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Title: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: Everblue on August 18, 2013, 04:42:00 PM
Acube are taunting "File No. 3" and it starts with an 'M'.

What could it be? New Minimig with AGA support?

http://www.acube-systems.biz
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: nicholas on August 18, 2013, 05:24:04 PM
Quote from: Everblue;745145
Acube are taunting "File No. 3" and it starts with an 'M'.

What could it be? New Minimig with AGA support?

http://www.acube-systems.biz


M for MorphOS perhaps?
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: Everblue on August 18, 2013, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: nicholas;745148
M for MorphOS perhaps?


Oh yeah... they had shown MorphOS running on the Sam460 sometime ago.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: giZmo350 on August 18, 2013, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: Everblue;745152
Oh yeah... they had shown MorphOS running on the Sam460 sometime ago.

Kinda doubt it will MOS as there seems to be a setback...

http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=8931&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&start=40
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: nicholas on August 18, 2013, 06:00:44 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;745156
Kinda doubt it will MOS as there seems to be a setback...

http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=8931&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&start=40


Yeah but ACube posted that cryptic clue a few months before Frank made those comments last week.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: AJCopland on August 18, 2013, 07:02:18 PM
MiST?
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: gunni on September 26, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
The teasing "File no. 3" now has some kind of schematic coming out of the envelope...
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: Iggy on September 26, 2013, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: Everblue;745145
Acube are taunting "File No. 3" and it starts with an 'M'.

What could it be? New Minimig with AGA support?

http://www.acube-systems.biz

If file no. 1 is the AmigaOne 500, what is file no. 2?

Whatever file no. 3 is, its a small board.

So, no, i don't think they would be refering to MorphOS.

And I have heard that Acube isn't contributing to the MorphOS port for the SAM460 anyway.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: commodorejohn on September 26, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
For the love of cake, ACube, nobody cares about pointless teasing. Just reveal your damn project already!
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: nicholas on September 26, 2013, 11:03:29 PM
Moana resurrected to counteract MorphOS on Macs perhaps?

I'd buy a copy if it were released.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: Iggy on September 27, 2013, 12:27:14 AM
Quote from: nicholas;748899
Moana resurrected to counteract MorphOS on Macs perhaps?

I'd buy a copy if it were released.

You're not thinking here Nik.
No way would Acube want to promote that idea.
It would cost them sales.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: esc on September 27, 2013, 01:24:23 AM
Quote from: nicholas;748899
Moana resurrected to counteract MorphOS on Macs perhaps?

I'd buy a copy if it were released.

Me three!  :)
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: nicholas on September 27, 2013, 01:41:54 AM
Quote from: Iggy;748906
You're not thinking here Nik.
No way would Acube want to promote that idea.
It would cost them sales.

Very true Jim.  One can dream though.  :)
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: NovaCoder on September 27, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
Maybe it's just me but I'm getting bored of these build-up excitement slowly marketing campaigns.

When they reveal the actual product it is is normally met with a large dose of Meh.

If they've done something new then awesome, show us what it is already.

I like the way that Jens does it:

1) Come up with an idea
2) Build a 'working' prototype
3) Announce the thing with some pictures
4) Get some feedback and tweak the design
5) Release the sucker

:)
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: Iggy on September 27, 2013, 02:10:30 AM
Quote from: nicholas;748914
Very true Jim.  One can dream though.  :)

True, and Hyperion's business model for OS4 is highly questionable.
Expensive, low performing hardware that makes old Apple hardware look good.
I don't get it.

Although I must admit, if I had the disposable income I might consider an A-eon system.

If we do move to an alternate ISA, I hope its something with common, low cost hardware.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: commodorejohn on September 27, 2013, 02:17:14 AM
Quote from: NovaCoder;748916
Maybe it's just me but I'm getting bored of these build-up excitement slowly marketing campaigns.

When they reveal the actual product it is is normally met with a large dose of Meh.

If they've done something new then awesome, show us what it is already.
Everybody worships at the altar of Hype these days. Moreover, none of them seem to know how to do hype competently...
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: nicholas on September 27, 2013, 08:10:49 AM
Quote from: NovaCoder;748916
Maybe it's just me but I'm getting bored of these build-up excitement slowly marketing campaigns.

