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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: arttu80 on August 11, 2013, 06:08:59 PM

Title: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: arttu80 on August 11, 2013, 06:08:59 PM
Hi everyone!

I need opinion for what would be the best way to connect old non-flickerfixer equipped Amiga to my everyday pc;

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/HP-TouchSmart-600-Review/?page=2

http://hothardware.com/articleimages/item1429/big_hp-touchsmart-600-left-side-view-compartment.jpg

The purpose for this, is that I like to tinker around with old hardware, but I need good screen for this. I don't want to drag my old RGB 1084S on the table, so I'm asking, what is my options with this?

I already managed to connect Amiga using A520mod to Video input port. Picture isn't as I prefer it to be. This machine have TV-antenna input, but regrettably no SCART.
I'm thinking, will these SCART-to-HDMI adapter boxes work?

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCART-to-HDMI-1080P-HD-Upscaler-Adapter-Converter-Economic-Box-/121137508584?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item1c345bb0e8

Or am I stuck with TV-mod?
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: amiman99 on August 11, 2013, 07:04:45 PM
You could get one of the RGB to Svideo converters, it should give you good picture quality. On the bottom of his page.
http://kipper2k.com/amigaforsale/
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: utri007 on August 11, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
Hyvä Arttu, osta Amigakitistä oikeanlainen SCART kaapeli ja kytke se ihan tavalliseen lituska TV:hen, saat hyvän välkkymättömän 640x512 kuvan.

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=226

(https://zjolha.blu.livefilestore.com/y2pyXU-Y0mPvvAJbVuh9VBIlvr_ZnbbgxFyR8vhUrmcOaRc3og_pzqSFmqo7bZigmG4lMSit_biQ1ZJvJisSc6ffrbQKSHXWvvsx_dMWT06hCcKGC-CmrGTtLcQ3d3E9Nri/WP_000400.jpg)

(https://zjolha.blu.livefilestore.com/y2pnABLHBwJNzoBvvvNtjaru1ThVJtmo_r5220oVdrWSVj5EPEvs5POJG-IPeyY8OMjEnKV6voFviGQfuc6hfFqVtM0iO28Y3fxYVlersUMmHLYK1EVsPWCKxyr3it4XE1F/WP_000433.jpg)

Jos kuva suhde on tärkeä, niin huutonetistä löytyy 20€ vanhoja LCD telkkoja joissa on oikea kuvasuhde.

Oikea kaapeli on tärkeä, vanhoissa kaapeleissa, kuten se millä olet käyttänyt tuota 1084s ei ole kaikkia tarpeellisia piuhoja kytkettynä. Olen testannut jonkun 6 telkkaa ja vain yksi ei ole toiminut, siinäkin se johtui siitä että siinä ei ollut oikeaa RGB scart liitäntää, vaan composiitti scart. HUOM. normisti noissa on vain 1 kpl oikeita RGB scart paikkoja, toinen on tuollainen mikä vaatisi vaikka tämän (http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8448/scartadapter.jpg) A500:ssa tuolla saa vain mustavalkoisen kuvan, mutta A1200:ssa sillä saa väri kuvan, kun piuhan kytkee siihen modulaattorin vieressä olevaan keltaiseen liittimeen. Tuolla tavalla kytkettynä kuvan laatu on huomattavsti heikompi kuin oikealla SCART piuhalla, mutta ko. adapeteri tulee vaikka nintendo Win mukana.
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Thorham on August 11, 2013, 08:38:28 PM
To utri007:

And now in English please, so everyone can read it? Thanks :)

Example of how annoying this kind of thing is:

Dit is een Nederlandse zin die de meeste mensen hier niet kunnen lezen.
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: utri007 on August 11, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
Quote from: Thorham;744351
To utri007:

And now in English please, so everyone can read it? Thanks :)

Example of how annoying this kind of thing is:

Dit is een Nederlandse zin die de meeste mensen hier niet kunnen lezen.


Thats why I add some pictures, to make it more confortable for non finnish speaking people ;)
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: hese7 on August 11, 2013, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: Thorham;744351
Dit is een Nederlandse zin die de meeste mensen hier niet kunnen lezen.

Although I haven't read Dutch, this resembled so much of German that this wasn't difficult to understand. ;)
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: zipper on August 11, 2013, 09:04:12 PM
Quote from: Thorham;744351
To utri007:

Dit is een Nederlandse zin die de meeste mensen hier niet kunnen lezen.


No problems with my school German. Een Oude, proost!
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Thorham on August 11, 2013, 10:16:37 PM
Quote from: utri007;744353
Thats why I add some pictures, to make it more confortable for non finnish speaking people ;)
That's very funny. But seriously. Someone has a problem and asks for a solution. The solution is now in a non-English language that most here can't read, making the answer useless to most people. Now when someone has a similar problem and they do a search, they'll find your thread, think 'Great!' only to find out it's in a language they can't read.

