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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: AmiDelf on February 06, 2004, 01:21:33 AM
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Update on: Amiga-project:
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Why cant people really undestand, that this is a project aiming at our Amiga community.
I wish it to grow and "some" goes as far as spreading false rumours about our projects.
Our Amiga Project, will be the leading project, following by Opera. Its aim is to build a new Amiga tougether with those wich wants to help out. Yes, this new Amiga will be created, designed and formed by us. It will just take some time to create a team and a place to discuss this. It will also take time to create a prototype.
A Q&A section will apear this weekend on our website. Giving rumour spreaders something to think about. I am not letting rumour spreaders destroying this project at all.
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Update on Opera project:
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This project is now going on again. A bit delayed because of fever and such. Next week, amigaworld.org will give you updates. What it is, we cannot say, but we hope that you will like it.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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Go for it! :-)
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I'm expecting great things from you!
Good luck and May The Force Be With You!!
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I'm all for a new Amiga project as long as its not just another clone to run OS3.9 on. I think its time to move on to new and bigger things. If your projects goal is to get Os4.X and even MOS to run on the hardware then thats a totaly diffrent matter. I think that SHOULD be your goal in this. Once OS4 comes out I dont think many people will care much about 3.9 machines.
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@Acill
Youre welcome to join this team. You've been a helper for creating good articles for Amitopia and more. I will get in PM with you later on.
This new Amiga's aim is to be created by the community. Many, and I know many dont like what Amiga INC or Pegasos does. But they simply dont want to be talked about and screamed to.
ESCOM had great Amiga plans, with AmigaPPC as the next generation Amigas. This new Amiga will give programers what they want, it will give Amigans wich loved Amiga back then also a alternative.
Many knows that Amiga was the entertainer nr.1 in early 90's. Its also now, but more and more games uses more and more complicated Joysticks. I dont say its bad, but most was really happy with what ZipStick offered and more.
This new Amiga will not have any Catweasel or any external card for Amiga Joysticks or mouse. It will have USB also though, for people wich wants to use "todays" mouse and other goodies thru PoseidonUSB stack. Yes, this project aims at AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS.
(http://www.amigaworld.org/project/ZipStik.gif)
Project update #2 - 06.02.2004:
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Now at the moment, this project is forming a team:
- hardware designers
- people with contacts
- amiga promotional people
Our goal:
- create "mordern" Amiga keyboard (USA, UK, German and Norwegian atm) for USB
- getting ZipStick back in production (small amount that is. Depends on how many is interested)
- crating a new Amiga in the end. Getting hardware designers tougether (the specs is now choosen)
All updates will be found on: http://www.amigaworld.org
All parts of the project might not be done, but then atleast. Its been tried and we will go as many steps before giving up.
Have a nice weekend!
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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Yes, this project aims at AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS.
What about AROS? if it's a community designed and built Computer... then it makes sense to use a Community designed and built OS?
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Just got an idea!
What about an Amiga Floppy adapter for USB?
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@bloodline:
What is new in AROS lately? The aros homepage dont give much clues whats really going on :-)
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restore2003 wrote:
@bloodline:
What is new in AROS lately? The aros homepage dont give much clues whats really going on :-)
There will be an update soon :-)
Michal has just finished work on our new PCI sub system, it's being debugged as we speak, and Nic has got the CPU detection routines working (with an dea to getting Multiple CPU support working).
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Hi,
The ZipStick. :-) Got one at home. The joysticks were always great. When I tried another system the first thing I noticed is the crappy joysticks.
I have a small remark on some earlier sayings. There was said that "negative" comments will not be taking serious. I think we are talking about "trolling" and such, right? I mean of someone said that it is not wise to go that way and provide the info why, it's taken into the project. Ofcourse I am talking about "good" critisism. I just saw a lot of postings that said any slighty negative words will not be taken serious.
Anyway, I like the project. I like any attempt to do such thing. Same goes for Downix, he is doing some hardware thingies himself. Oli, and everyone else who is doing such things. I admire that. That's what it's all about. :-)
Coder
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by Neo on 2004/2/6 15:45:07
Just got an idea!
What about an Amiga Floppy adapter for USB?
Its a nice one. But its not our main priority to do so right now, but if there is more people out there wanting it. It could be a possibility.
Your idea is not deleted at all. Maybe some of the projects hardware designers is interested in it. Who knows.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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@bloodline:
How will AROS support modern graphic cards like radeon etc etc? Will there be a special graphic.library that takes advantage of them? for enhancing gui and stuff
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by Coder on 2004/2/6 15:52:23
There is lots of people from amiga.org wich is into our project. The team will be presented for the first time on Monday. More people is offcourse welcome.
Youre also warm welcome offcourse. I am a bit nervous for Monday, since I am going to a company wich I havent been into and promote Amiga and invite them to a Amiga show near here in April and more.
I will offcourse notice people what came out of it all, and more..
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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@AmiDelf
Slaaging down critics just isn't a wise idea, aslong as you haven't got a bit
more specific (which is IMO the biggest point of critic ATM).
1. Who is actually gone make this (and announcing it before you got that cleared
would make it look like just another iWin).