When they reveal the actual product it is is normally met with a large dose of Meh.

If they've done something new then awesome, show us what it is already.

I like the way that Jens does it:

1) Come up with an idea
2) Build a 'working' prototype
3) Announce the thing with some pictures
4) Get some feedback and tweak the design
5) Release the sucker

:)

+1

That seems to be the most sensible way to run a business to me.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: nicholas on September 27, 2013, 08:49:11 AM
Quote from: Iggy;748918
True, and Hyperion's business model for OS4 is highly questionable.
Expensive, low performing hardware that makes old Apple hardware look good.
I don't get it.

Although I must admit, if I had the disposable income I might consider an A-eon system.

If we do move to an alternate ISA, I hope its something with common, low cost hardware.

Well their original mantra was that they could only release OS4 for official AmigaONE branded hardware thus preventing Moana from bring officially available.

Then they released it for SAM boards and the Pegasos II after the court case so there is no rational reason for Hyperion not to release a Mac version.

If that cost ACube and A-EON business then they should adapt or die.  That's what capitalism is about, competition and I'm sure Hyperion would make more money due to enlarging their market.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: OlafS3 on September 27, 2013, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: nicholas;748946
Well their original mantra was that they could only release OS4 for official AmigaONE branded hardware thus preventing Moana from bring officially available.

Then they released it for SAM boards and the Pegasos II after the court case so there is no rational reason for Hyperion not to release a Mac version.

If that cost ACube and A-EON business then they should adapt or die.  That's what capitalism is about, competition and I'm sure Hyperion would make more money due to enlarging their market.

Are you sure about that? Trevor has invested lots of money in this venture. If Hyperion does that they might get some sales but at the same time they propably lose Trevor as supporter (or at least risk that). And it is propably a strategical decision to have their partners and only sale it on new hardware.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 27, 2013, 09:19:42 AM
Quote from: NovaCoder;748916
Maybe it's just me but I'm getting bored of these build-up excitement slowly marketing campaigns.

When they reveal the actual product it is is normally met with a large dose of Meh.

If they've done something new then awesome, show us what it is already.

I like the way that Jens does it:

1) Come up with an idea
2) Build a 'working' prototype
3) Announce the thing with some pictures
4) Get some feedback and tweak the design
5) Release the sucker

:)


No it's obviously not just you, far from it, I think this "teasing" gives a childish impression and just pisses people off. Also risks building up anticipation that can easily turn into an anticlimax and kick back at you if what you later deliver won't match the hype you built up. So I agree on the steps you outlined above.

:)
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: yssing on September 27, 2013, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: nicholas;748946

Then they released it for SAM boards and the Pegasos II after the court case so there is no rational reason for Hyperion not to release a Mac version.
Other than time, which Hyperion does not have to much of, plus we really don't know what arrangements Hyperion have doen with their other clients.

@TMHGM I agree with you. I am also tired of this way of announcing new products.
Title: Re: Acube - new Minimig?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 27, 2013, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: nicholas;748946
Well their original mantra was that they could only release OS4 for official AmigaONE branded hardware thus preventing Moana from bring officially available.

Then they released it for SAM boards and the Pegasos II after the court case so there is no rational reason for Hyperion not to release a Mac version.

If that cost ACube and A-EON business then they should adapt or die.  That's what capitalism is about, competition and I'm sure Hyperion would make more money due to enlarging their market.


They released it for Sam and Peg2 before the settlement.

Anyway, I don't think Hyperion is making any money at all. It's impossible to imagine where the money would come from, given their business model of tying the OS to garage-level volume HW with SciFi price tags that is beaten by decade old mainstream Macs. The few hundreds of people who wants that and is actually prepared to pay the price for it and settle with OS4's features, performance and quality, well they already got it. So beyond those, where are the customers, where is the market? If they had made any money, they would have paid the developers who made OS4 in the first place (one would hope at least), instead of constantly picking up free replacement hobby developers from the shrinking fan base. And since they just continue down the same road instead of changing their ways, it doesn't really seem they *want* to make money, that they don't *want* to build a market and a future for OS4.

Regarding the topic, I think (and hope) that it's a new MiniMig with updated specs. First letter "M" fits as well, and so does the size of the PCB.

:)