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Operating System Specific Discussions => Amiga OS => Amiga OS -- Development => Topic started by: XDelusion on December 21, 2002, 09:57:22 PM
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http://www.yellowtab.com/history.php
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Cool. Nice to see that it may become a commercial product again. It had alot of potential.
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Only problem is, it didn't have much to say about their talks with Palm Inc. So BeOS is BeOS or now Zeta, or Yellow Tab, Yuck! :-o
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I seem to remember those pages been there years, and not much have happened. Ah well.. Just like this all new Amiga thingy we have been hoping to materialize. ;-)
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This is pretty much stagnant. I believe we'll see OS4 long before we see a new BeOS distibution. This is coming from an admitted BeOS fanboy, so.. take it for what you will.
Dammit, I just want a REAL desktop OS
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Go Hyperion.... :-D
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Go Hyperion, go hyperion, it's your birthday!
No wait, hang on Christmas is Jesus' birthday.
Ah, well Hyperion are close enough I suppose as long as this OS4 is as good as it looks! ;-)
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I believe there is some stipulation that says they can release a 5.1 or something. After that (6up) I don't think they have the legal right. I could be wrong on this.
Yeah the page has been there a while, but was updated pretty resently w/screenshots.
If they deliver AmigaOS4 on time I think they will beat yellowtab to the punch.
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I recon since it is Christmas ( Jesus B'day)
hyperion should get Os4 finished now.....
.........after all Jesus is waiting for his copy too :-D
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.........after all Jesus is waiting for his copy too :-D
HAHAHAHA :roflmao:
WWJB? (what would jesus boot?) AmigaOS!!
Satan uses MS :rtfm: Actually, bill gates may very well be the anti-christ.
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legion wrote:
Satan uses MS :rtfm: Actually, bill gates may very well be the anti-christ.
Click (http://www.toastytech.com/evil/index.html)
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I got that link from a recent post on Bebits.com, I think they intend to make a new release soon, there is supposed to be an on-line interview going on with them soon, so we'll know more.
BeOS is the ONLY other OS I have had few gripes about, Amiga was the other. I really hope this works out.
P.S. Christmas is not Jesus' birth day, infact historians are not shure when he was born exactly, This season is a farmer's and pagan's holiday, when certain pagans were converted to Christianity, the changed the meaning of the holidy, infact a TON of pagan rituals, traditions, and beliefs are the base for what we today call Christianity. Just remember all religions start out as a cult, it does not mean that it is %100 refelctive of the times or person(s) the cult is based on. Thank Rome for the mis-information, there government invented 85% of what we now know as Christianity.
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Beos was really good OS, but unfortunately not good enough to survive as X86 OS. Even though I wish it well (and I'd happy to use it on my PC if it would work on my current one) I really can't belive it having any commecrial success anymore.
But, perhaps miracles happen. And if BeOS ever become popular I'm happy :-)
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What I don't understand is how everyone favors Linux, and ignores stuff like BeOS. I'd rather see Be have the lime light, and linux be recognized as that powerful OS that needs to catch up with the rest. But for some reason Be is put in the background, granted the network code needs redone, and it need hardware acceleration, not to mention a few more drivers, but that is really about it, once that stuff it caught up, BeOS will be what Linux is still dreaming of. It has the Unix command line, and a working, easy to configure and use GUI, something that X will NEVER provide.
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What IMHO killed Beos was it's lack of X86 drivers.. too many tried to use it only to realize it does not work on their existing PC. So why bother to get new PC for marginal OS?
Linux has more users, more userbase and it's free. So it inspires more people to make more effort to support it. And with more support there will be more drivers and more computers where you can use it.
Personally, I have Linux installed to this PC but I don't like it enough to use it. I want Persoal-OS not some klunky Server-OS with some Gui-slammed atop of it.
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I fully agree about the Linux thing, everyone thinks that just because it is the first successful open source OS that it is king, but I am sure something more usable will come along. I hate X just as much as you, BeOS was much much more advanced, if only version 6 could have released before they sold to Palm, then we would have a better network backbone (to stop Linux nay sayers from bitching), as well as OpenGl support with Hardware acceleration.
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JoannaK wrote:
What IMHO killed Beos was it's lack of X86 drivers.. too many tried to use it only to realize it does not work on their existing PC.