2. Who (how many) do you think will buy it, and what will be the price of the fish ?
3. What will it actually offer over an Amithlon/Pegasos or A1-based system ?
4. Where is the money comming from (and you will needs lots of it if you want
to be taken serious by companies making GFX-chips,CPUs, Northbridges and OSes).
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@AmiDelf
The team will be presented for the first time on Monday. More people is offcourse welcome.
Cool. Looking forward to see who's the team.
am a bit nervous for Monday, since I am going to a company wich I havent been into and promote Amiga and invite them to a Amiga show near here in April and more.
That's really something! I had no idea it was this far already. I did check your site some days ago but only a small intro on it was there. So I only got from it what I could read here. But like you said, the site will be containing all the info. That's good. And so far everything is looking good. At least your out there and trying. :-)
Coder
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@restore
Not being an AROS-expert, but after some initila looks I can tell you this:
They do have an intregrated gfx/cybergfx-lib similar to the one used in MOS
(no need for Pen-based pains for example), and a modular concept for
lowlevel-drivers (Hidds).
They also have Zune (MUI-clone), and I think they now started useing the enhanced
MOS-Intuition which was feeded back into their CVS.
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restore2003 wrote:
@bloodline:
How will AROS support modern graphic cards like radeon etc etc? Will there be a special graphic.library that takes advantage of them? for enhancing gui and stuff
The graphics.library and the cybergraphics.library both go through the graphics.hidd which provides support for modern graphics capabilitys including hardware accelleration for both of the original systems :-o
We already support 16bit and 32bit displays as you can see from the website and if you try the disk/CD
GUI enhancements will come from Zune :-)
-Edit- hahah, Kronos beat me to it :-D
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@bloodline:
Sounds good! :-) How safe will it be to have two operating systems on a boot partition? if i want both aros and please forgive me......windows xp ;-)
btw.... i can contribute with replacement kits for zune if your interrested? gadgets and buttons
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restore2003 wrote:
@bloodline:
Sounds good! :-) How safe will it be to have two operating systems on a boot partition? if i want both aros and please forgive me......windows xp ;-)
That would be fine the boot loader we use is Grub wich can boot either Windows or AROS (and Linux too). The only problem is that at the moment AROS lke to have the drive to itself, and will eliminate any other OS on that drive... this will be improved later. But for now I suggest you use a spare drive for AROS :-)
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@Kronos:
Don't get your hopes up too much. AmiDelf does not seem to answer even constructively critical questions. Which is very unfortunate, I should add---if he has indeed thought of Someting Big, then it should be very easy to quell our doubts, never mind getting funds and manpower to succesfully complete the project. Perhaps he's still brooding on the details, but from what I've seen, I will not be holding my breath.
On a side note, you will probably enjoy rereading your reply to Shiva in this thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4850). Scroll all the way down to the before-last post. I'm sure you'll agree with me that right now, this 'Amiga Project' has all the markings to follow your 6-point plan to the letter.
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Hi AmiDelf,
i like your enthusiasm and I admire it, but what makes you think that the Oliver Day's project has failed? (i've just read it on your site)
Is there something that we don't know.
Ciao
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by Framiga on 2004/2/6 17:07:44
Hi AmiDelf,
i like your enthusiasm and I admire it, but what makes you think that the Oliver Day's project has failed? (i've just read it on your site)
Is there something that we don't know.
Ciao
Well. Haven't heard from him in a long time, but maybe something happends. I wish him all the best offcourse. All projects is risks. Either they work or they collapse.
Webpage is now under construction. I think it will be on-line on Sunday.
Look here:
http://www.amigaworld.org/project/AmigaWorldCT_2.jpg
Thats project name and will be here. This is the AmigaWorld, creative team project. Its aim to interract Amiga users, let us show the world and others that we are strong tougether. If we can atleast get out new ZipSticks and new Amiga keyboards. That will be great.
Offcourse, the project can exstend and do other great things. Its all about what the community wants. Creating something tougether, showing companies that were a active computer community.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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Hi AmiDelf,
those statement on your site who claims:
"Oliver is known for doing ColdFire CPU board for all Amigas, but has failed. Maybe a link could be created here?"
has scared me (for a couple of seconds).
Just contacted Oliver and FYI, ColdFusion project is UP and running.
Ciao
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@Framiga
Yeah, as much as I have my doubt about Oli and his CF, he atleast seems to
know what he is doing .....
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Oliver's website also confirms that the project is well on track. :-)
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by Framiga on 2004/2/6 19:04:21
Hi AmiDelf,
those statement on your site who claims:
"Oliver is known for doing ColdFire CPU board for all Amigas, but has failed. Maybe a link could be created here?"
has scared me (for a couple of seconds).
Just contacted Oliver and FYI, ColdFusion project is UP and running.
Ciao
Sorry. I will remoove it then. Thanks for updating!
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The ZipStick. Got one at home. The joysticks were always great. When I tried another system the first thing I noticed is the crappy joysticks.
Definitely my favorite joystick also... I got one with my first amiga"a500" and it still works today :-D