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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: NovaCoder on November 05, 2013, 04:48:22 AM
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Now that I finally have my Indy Mrk2 displaying in full screen I've done a couple of videos of 060 demos today.
I'll update this post after each one has uploaded.
[youtube]CCixMZwLzmc[/youtube]
[youtube]-YpHcLMN6IM[/youtube]
[youtube]-Uw87HFarwA[/youtube]
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Very tidy.
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Now that I finally have my Indy Mrk2 displaying in full screen I've done a couple of videos of 060 demos today.
I'll update this post after each one has uploaded.
love demo's on our classics Nova! how did you setup the IndiMK2 to get full screen? I've got the MK2cr but it's hit & miss.
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If you haven't already, watch Jesus Christ Motocross by Nature & Traktor. Excellent demo!
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love demo's on our classics Nova! how did you setup the IndiMK2 to get full screen? I've got the MK2cr but it's hit & miss.
Hiya,
Yep demos rock :)
You need my config, just load it right up in the Config editor :)
Just make sure you're running the latest Config tool and the latest cores (firmware).
Jesus Christ is a great demo (visuals) but I hate the music.
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Nice vids, makes me want an 060, but that'll be a long wait. Any chance you can feed the audio into your camera directly? It sounds a bit distorted
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Nice vids, makes me want an 060, but that'll be a long wait. Any chance you can feed the audio into your camera directly? It sounds a bit distorted
I was wondering...if the A1200 with 68060 say...can produce such great demo effects here is couple of questions that comes to my mind:
1) Why not future games developed for the Amiga system classic have game introduction, ending and in-game video using the demo style to produce quality cut scenes for introduction cut scene, in game cut scene and ending cut scene that match bar with quality cut scene produced by PS 1 or even P2?
2) Be able to make an entire, interactive game, 3D quality game that match that of PS 1 or PS 2 using the demo system. As such we may have say half-life, counterstrike like games, 3D and everything run on a 68k based Amiga using AGA custom chipset. Do not tell me it cannot be done! If it can run demos like that...it can be done! Heck...we can even have light shading, weather effect, night/day effect, and even have online support on those FPS games with a story and plot line.
3) Please do not tell me that I should do it....if I opened the topic..believe me...I am learning programming..now I am starting with simple games such as Dot, tic-tac-toe, etc...and hopefully growing bigger to making simple platform game, scroll screening, and going up to more complex game. I am say level 0, gaining experience in hopes to be level 1000 for example...so...I am at least putting the effort to learn the ropes and make games. But I am saying for those already like level 700 or level 800 in programming language and making games for Amiga classic and even the people who are actually doing the demos...why not join forces and make new Amiga games that push the hardway BEYOND the limit of it's capacity.
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@AmigaClassicRule
I'm kicking around the idea of doing some chipset-specific effects but then putting them in shared libraries as AROS 68k extensions and coming out with RTG equivalents for cross compatibility using brute-force techniques. I don't have the manpower to accomplish all of my goals though. Would you mind helping me out?
Here are some of my project goals:
sprites.library: A library that will stack sprites horizontally and vertically to make bigger sprites. Also planned is interlace support for the sprite hardware via custom Copper-list generation.
tiles.library: A library that implements the tile-scrolling effect in such a way that it will integrate with the OS using custom viewport generation. This is based on the algorithm of ScrollingTrick on Aminet.
copperfx.library: A library that will replace the MrgCop subroutine in graphics.library with something more robust. Among the effects needed are changing bitplanes while the screen display is using them. There will need to be a different version of this library for each chipset speed as a result of timing differences. It will supply needed support for the first two libraries.
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@AmigaClassicRule
I'm kicking around the idea of doing some chipset-specific effects but then putting them in shared libraries as AROS 68k extensions and coming out with RTG equivalents for cross compatibility using brute-force techniques. I don't have the manpower to accomplish all of my goals though. Would you mind helping me out?