IMHO what killed BeOS was mostly Be, Inc.'s impatience, or their investors' impatience, rather than any technical problem with the OS. There were pro audio apps in development when Be pulled the plug, for example. BeOS could have specified a subset of PC hardware that was supported and gone with that, for a vertical market niche that would have given them a big enough user base to survive. Then they could've expanded from there. They didn't need to support a wide range of equipment, necessarily. If people tried to use it without checking the supported hardware list first, then they shouldn't be too surprised when things didn't work right. Any alt OS is going to have hardware support problems, due to MS's domination. The best way to work around that, I think, is just indicate upfront what hardware will be supported (hopefully it's at the top of the range), and hope potential users will educate themselves about what works and what doesn't. This is the same situation for the AmigaOne, Pegasos, etc. regarding components, in spades, since the hardware requirements for these include even the new motherboard. Really, if limited hardware support is in fact what killed BeOS (which runs on standard x86 motherboards), then AOS and MOS don't stand a chance, do they?
Linux is surviving because there is no one company that owns it and has to make ends meet somehow, and because the mere fact that it's not Microsoft motivates a lot of users and developers. The fact that it's free and open is more important than the actual technology level, it seems, which isn't necessarily all that great compared to some of the alternatives (now or earlier). But that's still significant, especially when you read about things like the Linux-Windows struggle at NASA. Anyway, that's my opinion.
I think an alternative OS could make it today with a narrow range of hardware support, if it's got the right stuff. BeOS (or OpenBeOS), updated, could have that. I don't think AmigaOS4 does, by all indications. And MorphOS at this point is mostly speculation (regarding the Q Box). So time will tell.
-- gary_c
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I think an alternative OS could make it today with a narrow range of hardware support, if it's got the right stuff. BeOS (or OpenBeOS), updated, could have that. I don't think AmigaOS4 does, by all indications. And MorphOS at this point is mostly speculation (regarding the Q Box). So time will tell.
-- gary_c
I agree. However, OS4 will hopefully just be the first stage of a massive, long overdue overhaul. And the fact that developement is left to Hyperion, and that amiga already has a large (for a niche) userbase is what has me hopeful for the future. I personally don't think we'll see any serious development happening in the realm of BeOS or openBeOS, which is why I came back to the amiga community. At least Hyperion played it smart: they secured they're rights to develope even if Amiga goes under, so assuming we can drum up interest and support, amiga should survive.. at least for awhile. If they don't, there is always morphOS (yeah I know... but its better than MS or linux, and its being actively developed. Its a brand new OS, and hasn't had much time to mature, so I think it would be fair to at least give genesi a CHANCE to give us something. At least they have shown some sort of commitment to the community... all Amiga seems interested in are cell phones and PDA's)
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gary_c wrote:
J
I think an alternative OS could make it today with a narrow range of hardware support, if it's got the right stuff. BeOS (or OpenBeOS), updated, could have that. I don't think AmigaOS4 does, by all indications. And MorphOS at this point is mostly speculation (regarding the Q Box). So time will tell.
-- gary_c
BeOS has clear adwatateges like working Mozilla and Opera, allmost up-.to date softwares in many areas where Amiga goodies are years old. It's not been abandoned as long period AmigaOS has, so it has more capable coders.
About these other two.. Well... they are too young to be judged, but quite honestly OS4 has not shown much promise yet. Mos is much more interesting, at least at the moment...
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IMHO
personally, Im enjoying my SuSE experience, X4.2 and KDE3
just my 2 cents worth
(im not *yet* a `blind blonde cheerleader'<<<--(credit wayne) for RMS 'Stallman')
we'll see what YDL and the 970 have to offer
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It would be nice to see BeOS for the Pegasos/AmigaOnes/Teron boards...
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IMHO that 's good idea. Beos have many good programs that can't be expected to be ported anytime soon and it's really nice to use. And, I'm quite sure there are many BeOS people who would like to see some new computers to run their favorite OS on.
Technically adjusting PPC_Mac version to Aone/Pegasos shoudl not be too biggie operation (well.. don't ask me to do it anyhow) :-) But, in the end it all depends on how active people actually are tryig to push these things thru.