Post in English on an English forum. Not too much to ask, right? Or send a PM ;)

Quote from: hese7;744354
Although I haven't read Dutch, this resembled so much of German that this wasn't difficult to understand. ;)

Quote from: zipper;744358
No problems with my school German. Een Oude, proost!

You two aren't most people on the board :p
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Drummerboy on August 12, 2013, 02:36:02 AM
Yeah,

My native language is not English, but the forum is in English, and i can understand.

Its like i write en Español, donde posiblemente no todos puedan entender los que estoy escribiendo. Es un hecho que todos somos seguidores C= Commodore Amiga y eso es un solo idioma, pero hay ciertas cosas en las que si el foro es en Inglés, mejor respetar eso. :)

Regards!.
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Hessu on August 12, 2013, 03:09:42 AM
I had no problems with read finnish :p

Well, to be honest, it wasn't first time i see something else than english language here, but first time for me to see something written in finnish. So what's the point, no one heard anything about something like google translate or similar web pages?

Eihän se nyt niin vaikeaa ole :D
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: danbeaver on August 12, 2013, 04:30:40 AM
דיד שלם
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Thorham on August 12, 2013, 08:04:05 AM
Quote from: Hessu;744402
So what's the point, no one heard anything about something like google translate or similar web pages?
Shouldn't need that on an English page.
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Duce on August 12, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Sort of overblowing things regarding semantics about languages.

If the OP got a clear answer to his questions in a language that was easier for him to understand, it's not going to keep me up nights browsing through a post or two in a language I can't comprehend, even if A.org is an English based forums.

If the fellow got his questions answered, that's good as gold to me.  Life is too short to get pissy about some guy posting in Finnish :)
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: MicroStrand on August 12, 2013, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Duce;744420
Sort of overblowing things regarding semantics about languages. If the fellow got his questions answered, that's good as gold to me.  Life is too short to get pissy about some guy posting in Finnish :)
You're wrong, it is primarily a matter of courtesy to respect the official language of the forum, no matter what language he speaks. Why should the majority of readers be plagued with translations, just because he's obviously too lazy to do it by himself?
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Ni72ous on August 12, 2013, 11:58:15 AM
It did not bother me to much about the reply being in the op's native tongue, but out of interest i put the reply through a translator and parts make no sense, so next time i won't bother and will just skip that particular post, so i can understand why it annoy's some people as they can't understand it with or without a translator.
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: gertsy on August 12, 2013, 03:07:03 PM
Revenir sur le sujet?

Not sure about that one, but I have one of these and it works beautifully on HDMI:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/310620740857?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_6693wt_1040&clk_rvr_id=478495447823&clk_rvr_id=509529024898

Have a look at this thread for more info: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64634&highlight=15khz+scart+hdmi&page=3
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Thorham on August 12, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: MicroStrand;744426
just because he's obviously too lazy to do it themselves?
Exactly, although they should have written the reply in English from the get go ;)

Quote from: Nitrous;744431
so i can understand why it annoy's some people as they can't understand it with or without a translator.
It isn't really about that. It's about the fact that people make non-English posts (while they  and the OP both know English!) in an English forum. It makes about as much sense as me posting in Dutch on a Turkish forum.
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: arttu80 on August 12, 2013, 03:59:47 PM
Quote from: utri007;744347
Hyvä Arttu, osta Amigakitistä oikeanlainen SCART kaapeli ja kytke se ihan tavalliseen lituska TV:hen, saat hyvän välkkymättömän 640x512 kuvan.


Moi!

Kylläpä porukka kävi kuumana kun suomeksi vastasit, huh! ;) Well, thanks anyway for reply. It was really very nice of you.

I actually have made myself one quality SCART cable and I do have enough flat Tv's for that. THE problem of current situation is that I DON'T want any TV's or old RGB monitors on my crowded table. I do have Amiga w/ Indivision AGA in it, so that's no prob either. What I'm really after is really nice quality picture solution with given equipment. I mean, when I dig out ANY Amiga -model I like to play with, I need it to be able to connect to this PC marvel. ;)

Actually,

Quote from: amiman99;744347
You could get one of the RGB to Svideo converters, it should give you good picture quality. On the bottom of his page.
http://kipper2k.com/amigaforsale/


I need to try something like this, but would be very tempting to order other of his nice stuff... Thank you guys!

Or maybe this;

Quote from: gertsy;744347
Revenir sur le sujet?

Not sure about that one, but I have one of these and it works beautifully on HDMI:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/310620740...d=509529024898


Anyway, it's cool so many people responded to this, but even more astonishing is this hot reaction about native language use. Understanably so many are against use of native language.
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on August 12, 2013, 06:20:10 PM
The best way to connect an Amiga to a modern monitor is with an Indivision, IMHO.  ;)

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=82
Title: Re: Connecting Amiga to All-In-One PC
Post by: motrucker on August 12, 2013, 06:58:06 PM
Those new HP "all in one" abominations Don't have a very good display however. I guess the OP can indeed save space. I wish him all the luck in the world....