Here are some of my project goals:
sprites.library: A library that will stack sprites horizontally and vertically to make bigger sprites. Also planned is interlace support for the sprite hardware via custom Copper-list generation.
tiles.library: A library that implements the tile-scrolling effect in such a way that it will integrate with the OS using custom viewport generation. This is based on the algorithm of ScrollingTrick on Aminet.
copperfx.library: A library that will replace the MrgCop subroutine in graphics.library with something more robust. Among the effects needed are changing bitplanes while the screen display is using them. There will need to be a different version of this library for each chipset speed as a result of timing differences. It will supply needed support for the first two libraries.
Sorry...I am level 0 in programming...I need to start from ground zero and make a tic tac toe game and going all the way up...I have not managed to do a successfull dot game on AMOS yet...so I am thinking of migrating the game development to BlitzBasic. If I can finish my first project Dot on Blitz Basic 2...then I can go to my next project until I make very complex games...maybe in the future....I will be of help for you. But I need to release enormous quantity of projects to the community such as enormous quantities of new games and applications before I am confident enough to tackle any advanced programming level skills on library and doing complex algorithm and tricks and chipsets and sprites.
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@ NovaCoder
thanks for the config! will try out once my Viper 060 conversion is complete and back into my 1200;)
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thanks for the config nova i'm sure it will help many..
here are some of my fav 060 demos
1. Hotstyle Takeover
2. RELIC
3. GBG
4. anything MAWI
5. anything TBL
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cut scene that match bar with quality cut scene produced by PS 1 or even P2?
Technically it's possible, most cut scenes on PS1 and PS2 were just plain pre-rendered videos. But someone would need to make said animations.
Do not tell me it cannot be done! If it can run demos like that...it can be done! Heck...we can even have light shading, weather effect, night/day effect, and even have online support on those FPS games with a story and plot line.
Making a game is way more complex task compared to making a demo. And the low framerate most of the 060/AGA demos run in wouldn't really be suitable for a game.
3) Please do not tell me that I should do it....
Please do not tell anyone else to do something if you're not prepared to do anything yourself ;)
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@ NovaCoder
thanks for the config! will try out once my Viper 060 conversion is complete and back into my 1200;)
oh damn:rant: tonight I decided to try out your config on my MK2cr & after loading your prefs file in the config editor (v1.2), my 1200 rebooted and now all i can get is a black screen ?? was working great but didn't fil the full screen on my flat screen. Please tell me I can reflash the Indi somehow:nervous:
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Just coz of Novacoders post, I decided to try my Indivision MKII after I shelved it for about 1 year due to no configtool available and display misaligned to the left..
OMG! Life is good at the moment in WB under 1024x768 now :)
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@ darkage
glad it works for you. I didn't have the problems of beign off centred like you but wanted to use my full screen but alas something went wrong & i actually think I installed Nova's config from my USB drive & forgot to install it on my HD0...the card flashed and my 1200 booted without allowing me to save the config etc....now black screen only:mad:
@ all IndiAGA owners
anyone else have this black screen problem after loading new config? how can I reset it ?
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klx30oor
U didnt save your original config file? Just put that back.
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klx30oor
U didnt save your original config file? Just put that back.
nope but that's no problem as I can always flash it with default settigns as it worked right out of the box for me. Question is how do i get it to boot up without a black screen?? I could dig out one of my 1080's but can I load up the default config without the InidAGA installed? hmm guess it's time to find out
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BUMP.
before I dig out my 1080 (which is buried behind tons of junk..er stuff) anyone had this black screen problem after flashing/ loading new config file ??
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Hiya,
A couple of people have got a black screen after a config change, don't worry it's not a big deal.
All you need to do is hook it up to your TV over composite cable, that should get you into WB where you can play around with the Indivision's Config settings.
If you WB is currently set to use a mode that cannot be displayed via composite (eg you have it set to HighGFX), then boot it with a WB disk to go to PAL mode and then move the HighGFX monitor driver out of 'DEVS/MONITORS' and into storage. When you reboot your system will swap to the default PAL mode (because the HighGFX monitor driver is missing).
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@ NovaCoder
well had to dig out my 1080 from storage but after booting up to WB and reinstalling the default PAL config all is back to normal :)..now to try again to install your config...