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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: kickstart on September 24, 2013, 09:23:12 PM

Title: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: kickstart on September 24, 2013, 09:23:12 PM
At this times, whats the most usable/stable OS for the raspberry pi?

AROS have any native version?
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: commodorejohn on September 24, 2013, 09:38:10 PM
RISC OS on the Pi is pretty good. A lot lighter than Debian.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: Rebel-CD32 on September 24, 2013, 10:36:33 PM
I'm curious, has there been any extra development or an influx of new programmers and applications on RiscOS since it's been running on the Pi? I still love the idea of running all my favourite classic applications and games on one when I finally get a Pi, but it'd be cool if there's been some new development too. It'd bode well for Aros I suppose, once it's running native with any luck it'll attract a few of the hobbiests to give it a go and want to give something back.

So I take it at the moment it's pretty much just Linux and RiscOS to choose from on the Pi, with Aros still needing to be hosted on Linux (for now)? I wonder if there have been any attempts to port any other open source OSs like Haiku to the Pi.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: commodorejohn on September 24, 2013, 11:25:46 PM
There's definitely been some modern development since it supports USB and has a port of NetSurf. I don't know how much is due to the Pi and how much is just due to the efforts of the RISC OS Open community.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: bloodline on September 25, 2013, 01:57:46 AM
Quote from: Rebel-CD32;748726
I'm curious, has there been any extra development or an influx of new programmers and applications on RiscOS since it's been running on the Pi? I still love the idea of running all my favourite classic applications and games on one when I finally get a Pi, but it'd be cool if there's been some new development too. It'd bode well for Aros I suppose, once it's running native with any luck it'll attract a few of the hobbiests to give it a go and want to give something back.

So I take it at the moment it's pretty much just Linux and RiscOS to choose from on the Pi, with Aros still needing to be hosted on Linux (for now)? I wonder if there have been any attempts to port any other open source OSs like Haiku to the Pi.
I have a dislike of RISCOS that goes right back to my school days... I think most British people my age will agree... It hasn't improved with age ;)

There is a native port of AROS for the pi by Kalamatee, but it is missing a complete USB driver... So no mouse or keyboard input yet... Fingers crossed, Kalamatee will have a go at getting that to work in the not too distant future.

Right now linux works just fine on the pi, but X is a bit heavy for the CPU... It really needs an OpenGL ES based display system.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: persia on September 25, 2013, 03:49:26 AM
So has it succeeded in it's goal of raising up a new generation of British programmers?
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: commodorejohn on September 25, 2013, 04:28:23 AM
I don't know. You might want to check back in a generation.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: chris on November 25, 2013, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;748729
There's definitely been some modern development since it supports USB and has a port of NetSurf.


I'm a bit late responding to this, but RISC OS is the platform NetSurf was written for.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: commodorejohn on November 25, 2013, 05:29:48 PM
Ah. Duly noted.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: pVC on November 25, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
This (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=71572) is quite interesting project...

And if you're going to buy Raspberry Pi, Vesalia (http://www.vesalia.de) has nice selection of them, if you want to support Amiga reseller.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: whabang on November 25, 2013, 08:02:48 PM
It really depends on what you want to do with it. Raspbian can be fairly neat once you clean out the bloat. On the other hand, I only use mine as an email server.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: nicholas on November 25, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
Quote from: pVC;753404
This (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=71572) is quite interesting project...
 (http://www.vesalia.de)

Now that is indeed a very interesting project and a perfect example of why EAB is probably the best forum around for 68k stuff these days.

I've got an HxC emulator but I'm definitely going to try out using my Pi for this.  It beats using it just for OpenElec for getting my geek on. :)
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: nicholas on November 25, 2013, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: bloodline;748737
I have a dislike of RISCOS that goes right back to my school days... I think most British people my age will agree... It hasn't improved with age ;)

There is a native port of AROS for the pi by Kalamatee, but it is missing a complete USB driver... So no mouse or keyboard input yet... Fingers crossed, Kalamatee will have a go at getting that to work in the not too distant future.

Right now linux works just fine on the pi, but X is a bit heavy for the CPU... It really needs an OpenGL ES based display system.

I'm eagerly awaiting a nice slice of ARIX Pi for my dinner. :D
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: pVC on November 26, 2013, 07:08:52 AM
Quote from: whabang;753405
It really depends on what you want to do with it. Raspbian can be fairly neat once you clean out the bloat. On the other hand, I only use mine as an email server.


I'm using one of those 3rd party minimal Raspbian installations and I'm building my server over it. Too bad Raspberrys can be unreliable with SD cards, so I wouldn't use it for lots of writes and too important stuff... unless you have external HD to store stuff, it might be better.

I planned to use my 16GB class 10 card for server, but it has got corrupted few times already. Smaller class 2 and 4 cards seem to be more reliable... so I ordered 32GB class 4 card and will see if it would work better.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: nicholas on November 26, 2013, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: pVC;753449
I'm using one of those 3rd party minimal Raspbian installations and I'm building my server over it. Too bad Raspberrys can be unreliable with SD cards, so I wouldn't use it for lots of writes and too important stuff... unless you have external HD to store stuff, it might be better.

I planned to use my 16GB class 10 card for server, but it has got corrupted few times already. Smaller class 2 and 4 cards seem to be more reliable... so I ordered 32GB class 4 card and will see if it would work better.


Try:

Code: [Select]
sudo fstrim -v /
Then add noatime, nodiratime, discard to the mount options of your sdcard in /etc/fstab
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: Linde on November 26, 2013, 07:08:37 PM
Quote from: whabang;753405
It really depends on what you want to do with it. Raspbian can be fairly neat once you clean out the bloat. On the other hand, I only use mine as an email server.


I suggest that instead of cleaning out the bloat, you start from the installer (http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller) instead of using a preinstalled image. This way you can just not install the whole graphical desktop category of packages. The only hassle I had was that I had to replace some of the included boot firmware blobs to ones that support model B to get the installer to boot.

I've been using one as a server with Arch Linux, which has always been a hassle to maintain, and I switched to Raspbian as soon as I found out that you can shrink it down in the installer.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: Dr. Chef on November 27, 2013, 03:51:31 AM
RISC OS is a decent OS. It might not have a gigantic array of software, but the desktop is easy to use. It's also fast compared to Raspbian.
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: pVC on November 27, 2013, 06:59:59 AM
Quote from: Linde;753485
I suggest that instead of cleaning out the bloat, you start from the installer (http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller) instead of using a preinstalled image. This way you can just not install the whole graphical desktop category of packages. The only hassle I had was that I had to replace some of the included boot firmware blobs to ones that support model B to get the installer to boot.

I just can't understand why they still haven't fixed the installer to work with 512M model, which has been the most popular version for a while now. This is that hyped and sold platform that you shouldn't need this much hacking to get something working...
Title: Re: raspberry pi OSes
Post by: commodorejohn on November 27, 2013, 08:34:29 AM
It's Linux, you wind up having to hack it no matter how "user-friendly" it's claimed to be...