.
Your claim was that a.org would have died if "Tedd" wouldn't have put money on the table. That's bullcrap, obviously - see above link.
It's dying now. A very slow and painfull death.
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Actually, it's all neatly documented:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=520183&postcount=4
Your claim was that a.org would have died if "Tedd" wouldn't have put money on the table. That's bullcrap, obviously - see above link.
I cgutjahr want Amiga.org to die now. A very slow and painfull death so I can promote my own Amiga news site.
I updated your grammar mistakes to make them more accurate.
:)
The link you posted in your message does not show enough money to buy the site. The price was much higher than that back in 2009. Also keep in mind a pledge is not the same thing as real money. You are welcome to try and organize another Amiga.org buyout if it makes you comfortable. I seriously doubt you would be able to come up with enough community funds to try and buy it a 2nd time because the site is more valuable now than it was in 2009.
Again, if you truly want to help you can PM me your site suggestions or recommendations to improve Amiga.org. Unlike many other forums site owners on the internet I am actually available and listen to member feedback if they don't have an alternative agenda. I know it's a PM you will never send me but I'm willing to entertain the idea that maybe you will change your mind and want to help the oldest and one of the largest Amiga sites on the internet. Of course there are other great Amiga sites too, EAB (http://eab.abime.net/) comes to mind.
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http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/14947167/286295948/name/NUTRITION%20sat%20fat.pdf
So much for the trans fat hype.
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Dammy, that article seems to be about saturated fats not trans fats.
Anyway this thread is confusing. Why is everyones name turning blue? And why is the owner acting strange?
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Again, if you truly want to help you can PM me your site suggestions or recommendations to improve Amiga.org. Unlike many other forums site owners on the internet I am actually available and listen to member feedback if they don't have an alternative agenda.
Will you actually listen to it? What about all the member feedback that has been left in these threads so far? If we reiterate it in PM format, will it actually have any effect?
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Will you actually listen to it? What about all the member feedback that has been left in these threads so far? If we reiterate it in PM format, will it actually have any effect?
Yes, the best way to communicate with me is via PM. It avoids all the noise of the forums and if you PM me it gets added to my long list of future site enhancements and improvements.
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http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/14947167/286295948/name/NUTRITION%20sat%20fat.pdf
So much for the trans fat hype.
Trans Fats and Saturated Fats are very different from each other. Saturated fats occur naturally in food. Trans Fats are man made processed garbage and should be avoided at all costs. They should be taken out of the food supply in the US just like Denmark and other countries in the EU did long ago.
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Trans Fats and Saturated Fats are very different from each other. Saturated fats occur naturally in food. Trans Fats are man made processed garbage and should be avoided at all costs. They should be taken out of the food supply in the US just like Denmark and other countries in the EU did long ago.
And what hard health data has come out since they banned it in Denmark? I'm all for eating healthy, but this trans fat seems to be more hype then reality. If the market doesn't want it, trans fat will be removed from the food supply, just like that unhealthy plastic is no longer available in the US because of consumer wishes.
Now if you want to talk about anti-oxidant foods, that's something most folks can sink their teeth into.
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@dammy
There is a ton of hard facts and data that show how unhealthy and dangerous Trans Fats are to the human heart and body. Seek and you shall find.
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You are welcome to try and organize another Amiga.org buyout if it makes you comfortable
I already asked you for a price (twice, I think).
Not sure Karlos is still here, so maybe we'd have to search for a new maintainer. But first we need a price tag.
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I already asked you for a price (twice, I think).
Not sure Karlos is still here, so maybe we'd have to search for a new maintainer. But first we need a price tag.
You can't afford it but since you're asking what are you willing to pay? Feel free to PM me the price if you're not comfortable making that public or if you don't care put it right in this thread. Just because I'm curious doesn't mean I'm willing to sell the site. It's not for sale and I'm not looking for buyers.
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Way better than any kind of homemade apple pie unless you made your homemade one into a little pocket which you then proceeded to deep fry.
Didn't say anything about home made.
Anyway, you're serious? You prefer some deep fried apple crap over a properly made apple pie from a good pastry shop? What's the world coming to :(
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Didn't say anything about home made.
Anyway, you're serious? You prefer some deep fried apple crap over a properly made apple pie from a good pastry shop? What's the world coming to :(
I'm a fit and healthy conscious person who eats healthy and is quite active. But as much as i don't want to i have to agree that deep fried stuff tastes better than home made foods. That's probably why there's an obesity epidemic. Trans fats taste good! :) :(
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You can't afford it but since you're asking what are you willing to pay? Feel free to PM me the price if you're not comfortable making that public or if you don't care put it right in this thread. Just because I'm curious doesn't mean I'm willing to sell the site. It's not for sale and I'm not looking for buyers.
What is your cash value for this site? That being how much would you sell it for? I know several people from Amiga.org and EAB who could be interested if there were an opportunity to buy it out.
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@Kesa
It's not for sale and I'm not looking for buyers.
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I'm a fit and healthy conscious person who eats healthy and is quite active. But as much as i don't want to i have to agree that deep fried stuff tastes better than home made foods. That's probably why there's an obesity epidemic. Trans fats taste good! :) :(
Why do people keep bringing up home made foods in relation to my post? I never said anything about home made foods. Also, home made says absolutely nothing about the quality of food.
Anyway, I beg to differ. Anyone who can cook well, can make food that tastes far better than any deep fried food. I certainly don't prefer well made food over deep fried. And I most certainly can't agree with some MCJunk deep fried apple crap tasting better than a well made apple pie from a good pastry shop. The taste is simply not comparable in any way what so ever.
Junk food vs properly prepared 'real' food? Absolutely no contest :p Preferring deep fried is just bad taste :p
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@Thorham
I agree with you. Also one point many people don't realize is that Trans Fat has no taste benefit at all. Something does not taste better because Trans Fat is used. This is a myth spread by the companies in the processed food industry. They spread this myth because using Trans Fat saves them a ton of money in manufacturing costs. Also, using Trans Fat extends the shelf life of the food, it lasts a lot longer before you have to throw it out. Not a problem for me, if I find something with Trans Fat in my household I throw it out immediately or if the person that bought it still has the receipt I make them return it or I'll return it. Trans Fat is slow poison plain and simple. I recommend no one eat any of it. If you want an occasional cookie eat a cookie, just get one not made with Trans Fat.