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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: blakespot on September 04, 2013, 10:37:23 PM

Title: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: blakespot on September 04, 2013, 10:37:23 PM

I'm correct in the notion that a commodore 1010 drive can be opened opened up and used to replace the (faulty) internal drive of an Amiga 1000, correct?

Thanks.




bp

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: shaf on September 05, 2013, 12:08:59 AM

Yes they are the same drive mechanism.

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: blakespot on September 05, 2013, 09:04:21 PM

Sigh...

Ok, got this ext 1010 and tested it out. Writes, reads fine, disks can be passed around to the other Amiga, etc. Clean unit.

I opened it up, removed the mechanism, swapped it into my Amiga 1000 as its internal drive, wired it up, and now when I boot I get a frozen white screen. I tried reversing the floppy cable, no dice. Power only will fit one way, and it does fit.

If I re-wire the old drive (which I am replacing as it has a write protect issue), I get the KickStart disk prompt as per normal.

I see no jumpers on this 1010 drive that I have put in the A1000.

Orig drive was Matsu*?#@**?#@**?#@**?#@*a. New drive says Newtronics.

Any ideas? Thanks...




bp

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: blakespot on September 06, 2013, 02:14:34 AM

Nothing is easy. Fuuuuu.



bp

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: save2600 on September 06, 2013, 02:59:53 AM

Absolutely sure there's not a pin on the drive that got broken or bent out of shape? Does it still work if you replace it inside the A1010?

Assuming the ribbon cable/pins are good, what happens if you leave the power cable disconnected?

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: blakespot on September 06, 2013, 08:11:02 AM

If I leave the lower cable disconnected -- or the power AND data cable disconnected, Amiga never get last white screen. No KS prompt. No bent pins on drive or mo board side of data cable.



bp

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: motrucker on September 06, 2013, 02:49:21 PM

You have luck like I do.... I am not used to seeing Newtronics drives in the 1010. The vast majority ad Matsu*?#@**?#@**?#@**?#@*a units.
Are you 100% sure it works as an external unit? If it does, then there must be a jumper some where on the drive (maybe a solder pad?)
I can not track down any serious info on the Newtronics drive. Wish I could some real help....

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: shaf on September 06, 2013, 02:57:13 PM

Is there a part number on the drive. I have data on all the Panasonic (Matsustita) and Chinon FDD's.

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: blakespot on September 06, 2013, 03:26:48 PM

This is the Newtronics drive that came out of the 1010 enclosure:

(Looks like a PC floppy drive... https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=newtronics+d357k&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 )

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 06, 2013, 08:03:30 PM

Hey @blakespot -

Are you coming to the meetup on the 17th?  I somehow seem to have acquired five Amiga drives that I don't need, one of which is a 1010.  If you haven't solved it by then (I was thinking it might be a jumper or solder pad, also) I bet we could find something that works.  If I have time before then I'll pull my 1010 apart and see what kind of mechanism it has inside it.  :)

Title: Re: Amiga 1010 as a swap-in for A1000 internal floppy?
Post by: motrucker on September 06, 2013, 09:59:58 PM

any one else noticing the garbage whenever we try to type in Matsu*?#@**?#@**?#@**?#@*a?
Wonder why - Anti Japanese server :).